Posted on 10/06/2005 11:07:41 AM PDT by kcvl
Per Fox News...
I've been thinking about Deepak's remarks all during this discussion. The man from Current Affair who found and interviewed Joran in Holland remarked on how Joran thought everything was Natalee's fault; he couldn't see that he bore any responsibility for what he did. The interviewer said that he's seen that type of thought process before in sociopaths. But this type of discussion enables the sociopaths among us. It saddens me that Freepers may be counted among those who enable these criminals.
The Sexual Peversion that is slathered all over the Internet and TV gives some men who are a bit tweaked in the first [place just enough edge to put them over the top.
And girls who want to act like Paris Hilton in a Burger Commercial are asking for trouble when they come across these guys.
Geez: The Sexual Peversion on the Internet is affecting grown adult men in decent marraiges let alone the kids view of it.
I hope God grants her family peace.
I'm tired of all these animals preying on young people.
I hope justice is swift and sure. I hope punishment is swift and final.
Ben Fawley made in his "line_nowhere" Livejournal. Fawley is posting from a computer apparently 6 hours ahead of the rest of the eastern seaboard. See a screen cap made by Dan Riehl here. I had to wonder about the music Fawley said he was listening to in that Livejournal entry -- "C:= Zeromancer - 1 800 Suicide~ "
when there is good news I will post it. For now I will not comment more. I will thank my friends for their support. I also thank my friends from not making any comments to the press even though they dislike the false reports in the media and the ridiculous crud on line. C:=
C:= Do not pay to see my photography work @ www.vegporn.com get it free. All of the photos www.vegporn.com is using that are my work are avalible for free. DO NOT PAY VEGPORN for theft of my copyright or my work. Send me a postage paid, self addressed CD mailer and I will send you a copy of the original photos on CDR. All the photos are posted on WinMx free to download 24/7 anywhere in the world, and I have them posted in an account @ www.deviantart.com as well. This is my work, I hold the copyright. www.vegporn.com (Veg Porn) has claimed coyrights to my work due to a psycho girl who got mad when I walked away from her lies. Do not pay to see my work on Veg Porn. Also other phgotos and images from Veg Porn are also up on WinMx for free. Since Veg Porn used my work to destroy and harm my web site I am helping others who are providing Veg Porn content by telling all where to find it. Unlike Veg Porn I am not using the work of others without permission or credit. I will however note that almost all of Veg Porn's content can be found on WinMx for free so do not pay for it. C:=
http://www.livejournal.com/users/line_nowhere/
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:TDhpBeUcCcUJ:websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D30040+fawley+bones&hl=en&client=firefox-a
Recap from WS:
Items to look for and seize:
Womens clothing:
Blue jeans
Black hoodie sweatshirt
Black cargo shorts
Yellow t-shirt
Womens running shoes
Womens jewelry to include:
St. Francis medallion and necklace
Silver colored motorcycle chain link necklace
Watch with black band
Bracelets
Fawleys or mens clothing with dirt, mud and grass
VCU student ID cards including one belonging to Taylor Behl
Cellular phones including Taylor Behls Nokia brand camera phone with a T-Mobile acct
Vehicle license plates
Linoleum knives
Hammers
Shovels
Prybars
Screwdrivers and any other burglary tool
$20 bills
keys
keyrings incl, Taylor Behls keyring
vehicle keys incl Honda Civic
Pepperidge Farm cookie boxes
Items actually seized
List compiled by Det Jeffrey Dwyer
Skateboards (5)
Videotapes from garbage can outside
Black gym bag with spike bracelets
Blue sleeping bag
Clothing
Soft pillows
Plastic laundry hamper with clothes
Metal toolbox with tools
Plastic bin with photographs
Large plastic bag with clothing
Plastic boxes (2) with floppy discs
Bag of clothing and shoes
Laptop computer
DVDs
Blue pants
Rolls of tape
Towels
Mail and documents
Digital camera
Computer cds
Dildos (2)
Photo albums (4)
Knife
Keys
Bags of clothes from garbage cans outside (2)
Cell phones (3)
Hard drives (2)
Tissue and tampon wrappers
Hairbrushes (3)
Toothbrushes (3)
Razors (2)
Beaded necklace with cross in supercan outside
Bicycle chain necklace
Watch from supercan outside
35 mm camera
box of bones
IDs
Digital recorders
Rolls of film
Black brassiere
Photocopies of IDs
Machete
Chains and straps
Cigarette butts (2)
Cutting of reddish brown stain from box spring
Notepad with handwriting
Yearbook
White panties
Audiocassette
Videotape
Cartridge (32 caliber)
Hard drives (3) collected/retained by Deem
One floppy disc collected/retained by Deem
Macintosh computer collected/retained by Deem
Collected by sgt Preuss outside in garbage can and turned over to Tyler
Photos
Documents
Checkbook
Empty Rx bottle
Hatchet/hammer
Pry bar
White shirt
3 pair underwear
1-15 items taken by FBI
1-10 vacuumings
11.fitted bed sheet gray
12.fitted bed sheet black
13.futon cover, bra and hat
14.vacuum cleaner bag
15.black cargo shorts from ben fawley
all from this link:
http://www.tvstats.com/wwbt/news/view_story.cfm?newsItemID=2959&window=true
Friend of Missing Student Reported Being Abducted, written by Post staff writer Jamie Stockwell:
The photographer, Benjamin Fawley, said in the Sept. 6 police report that he was walking in an alley near the downtown campus when he was "struck in the stomach" and "pushed to the ground by someone who put a bag over his head."
