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Newdow Wants To Change Entire Pledge Of Allegiance
KCRA ^ | 10/05/05 | KCRA

Posted on 10/05/2005 4:54:09 PM PDT by Pikamax

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- A man who is fighting to get the words "under God" out of the Pledge of Allegiance was back in federal court Wednesday, making some surprising comments about the case.

Although the hearing was a procedural matter with no key rulings, Michael Newdow said that if he is successful in having the words removed from the pledge at the U.S. Supreme Court level, it still wouldn't be enough.

Newdow believes that it is time to get rid of the old Pledge of Allegiance altogether. He said that it's impractical to just change the pledge because children will continue to say "under God" out of habit or under protest.

"The whole point of the pledge was to unify the students, and it's not," Newdow said outside the hearing Wednesday. "(The pledge) has become divisive, not so much because it has been the atheists who have become discriminated (against), and they don't have so much of a voice. But if the Christians and the people who believe in God want to start throwing 'God' in there, the pledge will be continuing 'one nation indivisible,' while someone is saying 'under God.' And I think it's going to be a mess, and I think we're going to have to get rid of it."

Newdow also said there should possibly be some kind of a competition to come up with a new pledge.

Judge Lawrence Carleton in the hearing Wednesday told Newdow and attorneys for three Sacramento-area school districts that once the procedural motions are filed, he will quickly file an injunction against the schools, and then send the case to the Ninth District Circuit Court of Appeals. Carleton said he would not rule on the merits of the case himself.

School district attorney Terrance Cassidy said that the case is proceeding as expected.

"We're pleased that he announced that he would immediately enter a stay of any injunction that he would enter so that the school district would not change its day-to-day procedure and would be able to continue to recite the Pledge of Allegiance on a day-to-day basis throughout ... all the appeals," Cassidy said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: enemywithin; inbreeding; korsakovspsychosis; lawsuit; lefty; newdow; pledgeofallegiance; scumbag; syphiliticdementia; undergod
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To: gondramB
Newdow believes that it is time to get rid of the old Pledge of Allegiance altogether. He said that it's impractical to just change the pledge because children will continue to say "under God" out of habit or under protest."

Bingo. Loud and obnoxious, till the day I die.

21 posted on 10/05/2005 5:15:19 PM PDT by RedBeaconNY (Vous parlez trop, mais vous ne dites rien.)
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To: cripplecreek

I think spontaneous combustion would be fun to watch.


22 posted on 10/05/2005 5:15:45 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: cripplecreek
I just saw this on the 5 pm news on KCRA. For fear of being banned, arrested, etc. I'll refrain from voicing my opinion.

Nonetheless,...

I Pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America. And to the Republic, for which it stands, One Nation Under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for All.

23 posted on 10/05/2005 5:15:51 PM PDT by Diver Dave
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To: Pikamax
It is "One nation under God" whether the atheists believe it or like it or not. It doesn't matter.

Rather I should say THEY don't matter.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

24 posted on 10/05/2005 5:17:14 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: gondramB

I can't help but feel a small bit of pity for the man. He's allowed his hatred and anger to consume him. He can never be happy again and I doubt he can ever feel love again. Any love he ever felt for his daughter or ex wife has been replaced with an angry desperate need for firm control.

What a pathetic way to go through life.


25 posted on 10/05/2005 5:26:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Americanwolf

No need to apologize for the rant.

It was right on the button.

Some people have aspirations to be politicians, engineers, doctors, musicians... et al. This persons' goal is to remove the Pledge. How pathetic! Get a life Dude!

Be thankful for what you have. Count your blessings.


26 posted on 10/05/2005 5:27:31 PM PDT by AMERIKA (How will we know when the war in Iraq is over?)
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To: Montfort

"it is time to get rid of the old Pledge of Allegiance altogether" - NOPE, Michael, it's time to get rid of YOU.


27 posted on 10/05/2005 5:28:17 PM PDT by bboop (Facts are your friend.)
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To: TheOracleAtLilac

You are baaaad.


28 posted on 10/05/2005 5:29:41 PM PDT by JOHANNES801
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To: Pikamax
I submit the follow change.

I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America. And to the Republic which it guides, One Nation, under G-d, Indivisible and if you don't like it, you know where the exit is

29 posted on 10/05/2005 5:32:54 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!)
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To: Pikamax

I say we get rid of him instead... and all like him.


30 posted on 10/05/2005 5:34:09 PM PDT by AliVeritas (("Free Republic, the birth of political jihad" - Mary Mapes))
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To: Pikamax

I can't believe this a-hole is still making noise. The only thing destroying the unity is idiotic people like newdow.


31 posted on 10/05/2005 5:35:21 PM PDT by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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To: Pikamax

I hope this Michael Newdow comes down with cancer .... the terminal kind.


32 posted on 10/05/2005 5:35:42 PM PDT by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: AMERIKA

Thank you.

I am thankful every morning and every evening...my blessings have been so numerous i have lost count.

But I am both thankful and blessed to have this site for a an exchange of Ideas..


33 posted on 10/05/2005 5:35:50 PM PDT by Americanwolf (I Served proudly.... how dare you tell me I have no convictions...)
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To: Pikamax

His 15 minutes of fame are up.


34 posted on 10/05/2005 5:37:17 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Americanwolf

OK this means:

working all week, weekends included of course
not spending any money until God is taken off
dang, no religious holidays off
no rule of law... basically

I bet if I cap him in the knee, the first words out of his mouth would include God.


35 posted on 10/05/2005 5:39:22 PM PDT by AliVeritas (("Free Republic, the birth of political jihad" - Mary Mapes))
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To: cripplecreek

This man needs to have lots of prayers cause he has lost it. How one man can make the pledge become unconstitutional in one state is beyond me.


36 posted on 10/05/2005 5:39:37 PM PDT by Halls (Terri Schindler Schiavo was murdered legally in our country, NEVER FORGET!!!)
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To: AliVeritas

I won't argue with that one bit...:)


37 posted on 10/05/2005 5:41:39 PM PDT by Americanwolf (I Served proudly.... how dare you tell me I have no convictions...)
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To: cripplecreek

So does this mean we shouldn't put him out of his misery?
Paging Felos... is Kevorkian out yet?


38 posted on 10/05/2005 5:41:41 PM PDT by AliVeritas (("Free Republic, the birth of political jihad" - Mary Mapes))
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To: bboop

Hey, you think he has bodyguards? He has to... right?


39 posted on 10/05/2005 5:42:31 PM PDT by AliVeritas (("Free Republic, the birth of political jihad" - Mary Mapes))
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