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Breaking America's grip on the net (US FORCED to give up control of the Internet?)
http://technology.guardian.co.uk/weekly/story/0,16376,1585288,00.html ^ | October 6, 2005 | Kieren McCarthy

Posted on 10/06/2005 5:55:46 PM PDT by Blogger

Breaking America's grip on the net

After troubled negotiations in Geneva, the US may be forced to relinquish control of the internet to a coalition of governments

Kieren McCarthy Thursday October 6, 2005 The Guardian

You would expect an announcement that would forever change the face of the internet to be a grand affair - a big stage, spotlights, media scrums and a charismatic frontman working the crowd. But unless you knew where he was sitting, all you got was David Hendon's slightly apprehensive voice through a beige plastic earbox. The words were calm, measured and unexciting, but their implications will be felt for generations to come.

Hendon is the Department for Trade and Industry's director of business relations and was in Geneva representing the UK government and European Union at the third and final preparatory meeting for next month's World Summit on the Information Society. He had just announced a political coup over the running of the internet.

Old allies in world politics, representatives from the UK and US sat just feet away from each other, but all looked straight ahead as Hendon explained the EU had decided to end the US government's unilateral control of the internet and put in place a new body that would now run this revolutionary communications medium.

The issue of who should control the net had proved an extremely divisive issue, and for 11 days the world's governments traded blows. For the vast majority of people who use the internet, the only real concern is getting on it. But with the internet now essential to countries' basic infrastructure - Brazil relies on it for 90% of its tax collection - the question of who has control has become critical.

And the unwelcome answer for many is that it is the US government. In the early days, an enlightened Department of Commerce (DoC) pushed and funded expansion of the internet. And when it became global, it created a private company, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (Icann) to run it.

But the DoC retained overall control, and in June stated what many had always feared: that it would retain indefinite control of the internet's foundation - its "root servers", which act as the basic directory for the whole internet.

A number of countries represented in Geneva, including Brazil, China, Cuba, Iran and several African states, insisted the US give up control, but it refused. The meeting "was going nowhere", Hendon says, and so the EU took a bold step and proposed two stark changes: a new forum that would decide public policy, and a "cooperation model" comprising governments that would be in overall charge.

Much to the distress of the US, the idea proved popular. Its representative hit back, stating that it "can't in any way allow any changes" that went against the "historic role" of the US in controlling the top level of the internet.

But the refusal to budge only strengthened opposition, and now the world's governments are expected to agree a deal to award themselves ultimate control. It will be officially raised at a UN summit of world leaders next month and, faced with international consensus, there is little the US government can do but acquiesce.

But will this move mean, as the US ambassador David Gross argued, that "even on technical details, the industry will have to follow government-set policies, UN-set policies"?

No, according to Nitin Desai, the UN's special adviser on internet governance. "There is clearly an acceptance here that governments are not concerned with the technical and operational management of the internet. Standards are set by the users."

Hendon is also adamant: "The really important point is that the EU doesn't want to see this change as bringing new government control over the internet. Governments will only be involved where they need to be and only on issues setting the top-level framework."

Human rights

But expert and author of Ruling the Root, Milton Mueller, is not so sure. An overseeing council "could interfere with standards. What would stop it saying 'when you're making this standard for data transfer you have to include some kind of surveillance for law enforcement'?"

Then there is human rights. China has attracted criticism for filtering content from the net within its borders. Tunisia - host of the World Summit - has also come under attack for silencing online voices. Mueller doesn't see a governmental overseeing council having any impact: "What human rights groups want is for someone to be able to bring some kind of enforceable claim to stop them violating people's rights. But how's that going to happen? I can't see that a council is going to be able to improve the human rights situation."

And what about business? Will a governmental body running the internet add unnecessary bureaucracy or will it bring clarity and a coherent system? Mueller is unsure: "The idea of the council is so vague. It's not clear to me that governments know what to do about anything at this stage apart from get in the way of things that other people do."

There are still dozens of unanswered questions but all the answers are pointing the same way: international governments deciding the internet's future. The internet will never be the same again.


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KEYWORDS: davos; globalism; internet; oneworld; rootservers; soros; sovereignty; un; us
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Buh bye sovereignty.
1 posted on 10/06/2005 5:55:49 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger

If they don't like the way we run it, why don't they build their own?


2 posted on 10/06/2005 5:58:02 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Blogger

WHY do we have to "acquiesce"?


3 posted on 10/06/2005 5:58:35 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Must I use a sarcasm tag?)
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"Breaking America's grip on the net"

They wish.


4 posted on 10/06/2005 5:59:34 PM PDT by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: decal

What are they going to do if the US simply says "NO"

The US has the deed and the keys to the house, weenies.


5 posted on 10/06/2005 6:02:08 PM PDT by coydog (My bathroom djinn can beat up your bathroom djinn!)
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To: Blogger

$$$ Ca-Ching!! $$$


6 posted on 10/06/2005 6:03:11 PM PDT by Chuckster (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset)
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To: DuncanWaring

I think American's would stop using it and invent something else and not share it.


