Posted on 10/06/2005 7:07:47 AM PDT by newzjunkey
The address begins in a few minutes. The White House has described it as a "major" speech dealing with Iraq and the War on Terror.
It will .. Isaiah 17:1
Hope to see you around more Senior Newbie. ;*)
That's a good sign. Maybe he'll take care of the "temporary" tax cuts (income and death) and help push Congress to make them permanent. That would start to repair some of the damage.
Thanks for ping E. Will check the Blair on Iran URL.
I agree with you -- it was an excellent speech. President Bush has only been in post, this term, for one year -- he's already framing matters that will continue after this term ends. He is an amazing man with an amazing team.
I think you are right on both counts.
An asidem story (It's happened sufficient times for me to think it worthy of telling). A guy I respect, have known for years, tells me he thinks Christianity is evil and should be halted, banished, whatever. I ask him why? He tells me about one person, a relative, who went to church, was Christian, and the biggest fake in the world, a liar, mean, adulterer.
Let me ask you this, who then has the bigger "log in the eye"? The relative, or the guy telling me the story?
But of course, if one woman is being abused then naturally.. ALL women are being abused. It's Feminist Superbowl Sunday Logic! A special brand of bigotry.
Please do not forget one crucial aspect to your analysis, and factor in this: The President has said, routinely, clearly, regularly -- that not only are we going after terrorists but also after THOSE who harbor, aid, and abet the terrorists. Domestically and abroad.
I lived in an area which is largely held by the "aiders and abettors" of illegal immigration. Like you, many of the terrorist network members and cells resided in my area. It wasn't too difficult to know this.
In my locale, it, at times, was a tough call about whether or not to make a call about a "suspicious" person. I know I certainly did my part. And in the process, learned a great deal.
For one thing, the "let it all hang-out/multi-culti/celebrate your "whateverness" crowds have encouraged not a homogeneity, or encouragement of those newly here (legally or illegally) to assimilate; but instead to bring their "past" cultural norms to America; and to basically, "force" it upon others, again, aided and abetted by those pushing the liberal agenda.
Ergo, in suburbia San Francisco, it's not unusual to see folks from other parts of the world behaving in ways that are "out" of character for that particular American/state region.
Is their behavior suspicious, or simply an outcropping of cultural norms acquired before living in America?
ACLU and others, aka: supporters of the "be different" agenda, play both sides against the middle in encouraging problems, but then rushing in to pretend to be the "civil" crusaders of rights they themselves have enshrined via special interest and lobby groups.
Ball, set, match.
The dismantling of that "hidden" zone is what has to happen first.
Find those "hidden" aiders and abbettors. Address the laws which "protect them". In doing so, you cut "power" of the ACLU and liberal legal lobbies in half. You locate the network of those within the college/University systems working "quietly" behind the scenes to aid and abet the "illegal" network. You find out who is aiding and abetting the Identity Theft, and fraudulent documents rings.
As these things happen, Legitimate Law Enforcement CAN do their jobs. Until then? It's an invitation for Law Enforcement Workers to get stuck inside a courtroom, and doing "paperwork" instead of their jobs.
People can rail "SHUT THE BORDERS" till the cows come home; and thiefs and the internal USA "illegal" network will find ways to break through that newly erected "barrier" in order to continue their "funding" games.
The paths to dealing with the "illegal" network ARE being addressed under President Bush. It's being done, rather quietly (thanks to "non-reportage" by the MSM), and as a result, more of the hidden-zone "illegal network" are being nabbed.
Yes, I do agree with you that illegals should not be here. They should be making attempts to be here legally, or to enter legally. No disagreement from me, whatsoever.
However, there are many "legal" ways by which illegals can be in the US. Which programs and laws do you think should be addressed first? Visiting Temp Visa programs via Universities and colleges? "Amnesty" programs? Med/Evac? Temp Working Visas?
My point is this: There are a whole TON of programs contributing to your stats, and of course, the problems. I've only listed a FEW of the "programs and laws" which permit "illegals" to be here. Which one of these do you wish to address first? The COYOTE issue (those who "walk into this country" illegals), maybe?
I wonder what percentage of the 11-20 million is the "walk-ins" stat, and what percentage are those qualifying as "illegal" under "legitimate" programs. Do you know?
lol. "Quagmire" is so much easier to remember than in which war we are currently engaged. Hmm.. Quagmire, Quisling, Joe Q Publicique.. ;>.
Years ago, I authored a piece defending my President against the verbal, emotional and physical abuse by his wife. President Clinton, it was. And I meant every word. I disliked the Clinton Whitehouse agenda, lack of scruples and morals something fierce. I disliked intensely, how much their group enjoyed taking America to the brink of totalitarianistic legal control, and the selling off of American security and interests to "foreign countries" all for their own personal benefit.
The shock and stun from those reading it, was, uh, palpable. I was NO Clinton Fan. But, nobody harms my President, and for as long as America remains a free country.
I continue to find it rather fascinating that the "anti-domestic abuse" usual suspects, continue to "levee" verbal and emotional abuse at President Bush.
They call it free speech.
And some of the usual suspects even think it okay to call women "ho's" etc., as a term of endearment.
Do you think it's possible the "anti-domestic abuse" usual suspects are confused about their own meanings and free speech?
Hey, Junior Newbie, there is a group of "Newbie_r Than Thou" on the thread and that makes you a senior!
Good luck and see you around.
Can't find a recording of this speech anywhere, typical old media. Anyone know where I can watch it/listen to it? I only heard snippets and today there is no mention of it ever happening, at least on CNN/FOX/Cspan, etc
Thanks in advance.
"lol. "Quagmire" is so much easier to remember than in which war we are currently engaged. Hmm.. Quagmire, Quisling, Joe Q Publicique.. ;>."
That's funny.
Well, it's sort of funny. What's not funny is how anxious some people are to see Iraq become a quagmire. Honorable people can legitimately feel we did not go into Iraq properly and they were free to debate before we went in.
But we are there now and I don't see how an American could feel s/he was being honorable while wishing for and/or gloating over a bad state of affairs in Iraq.
Upper right hand corner has photo of the President and video link.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/10/print/20051006-3.html
So you think any and all people who practice Islam faith are cutting heads off? Did I interpet this of yours correctly? The stats just don't bear this out, yeknew.
LOL - Good one. Yes I have noticed that group!
Thanks. For some reason, though, I can't get the sound here at work. Guess I'll have to wait for Cspan (won't hold my breath)
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