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University of Idaho Bans All Alternatives to Evolution
Discovery Institute ^ | 10/06/05 | John MIller

Posted on 10/07/2005 7:35:38 AM PDT by Sopater

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The UI President's letter can be found here: Letter to the University of Idaho Faculty, Staff and Students

This amounts to censorship and unreasonable restrictions in science as the pursuit of knowledge. To exclusively promote one philosophical world view over all others and call it science is shameful and indefensible in my humble opinion. I strongly suggest that no philosophies be taught in science as "fact". All of the evidence supports the truth and truth is what science seeks to find, regardless of any worldview.

1 posted on 10/07/2005 7:35:38 AM PDT by Sopater
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To: Sopater

censorship is alive and well and living at a university near you.


2 posted on 10/07/2005 7:36:49 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: Sopater

Creationism has its evidence as well.


3 posted on 10/07/2005 7:37:32 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I'm really BagdadBob under the witness protection program.)
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To: Sopater

You say Idaho I say WhoDaHo.


4 posted on 10/07/2005 7:38:02 AM PDT by JustAnotherOkie
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To: Sopater

Tax-funded academic and intellectual freedoms at work....[/sarcasm]


5 posted on 10/07/2005 7:38:32 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The answers are out there; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions)
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To: Sopater
A state government official banning certain kinds of speech.

Interesting.

6 posted on 10/07/2005 7:40:43 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: bobbdobbs

You mean they AREN'T?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?..........


8 posted on 10/07/2005 7:43:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (In life, you don't get what you deserve. You get what you settle for...........)
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To: camle

Just where I would imagine finding censorship, too.


9 posted on 10/07/2005 7:43:59 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Sopater

The theory of evolution is not incompatible with the theory of "intelligent Design".

In fact, neither one could work without the other. Otherwise we should all be microbes, single-celled creatures, and we wouldn't even be HAVING this conversation.


10 posted on 10/07/2005 7:44:03 AM PDT by alloysteel ("Master of the painfully obvious.....")
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To: bobbdobbs; camle
>censorship is alive and well and living at a university near you.

>Yes! Bring back the stork theory of human baby delivery to biology class!

No, BAN THE STORK!

11 posted on 10/07/2005 7:45:19 AM PDT by MarineBrat (When it rains, New Orleans makes its own gravy.)
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To: MarineBrat
wanna pay him unemployment?


12 posted on 10/07/2005 7:47:30 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: Sopater

Please, I don't want to start a brawl or anything, but what sort of *scientific* response does "intelligent design" offer when confronted with the question, "what created the designer?"


13 posted on 10/07/2005 7:48:59 AM PDT by zook
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To: Sopater

Dogma pretending to be academic freedom and value free science.


14 posted on 10/07/2005 7:50:11 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: zook
Please, I don't want to start a brawl or anything, but what sort of *scientific* response does "intelligent design" offer when confronted with the question, "what created the designer?"

Well, the point is that U of I has banned such discussions. How are answers to question like yours to be answered if universities ban the discussion of such concepts?

15 posted on 10/07/2005 7:52:23 AM PDT by L98Fiero
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To: Sopater

but, it seems the more things are banned, the more attention they attract


16 posted on 10/07/2005 7:53:06 AM PDT by RunnerMom
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To: camle

"censorship is alive and well and living at a university near you."


I agree it is heavy handed but it's not censorship any more than if e said the physics department was only to teach that matter is made of atoms and that atoms are made protons, neutron and electrons.

There are problems with atomic theory too but it is the best current scientific thinking - and that is what should be taught in science class.

Now, I'm a Christian and I believe in intelligent design, i.e. God acting through evolution but God has not left proof. He wants faith. That is not science and should not be taught in science class.


17 posted on 10/07/2005 7:54:10 AM PDT by gondramB (Conservatism is a positive doctrine. Reactionaryism is a negative doctrine.)
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To: L98Fiero

Well, the point for me is that while intelligent design may be a great topic for a philosophy course, it might have no place in a science course, if it can't offer a scientific response to the question of how the "intelligence" came to be.


18 posted on 10/07/2005 7:56:03 AM PDT by zook
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To: gondramB

so... if i get your reply (thank you btw), you are infavor of teaching people that the only way things happenned was by a manner that you beleive is incorrect.

so you advocate teaching falsehoods?


19 posted on 10/07/2005 7:56:10 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: Sopater
I'm a bit confused. Why was this necessary? Are there science professors there teaching creationism? Or is this just being done to make a point?

There are some rather strange theories taught under the aegis of such "disciplines" as women's studies, but no such prohibitions in those areas seem to be forthcoming.

20 posted on 10/07/2005 7:57:16 AM PDT by B Knotts
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