7 posted on 10/06/2005 6:03:43 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger

Any American representative who is stupid enough to attempt to make any agreement diluting American control over the internet will be quickly ID'd and trashed accordingly, right along with any of the other crapweasels in Washington who want to sign on.


8 posted on 10/06/2005 6:03:57 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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They can start their own internet and control it any way they want.
9 posted on 10/06/2005 6:03:57 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis (How do we prevent someone from torching his city if he will be rewarded as a lottery winner?)
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I sometimes wonder where we would be today if we stopped doing nice things for the rest of the world and started to focus on problems at home. It has become painfully obvious that we are just another "resource" the rest of the world uses whenever they need money, or a friend when it becomes necessary.

I'm afraid that if I had control of the Internet, I would unplug it to everyone outside of the United States and tell the ungrateful bastards to either start appreciating what America and Americans have done for the world, or just shut up.

But first, I would close down the U.N. headquarters, turn it into cheap housing for those in need, and make sure each and every last foreign diplomat is escorted to an airplane on it's way out of the country.

It's time to start working with individual countries on our own. Enough of this "one world government" garbage.

10 posted on 10/06/2005 6:04:44 PM PDT by SaveTheChief ("I can't wait until I'm old enough to feel ways about stuff." - Phillip J. Fry)
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But the refusal to budge only strengthened opposition, and now the world's governments are expected to agree a deal to award themselves ultimate control. It will be officially raised at a UN summit of world leaders next month and, faced with international consensus, there is little the US government can do but acquiesce.

Absolutely false. Anyone who wants to can set up a root server, and that's always been the case. There have actually been previous attempts to do just that. All have failed. It's not a matter of law. It's not even a technical issue. It's a social one. You can't force anyone to use any particular root server. Each internet user has the power to use whatever root servers he or she prefers (although few know anything about this, or how to do it.)

So this dispute will be decided by the market.

11 posted on 10/06/2005 6:06:06 PM PDT by sourcery (Givernment: The way the average voter spells "government.")
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It will be officially raised at a UN summit of world leaders next month and, faced with international consensus, there is little the US government can do but acquiesce.

The Guardian hippies are high again. This is the cybernetic equivalent of Kyoto.

12 posted on 10/06/2005 6:06:47 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
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...Hendon explained the EU had decided to end the US government's unilateral control of the internet...

And HOW, pray tell, did the EU get the authority to end our control over a system WE built?

MM

13 posted on 10/06/2005 6:06:59 PM PDT by MississippiMan (Behold now behemoth...he moves his tail like a cedar. Job 40:17)
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Hendon is the Department for Trade and Industry's director of business relations and was in Geneva representing the UK government

Hendon is also adamant: "The really important point is that the EU doesn't want to see this change as bringing new government control over the internet. Governments will only be involved where they need to be and only on issues setting the top-level framework."

Mr Hendon and the rest of the EU are fools, and the people in the EU will live to regret what their leaders foolish attitude, based on envy of the U.S., brings down on them.

The internet, untrammelled by government's and politicians is one of the greated modern forces for freedom. The EU is now going to allow tyrants to start setting back the clock to the 1950s and before. The United States really will become that one shining beacon on the hill, where all who yearn to be free will long to be allowed to go.

The U.N. must now become dead to the U.S.

14 posted on 10/06/2005 6:09:36 PM PDT by Wuli
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We invented it. We have been kind enough to share it with the world. If they don't like it, we can snip the connections outside of the US. The 3rd world $hitholes can use what is left as they see fit.
15 posted on 10/06/2005 6:12:34 PM PDT by Myrddin
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Hey France! I got Yer root right here!


16 posted on 10/06/2005 6:13:25 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 900 knives and counting!)
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i don't get what they are going to do. the EU is going to make their own internet, set up their own internet?

where are they going to get the cash for THAT, considering universal health care, rooms with vews, guaranteed college tuition, and twenty five dollar pizzas?

17 posted on 10/06/2005 6:13:29 PM PDT by wildwood
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This is bad but....

Maybe it will get John Q. Public worked up enough to get off of his a$$ and out the door, down to his local Representative.

In the end, I think it's going to come down to "people in the street", shutting things down until we get our elected deadbeats to start protecting us.

They don't seem to be willing to do it on their own!

18 posted on 10/06/2005 6:13:59 PM PDT by airborne (My hero - my nephew! Sean is home! Thank you God!)
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To: MississippiMan; Politicalmom; Blogger

I am no expert in this field, however...
Large systems like the internet are invariably covered by a blizzard of patents on the software, hardware, etc.
As owners of these patents, we can decide to license users, at considerable revenues to us- remember microsoft- or we may elect not to.
My guess is that this is the first salvo in a game to pressure us to relinquish our rights in this system to "world control". We would be idiots to give it away. I think 60 billion per year from each user country sounds about right.


19 posted on 10/06/2005 6:14:42 PM PDT by pickrell (Old dog, new trick...sort of)
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To: Blogger

I hate it when the media talks so generally about a subject ("control over the internet"). Are they talking about control over the '.com' root?


20 posted on 10/06/2005 6:15:12 PM PDT by cyberdasher
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