Posted on 10/06/2005 7:04:45 PM PDT by george76
A grandfather hiking a trail...with his 4-year-old grandson was attacked yesterday by a coyote, but saved the youngster by grappling with the animal as it continued to bite him.
Arthur Cole, 76, was attacked...by a 40-pound gray coyote, according to police. He was bitten several times but his injuries were not life-threatening.
His grandson, Nicholas, escaped unhurt and ran the half-mile to his grandparents' house...
When Arthur's wife and Nicholas' dad asked, "Where's Grampy?" the youngster replied, "A wolf got him," ...
Peter Cole, who was visiting his parents, jumped into his truck, drove to the development's community center and ran down the trail. "I was yelling for my father. He yelled to me, and he was lying on top of the coyote," ... "I tried to kill it, but there was nothing I could really do."
Peter called 911 on his cell phone and police and firefighters arrived.
"We got there and found the guy on top of the animal," firefighter Jamie Desautels said. "The guy basically saved his grandson."
Firefighters used a snare to restrain the female coyote, which continued to bite Cole...
Police then killed the coyote. "We basically choked the animal to death," Police Sgt. James Bruce said.
"The coyote attacked Arthur from behind," ...
"There was a struggle," Dave Cole said. "It went away and came back, and leaped for his neck."
...the cause of the attack is undetermined, but it was unprovoked. The female coyote may have been protecting her pups...
Bruce said residents in the housing development were being notified by the community center at the complex.
He cautioned residents to be aware and alert while walking near woods. Police don't know if there are other coyotes in the area...
(Excerpt) Read more at metrowestdailynews.com ...
So...rather than squirt a mist of almost anything, you opted for solid contact, and with all the weight you could suddenly employ. Now kiddies, sap gloves have powdered lead knuckles, and are a great way of seeing to it that you don't drop your brass knuckles while, say...skating...and acting brief scenes of West Side Story with your "play-date" peers on the street...between Barney songs....
...and speaking of famous theatrical entertainment....an ASP is essentially a snapped-off 40's-'50's car antenna....that if you don't turn into a .22 "zip gun," makes a dandy telescoping steel-ball horsewhip, for hopefully long enough.
You get real stuff when you're older.
Dear apackof2 -
Squantos advises you to carry a rope with a rock on the end.
He's a technikcal expert, if ya' haven't noticed.
Oh yes, and be a real good cowboy too.
Sounds like a plan.
I used to shoot them bastards out back of the barns at the old farm up here. After a snowfall, I was amazed at the numbers of tracks that crisscrossed the fields SW of Portland.
Nam Vet
Naturally there was some betting amd I picked my roomie who was Apache/Mex from south AZ. We won the meat contest with bolas getting one rabbit and one duck. The duck cost me a baptism but it was worth it.
Pic is from 1982 near Cibola AZ (north of Yuma) doing some desert traning. You may have know Tony T. on the right, he was a legend in CCT and a real life MacGuyver. He passed away a few years ago down at Hurbie, brain cancer. Damn shame. 
Ddin't know Tony or too many CCT sorts. Just the PJ's before they linked in special tactics squadrons etc ...
I like the "Bolas" as an improvised survival tool as well as the sling shot using the tounge of my boot and laces.... I got to be pretty good with that at Ft Sherman's jungle school....
"There was a struggle," Dave Cole said. "It went away and came back, and leaped for his neck." ...the cause of the attack is undetermined, but it was unprovoked. The female coyote may have been protecting her pups...
They are trying to rationalize the behavior of the wild animal. There may even be an explanation. But protecting her pups or not, she attacked, and returned for a second bite. The grandfather was brave and lucky. Good thing they seemed convinced the attack was unprovoked by the humans or Grandpa would be facing some questions.
Dear Muttley
"Speak softly and carry a big bola" ....One of T.R's lesser known sayings
And much thanks for the information on personal arsenal preferences, however it’s the barometric-induced common migraine that has laid me low these past days.....just another reason to move to the mountains.... some day, some day soon
Sounds like a classic season-change "healing crisis." The body empties the trash before the coming ice age season, when you'll need all the health you can muster. Sinuses drain, lots of unpleasant things.
Allergies?
Maybe you're allergic to weather reports.
Muttly fix.
...for example, Muttly allergic to not having any more baloney sammiches.
He fix.
Yes allergies they tell me
So combine that with high barometric rainy front and its makes for hard as rock muscles, snuffed sinus and throbbing headache which cause me to retreat to the bat cave where no sound or light can penetrate...at least until my chiro and masseuse help me make a come back to the land of the living
I do hate that when it happens……… as my canine is denied her walk (me too).......GRrrrrr
Speaking of canines, no self-respecting canine would do baloney!
Now a nice T-bone is different.......and the meat is good too!
Me even help. Get rid of nasty T-bone with bone before you even cook it. Me eat right away. Feeding Muttly good for the soul...and everything else too.
All part of the Muttly service.
I hope that helped.
Muttly's soul or mine? ;>)
All part of the Muttly service.