Fawley said he was put into a vehicle and driven to an unknown area, where he was "pushed out . . . onto a dirt road," the report said. He was unable to provide more specific information about the attack, and the officer who took the information wrote in the report that he was able to determine that Fawley "should be on medication for bipolar disorder and . . . was intoxicated" before the alleged abduction and robbery.
"It is my belief that the victim was attacked, but due to his mental state, getting any other relevant information is going to prove to be very difficult," the officer wrote(...)
In a Web log entry posted at 2:46 a.m. Sept. 8, Fawley wrote about both attacks. He wrote that the "sun hadn't been up long" when he was accosted two days earlier, although he stated in the police report that it occurred at 5 a.m., which on that morning was nearly two hours before dawn. He also wrote that he suspected that an ex-girlfriend was responsible.
Behl, who was having a romantic relationship with Fawley, according to his attorney and her family, is not mentioned in the blog entry...
Oh I am sure more info is going to come out about thia case as well as this psychotic individual.
How someone 17 is with a guy 38 is insane and know one knows about it.
Nodding and agreeing with all your statements. I have a daughter away at college for the first time. I was a stay at home mom, I was strict, and I taught her the dangers of the world until her eyes rolled to the back of her head. She's a good kid, and I pray everyday some nutcase doesn't target her, or she doesn't place her trust in the wrong person. Teens and young adults tend to see everybody their age as their 'friend', especially if they see them around a lot. I think that's where Natalie Holloway went wrong. She probably thought evil would be older and more identifiable.
Yeah, I know she's not a perky little college student, but dammit, her life is as equally precious as Natalie's, and Taylor's. May they all rest in peace...
Could you try and repost that pic of Monica? It shows up as the dreaded red X.
Happy 21st Birthday Michael Jordan Cino!!!!
OXOXO
~Taylor Behl
http://www.livejournal.com/users/tiabliaj/7620.html
Taylor Behl wishes a former roommate of Fawley's, Cino, a happy 21st birthday here, in her Livejournal. An ex-girlfriend of Fawley's I referred to in an earlier entry was only 19 when they met. This was the same girlfriend who had to file assault charges against Fawley in March of 2004. Taylor Behl was barely 17 when she met Fawley
From the journal of the ex who filed charges against Fawley:
I never had people harass him, if they were, which I do not know..I never sent them after him. I never sent anyone after him. What ever bad things are going around,
I dont know where they came from. I simply don't. This whole posting is the truth. This is my feelings, this is the way things are. Maybe I should not talk to people about problems I have, but when they ask me how I am I cant just say i am 'fine'(...)
I never vandalized his van. I did however kick it a few times when I came home from godfreys. I was angry. I was angry because of what I knew would happen. I hated waiting for what I knew he was gonna tell me, after being informed by my best friend whom he talked to in depth. I was so angry that night. However, I am not strong enough to even dent that van, its thick metal. And when he came home he never talked with me etc. He was just quiet. Magically however thursday night or friday morning if you want to be technical, I was accused of writing 'f*** you' on the other side of it. I didnt, I dont know where it came from, anyone could have done it, but it was not me. When I finally saw it in the day light, it was actually written in some sort of easily smudgable medium...that is odd?? I think he may have done it, I dont know..I never will know...
Oh, gawd, not that old "honor among thieves" crap again!!!
The idea that a prison full of rapists and murderers is some how going to punish another rapist/murderer is an urban myth.
It is extremely rare to get killed in prison for something you did on the outside. You get killed for something you did while IN prison.
Ben Fawley, by his own admission on this page at deviantart.com, which displays a greeting card he made, did time for auto theft:
Even doing time for auto-theft didn't kill the art. The date was 19 August 1991 ~ a finished card like this was worth 1/2 a pack of cigaretts in the jail I was in. My Jailhouse "jobs" gave me access to the supplys and other needed to make art and other in jail. Other jailhouse art included Tattoos. Tattoos cost a lot. 3 cartons or more. Anyone who could do tattoos was well off and very safe since most wanted your service and having "open work" made sure someone was looking out for you...
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/22425038/
:: Yes, the title is truth in advertising. I made this card / drawing while doing a three-year bit. While in jail we were only allowed to have a blue ballpoint "pen". A jailhouse pen is not much, a soft rubber tube with a ballpoint pen ink 'tube' & point. I used PaperMate pens I creatively aquired and hid in my cell's air ducts. The paper was taken from the Jailhouse church. The black and red ballpoint pens were lifted from a guard. The ruler was the side of a pen. Scoring the paper with a fine-point pen & ripping was how one achieved cutting the paper. The glue was lifted from an office in the kitchen. Even doing time for auto-theft didnt kill the art. The date was 19 August 1991 ~ a finished card like this was worth 1/2 a pack of cigaretts in the jail I was in. My Jailhouse "jobs" gave me access to the supplys and other needed to make art and other in jail. Other jailhouse art included Tattoos. Tattoos cost a lot. 3 cartons or more. Anyone who could do tattoos was well off and very safe since most wanted your service and having "open work" made sure someone was looking out for you. ::
~ Jailhouse tattoos are given using a "tool" made from a pen, a staple, and a bit of cotton thread. The ink is another story I will not get into here. ~
Now what should I have told her to prevent that????
