[backhoe]

As always with a story like this, proceed with caution before reaching conclusions- much remains unknown.

As Drudge says, "developing..."

[TheLion]

Bump!

[RasterMaster]

Bumped & Bookmarked!

[TNPatriot]

Muzzi symp, IIRC amish don't grow the Dr. Koop beards until they marry.

[The Westerner]

Thank you, backhoe, for another excellent compilation. Please add me to the OU bomber ping list.

[PGalt]

Thanks backhoe, for all of your work.

[B4Ranch]

Thank you for your efforts. Bookmarked

[Hyzenthlay]

Thanks. I haven't checked today's paper, but as of yesterday, my local paper hadn't even mentioned it. No kidding.

[Idisarthur]

Hey here is another story, just taken from Michelle Malkins page that refers to this guys page -- "Veteran journalist/blogger Mark Tapscott".

Veteran journalist/blogger Mark Tapscott ---http://tapscottscopydesk.blogspot.com/2005/10/13-plastic-bottles-found-in-hinrichs.html --- 13 Bottles in Car of Suicide Bomber!

The guy apparently had 13 bottles in the trunk of his car. Has anyone suggested (MSM) that he was going to kill hundreds of OU fans???

[processing please hold]

You never cease to amaze me backhoe, never. Fantastic.

bttt

[Lexington Green]

Bookmarked

[pinz-n-needlez]

Thanks, backhoe. Looks like you used a shovel loader on this one. ;-)

Please add my name to any ping list. (And I thought I had recoved from my tinfoil addiction. :-/ )

Pinz

[nkycincinnatikid]

bump

[tall_tex]

Can anyone give me a URL to this thread that I can forward? Got several people of intrest to send it to.

Thanks

[GOP_Thug_Mom]

great post! bookmarking...

[GOP_Thug_Mom]

wanted to make sure you saw this thread

[LadyPilgrim]

All I can say is......WOW! WOW! and WOW!
You did a lot of work on this! Good job!

Thank you! ;-)

[backhoe]

 David Boren and George Tenet (Oklahoma, University, Norman, OK) -- On second thoughts, there is a lot of stuff on the entire blog. Ping going out to full list right away. Thanks again Lizarde.
Please check this site: http://www.tapscottscopydesk.blogspot.com/
There are quite a few posts on the Norman bombing on this blog. Check it out.

 go here now:
http://tapscottscopydesk.blogspot.com/2005/10/13-plastic-bottles-found-in-hinrichs.html

[backhoe]

SUMMARY so far: 

To: Howlin

Hi Howlin, Glad to see you! (o: I'm in the progress of working up a detailed and referenced summary of what we know so far, but I'll try sum most of it up in a few quick sentences if I can... (those who know me will laugh heartily at that statement (o;)

First, the MSM is following the AP and Official Story as well as keeping the lid on things for the most part - Several local media outlets are not buying the official line and have done their own in-depth reporting. Channel 9 and Channel 4 in particular are doing a better job than ANY of the other channels/papers. Agencies investigating are reported as: Homeland Security, Joint Terrorism Task Force, FBI, Norman and OU PD, ATFE (BATF). FBI has officially taken the lead in this investigation although they are not releasing details at this time.

1.) Someone set off a bomb sometime between 7:20 and 8pm outside the OU/Kansas State game on Oct. 1, 2005. There are discrepancies on the exact time and we are working on getting a definitive time right now.

2.) One person reportedly killed. He has tenatively* been identified as Joel Henry Hinrichs III of Colorado Springs, a student at OU. Although his father and the MSM media (AP) and one local channel (ch.5) maintain he was not associated with muslims he was living with a Pakistani roommate (more on him later...). Boren (OU Pres.), FBI and others are trying to play this off as an "isolated incident" and a suicide by a "mentally unstable" young man. Connecting the dots in this story does NOT lead to that conclusion by any sense.

It is reported that Mr. Hinrichs had a ticket to the game and attempted to enter the stadium (containing approx. 84000 people) with a backpack through at least 2 gates before running away when asked to allow a search of his bag. He then went and sat at a bench by the bus loading area. Some reports state he was taking stuff out of his backpack and trying to put it on his person or fiddling with it somehow and it went off. Seeing as there was a large amount of explosives found in his apartment (see below) it might be assumed that this was an "accident" of some sort and he probably didn't mean to be killed...

(* After reports of his identity and comments from his family were obtained by various media outlets in CO and OK they are now saying that there must be DNA testing and it could take a while.)

3.) Five other reported injured and then the 5 injured "disappeared" from the reporting. (5 "accomplices" re-surfaced in reporting tonight - reporter says may have been involved with the bombing or taking stuff out of suspected "suicide's" apartment.)

4.) Police responding with bomb squad found and detonated a second package containing what is now said to have contained materials or "parts" of a bomb. This was originally reported as a second device by authorities.

5.) FBI cleared out apartment building and such and hauled away explosives deemed very volatile and exploded them on the local PDs test range before notifying others. People report hearing that explosion some 4-5 miles from the range. Also found in the apartment was Islamic papers and such.