And so altruistic too!
LOL
Yes, Muttly all true-istic, evidently.
Late last night, Muttly thinking about apackof, and that perhaps muttly-mob has not been clear on what apacka should carry in the muttly-eating woods.
.357 revolver. You are most likely to come across a rattlesnake. Only revolvers and single shots use snakeshot...a little shotgun shell you can get. Then after the first or second round, the solid stuff for the other likely threats....dogs, rabid thingies, predatory peoples, mountain lions, bears...the bears being the hardest to stop, or dissuade, for sure, and by a very large measure....so large that while the .357 can handle most other attacks, (though on the wimpy side for the snakes, btw) it is pretty anemic when hammering a bear off of your face.
But, let's face what is likely to be done...will you really be carrying a big and heavy handgun in a fanny pack every single day of your wild daisy-picking forays into the butterfly woods.....as we grizzled old "been there" types make ourselves do...just to relax out there, later...? You should...but will you? So, the .357 is available in aluminum (scandium) and with shorter barrels, even hammerless. It is borderline effective, but you will carry it. Longer gets more juice out of the bullet..it goes faster. To be the real deal, do it all, bar none, do LESS shooting to get it done, and with only a somewhat larger package...the scandium S&W PD series .44 magnum...which also shoots the "Won the West" .44 Special Cowboy Gun round....is the absolute carry always, shoot a little choice, which I think is what we're talking about.
Now, the smallest, most effective close range last ditch all purpose snake-killin'est, hide in the pocket, if it hits, it stomps instrument is the Bond arms .45 Colt/.410 shotgun shell DERRINGER.
http://www.bondarms.com/
Only thing is, it kicks like the .44 Mag. in a light little gun...but outside, when you're dying all of a sudden...you'll wish you had a cannon. Honestly, you couldn't care less about the noise and muzzle-rise when you absolutely HAVE to get the job done. But hey, for a first gun, you will get more use and enjoyment out of a good .357 than anything else, and it is an excellent "personal defense" handgun for every other "in civilization" purpose, along with all the 9mms and such...only it can take a step up and fire a brick if you want it too.
Gives Muttly a cozy feeling.
He needs that.
"What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about?"
Well, relax. A lifetime of concentrated Muttly research and observation has conclusively proved without the slightest particle of doubt that "doing the Hokey Pokey" IS "what it's all about."
As long as you shimmy to the left and shimmy to the right enough, every single day.
From another thread today.......:
"Failing to comply with the officer’s verbal commands, the suspect came at Officer Lyons with a machete," Holliday said.
Lyons fired his 9mm Glock sidearm several times, Holliday said, with an undetermined number of rounds striking Sanchez. Sanchez was taken to UT Medical Center, where he died about 1:40 p.m."
The 9mm is a .38. The .357 is a .38 with vitamins.
Although it go Boom, the bark is often much more impressive than the bite....BITE being what gets YOU to go home, and hopefully NOT die some hours later. Hunters know that the .357 "kills differently" than the .44....meaning...."it may take some time."
No free lunch...so I included the Derringer option in a potent cartridge for you. If you end up with a 686 .357, you could load real handgun hunting rounds in the final chambers, and really have some "stop" in there....but again........."it may take some time" on a big or tough opponent.
Also handy to have more than 2 rounds ready, or if snakeshot loaded, ONE real cartridge with which to try to seriously HIT whatever must be shot. .357 is the most common, and all-purpose choice.
Much to Muttly's dismay....rare is the truly "free" lunch. Even a stolen baloney sammich often costs one the calories to run away. Handy gun, weak gun. Heavy gun, real gun. Why eat a baloney sammich in such a way that you need another baloney sammich just to eat the first one....oh....me forgot...because then you get TWO baloney sammiches. Some of us just like to shoot a lot, and want 6 or more tries at the target. Some of us want only ONE baloney sammich....but a very big and satisfying one, with as little running around as possible.
It is The Baloney Sammich philosophy of Life.
Don't become someone else's baloney sammich, so that you can go home and make someone else YOUR baloney sammich.
'Works for me.
Oh this is truly all true-istic. Deserves a T-Bone
But, let's face what is likely to be done...will you really be carrying a big and heavy handgun in a fanny pack every single day of your wild daisy-picking forays into the butterfly woods.....as we grizzled old "been there" types make ourselves do...just to relax out there, later...? You should...but will you?
Muttly is smart too....will I?
This may do the trick....carry a lot, shoot little
SMITH AND WESSON MODEL 329PD REVOLVER
Caliber: .44 Magnum®/.44 S&W Special
Capacity: 6 Rounds
Barrel Length: 4"
Front Sight: "Light Gathering" HIVIZ® Orange Dot
Rear Sight: Adjustable V-Notch
Firing System: N/A
Grip: Ahrends Finger Groove Wood & Hogue Sq. Butt Rubber
Trigger: N/A
Hammer: N/A
External Safety: N/A
Frame: Large
Finish: Matte Black
Overall length: 9-1/2"
Material: Scandium Frame, Stainless Steel Barrel, Titanium Cylinder
Weight Empty: 26 ounces
With 300 gr. Factory loaded ammo or Winchester’s Supreme 250 gr. Nosier Partition Gold Bullet
But it does kick………However when you only have 2 choices…….showing up on the Grizzly lunch menu or potential fractured arm…the choice is pretty clear
(Oh I can have.357 too)
Gives Muttly a cozy feeling.