We can't protect our children 24 hours/7 days a week.
Your remarks are absurd!
Vegporn? Deviantart? I wonder if he talked Taylor into posing for "art" photos?
ng a little:
(...A)bout ohio plates...I can't remember if Ben lived in Ohio (he did, at least in the late 1980s ~ S.H.) but he did have a habit of stealing license plates from cars and keeping them in his van...if he has anything to do with Taylor's dissappearance then I am willing to bet those Ohio tags on her car were ones that he stole about a year ago.... he had a whole van filled up with plates he stole from nearby neighborhoods...
Another ex of Ben's wrote the following
Ben and I were involved for (a short time) before his erratic behaviour, mood swings and criminal activity forced me to stop seeing him...
At one point one of his photographs on a deviantart.com site showed a bottle of pills that someone at websleuths.com identified as being a medication taken for bipolar disorder -- the mental illness Fawley lists among his many interests in one of his Livejournal profiles.
Skulz served a 30-day suspended sentence for the assault and battery described by the ex-lover -- it seems he's been pretty good at avoiding serious scrapes with the law since his time in prison for auto-theft in the late '80s/early '90s.
******
About Taylor's tag "Jailbait" written backwards, that has nothing to do with anything except for the fact that she was definitely hit on by men older than her.
It was just a personal "joke." She even joked about it with the local police, considering they were regulars where she worked.
Please get this word out, as people keep saying this as if she invites old men to her...she doesnt. Taylor is a very pretty girl, and unfortunately there are too many people who dont respect age limits.
Again, please post that the jailbait tag was nothing more than a personal kind of joke.
Thanks for keeping us all up to date. I really appreciate this. Good source of info!
Andrea
Posted by Andrea at September 21, 2005 06:00 AM
I can appreciate what you are saying. However, it was not his age that killed her. She could have met a 17 year old who might have done the same deed.
Hi. I'm a Richmond resident and a former friend of Ben's. I remain close friends with a girl he dated from 2000 to 2002. I'm also a local journalist (but I don't cover crime news). Because of all this, I prefer to remain anonymous here, but I want you to understand that I have credentials to say what I'm saying.
Ben has a couple of sides to his personality. Yes, he is charismatic and charming. But he's one of those people who holds on WAY too tightly to their significant others -- to the point of emotional, and sometimes physical, abuse. This year, he served two months on a 12-month assault conviction from charges brought by an ex-girlfriend. I know that my friend brought charges against him for an altercation that occurred when she left him for the final time in 2002. And I know that he has been diagnosed bipolar in the last few years and that he's not exactly consistent about taking his meds.
These things aside, I agree with you that it's doubtful that Ben had anything to do with Taylor's disappearance. He might know something, sure. But I doubt he harmed her.
As for the child pornography thing, the only positive thing I can say about Ben is that he absolutely LOVES his daughters and wouldn't do anything to harm them. Yeah, he might take creepy photos, but honestly I think that has more to do with Ben's lack of appropriate socialization his entire life than it has to do with any desires on his part.
I've always assumed that his attraction to young women has to do with his intense desire to never grow up. When I knew him, he absolutely refused to tell anyone his age -- and I'm not much younger than he is.
In other blogs, people have made much of the fact that he owned a number of computers. He built them himself, mostly from scavenged parts. Also, for a while he was collecting Social Security Disability, and in years past, he was living on student loans. So I'm sure that some of that money went to computers.
Also, Ben has had problems in the past with keeping his driver's license. In addition to his Nowhere Van being inoperational, it's doubtful that he even has a license, as it would take more money than he can probably get his hands on to get it out of hock.
I probably should not be posting here, but as a journalist and former friend of Ben's, I feel an innate desire to get the record straight. By the way, I've been impressed by your sleuthing and the conclusions you've drawn overall. You're a responsible blogger, and that's saying something.
Posted by Write_now at September 21, 2005 02:53 PM
Looks like a cross between Johnny Depp and Harvey Keitel.
At 17, in 1968, I went to work in Yellowstone as a waitress for the summer....didn't really know anyone, except a couple of older gals from my hometown who also went. (They were subsequently laid off - I wasn't.)
My point is....TIMES are DIFFERENT now. The culture has allowed so much crap that some girls today think is "normal." And, this is what we get. What used to be thought of as "perversion" is often now celebrated in the media. I would not send my 17 year old daughter away today, to college, unless I knew she had an escort everywhere she went outside of her dorm. (And, she would NOT be going to a college where boys were allowed in the girls dorm....that's for sure!)
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