He needs that.
apackof2 needs that too, a cozy feeling
LOL,
Also Right foot in and out is more important than left
WOW!
You are one special packette! What a totally right decision. I was having trouble resigning myself to your being one more .357-armed dreamer out in the muttly-devouring woods, thinking she was effectively armed because it go boom, and has "Magnum" printed on it.
Now, up until the .44Mag, it WAS the most powerful handgun around...but...no longer a first choice, especially when things bite and claw...and eat.
Squantos has been "testing" (trying to blow up) his beloved 329PD, and if he "can't" do it, neither will you. In a LIFE-threatening situation, you will have all the strength you need to force that muzzle down again and will that bullet right where you want it to go. Try to practice outside as much as possible, and not near any reflecting walls, cars, etc., so the deep sound doesn't come back at you. It will not in the field, and you won't care then anyway. People have fired magnum rifles until empty -- under stress -- and reported that they didn't even hear it go off. I use ear plugs AND muffs, so practice is easy for me. It's like hearing through a pillow. Shoot all day. I always crank a few without hearing protection, even glasses, just to stay in touch with the reality, for later. Don't want to go thinking one NEEDS protection from the horrible cannon.
When you see how well it performs, close up, and at VERY long range, and how versatile in loading it can be....it's love. It really is. This thing is a trriumph of design and manufacture...and all fitted to the human operator...ergonomic....and allows you to perform literally super-human work. In earlier times, one of these would have ruled the world....with enough ammo! Consider a truly survival scenario. Folks with 9mms will have to get mighty close to their opponents in order to do them much supressive harm. The individual with a good .44 magnum could punch a hole in their car at 500 yards...5 football fields. Cozy. Muttly like.
A 4" barrel holds things down well too, and pushes the activity farther away from you. A 6" is a joy. Laser-grips are available, and a lot of useful practice fun...and just great in the dark of night, when Yogi likes to visit, and have his own way.
CCI makes SHOT cartridges, which you will want to load in there first, perhaps second too. They trample rattlesnakes extremely well, and are a lot of fun to shoot. I shot a quail with a 2".38 with CCIs. It was injured so I had to...and it worked. The .44 and .45Colt versions could actually hunt small game for the camp, if one had to, in order to eat. It is great for rodent control too, as there are no bullets flying around. A friend used one from his 6" SAA a couple of months ago in his cabin, when a bat flew into the side of his head while he was reading late at night. He felt sorry and stupid afterward, but it frightened him half to death, and he didn't hesitate to unleash the tiny birdshot in the direction of his walls, and vehicles outside. A Speedloader can be used for rather sudden reloading. I'll try to find the link to Jerry Michulek's record-breaking use of a S&W revolver for you. Once you see it, you will "know." Like a machinegun, reload, do it again. Amazing.
You will find, as I do, that the .44 Specials around today have quite ample power for everything up to the biggest and toughest, and a real pleasure to use. A very weak version of it was the actual cartridge which "won the west," the .44 Russian. Buffalo Bill used one. The list goes on. The .44 Henry lever action rifle had a 200gr. bullet @1000 fps. Your Specials do that easily, and even with jacketed bullets. It is a famous "manstopper," so you are properly covered for personal defense against criminal attack, and not just carrying "too much gun." It is exactly the RIGHT gun...just load it intelligently, and you can rely on it more than virtually anything else. It is a hand-rifle too...no problem hitting hard at 300 yards. Quite amazing.
Elmer Kieth, its inventor, shot an elk freehand at over 500 yards with a 4" 29. He dropped it, too, with a witness.
Now, you will get nothing like a broken arm. It rises up, not really back much. You'll get used to it. By the time it rises, the bullet is well clear of the gun, and on its way to where you sent it. If the gun does prove too light though...Muttly SOP is to hang a flashlight under the barrel...something Muttlys always want to do with everything, anyway. Night is the worst, and I would rather see my target well before the first shot than by the flash of the first shot, if there is a choice. Do NOT (regardless of what the salesman says) get a "Ported muzzle." It DOES keep the barrel down, but does so by sending flames, hot gasses, perhaps lead, burning granules of powder, and lots of noise up at you...where your face lives, if you find yourself shooting from the hip, as one may under mortal pressure. You will learn the Bill Jordan "speed rock" method of waist-level defensive fire. It is great. Anyway, you will never want to give up your 329. It's a real triumph.
Me feel better now.
"Also Right foot in and out is more important than left"
I noticed that too one day...OK...yesterday...while doing the Monkey Doodle Doo. It is probably important for doing The Freddy, as well as The Mouse....but i will have to conduct further experiments on that to be sure.
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