6.) The device used and presumably stuff detonated the next day were TATP - "mother of satan" is the name the Islamic Jihadists call it. Very volatile substance.

7.) Roommate of Joel Hinrichs is named Fazal M. Cheema and is reportedly MIA at this time. There were reports he was brought back in for questioning and then released back to his apartment but this has been reported as not accurate. Reports state that an airline ticket belonging to this person for a date in the future was for a trip to Algeria.

8.) There are reports of Joel being seen at a local mosque on numerous occassions (Ch.9 or 4 reported this - can't remember which off-hand - doing this summary from memory).

9.) Hinrichs attempted to buy Ammonium Nitrate several days before the blast at the local feed store. One report said an undercover police officer was reportedly there and got a license plate number, and one report I saw said the owner of the store called the FBI.

Suffice to say that most of us who have been following this story agree that it stinks to high heaven as far as the "official line" goes. This is especially true considering the history of Norman, OK, OKC, OU, and the presence of Hamas and Al Qaeda groups which are known to law enforcement. (Massoui(SP?), Nick Berg, et al...)

Early reports that couldn't be relied upon (verboten site to FR) are now being confirmed and reported in bits and pieces by local media as well.

Probably the most remarkable thing about all of this is the lack of coverge in the MSM nationwide. Fox originally broke the story and then pulled it. A google search of news showed only 300 or so articles the other day vs. over 6,000 for Bali and over 1600 for the NY boating accident which took place on the 2nd.

There is probably more I'm forgetting at this point - it's late and I've got to bed after this post (In-laws dropping by tomorrow)... I apologize if I've left anything crucial out.

To get caught up on Eyewitness reports you may wish to scan through for posts from PhiKapMom - she was there and has a lot of relevant information. Rte66 has done some excellent background searching, as well as a couple of other FReepers whose contributions have been tremendous and whose name I can't recall offhand - SORRY!

You may also wish to freepmail indcons and ask to be put on the "Norman Bombing" ping list the two of them have going. Cindy also has a nice collection of updated links in this thread and FReeper Backhoe earlier today posted a compilation thread. (Search their "in forum" link from their profile pages is probably the best way to find the threads.)

I'll ping you to my detailed summary once completed... it's taking me longer than I thought, but I'll try best I can to tie this altogether in one big article that's a little easier to follow.

Thanks for stopping by Howlin' (o:
Take care,
LR

4,457 posted on 10/06/2005 5:19:48 AM EDT by LibertyRocks

 

 http://www.normantranscript.com/localnews/local_story_279005013
Published: October 06, 2005 12:15 am
"Student tried to buy ammonium nitrate"

 

 http://www.newsok.com
http://newsok.com/video/1634950/
http://www.newsok.com/video/1633639

http://www.oudaily.com
http://www.oudaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/05/4344a2c30d701

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46681
"OU bomber tried to buy ammonium nitrate
University student attended same mosque as 9-11's Moussaoui"

 

 http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=17772
http://www.zombietime.com/oklahoma_suicide_bombing/

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003675.htm

hattip: 

4,462 posted on 10/06/2005 6:43:48 AM EDT by Cindy

Hi Howlin, Glad to see you! (o: I'm in the progress of working up a detailed and referenced summary of what we know so far, but I'll try sum most of it up in a few quick sentences if I can... (those who know me will laugh heartily at that statement (o;)

First, the MSM is following the AP and Official Story as well as keeping the lid on things for the most part - Several local media outlets are not buying the official line and have done their own in-depth reporting. Channel 9 and Channel 4 in particular are doing a better job than ANY of the other channels/papers. Agencies investigating are reported as: Homeland Security, Joint Terrorism Task Force, FBI, Norman and OU PD, ATFE (BATF). FBI has officially taken the lead in this investigation although they are not releasing details at this time.

1.) Someone set off a bomb sometime between 7:20 and 8pm outside the OU/Kansas State game on Oct. 1, 2005. There are discrepancies on the exact time and we are working on getting a definitive time right now.

2.) One person reportedly killed. He has tenatively* been identified as Joel Henry Hinrichs III of Colorado Springs, a student at OU. Although his father and the MSM media (AP) and one local channel (ch.5) maintain he was not associated with muslims he was living with a Pakistani roommate (more on him later...). Boren (OU Pres.), FBI and others are trying to play this off as an "isolated incident" and a suicide by a "mentally unstable" young man. Connecting the dots in this story does NOT lead to that conclusion by any sense.

It is reported that Mr. Hinrichs had a ticket to the game and attempted to enter the stadium (containing approx. 84000 people) with a backpack through at least 2 gates before running away when asked to allow a search of his bag. He then went and sat at a bench by the bus loading area. Some reports state he was taking stuff out of his backpack and trying to put it on his person or fiddling with it somehow and it went off. Seeing as there was a large amount of explosives found in his apartment (see below) it might be assumed that this was an "accident" of some sort and he probably didn't mean to be killed...

(* After reports of his identity and comments from his family were obtained by various media outlets in CO and OK they are now saying that there must be DNA testing and it could take a while.)

3.) Five other reported injured and then the 5 injured "disappeared" from the reporting. (5 "accomplices" re-surfaced in reporting tonight - reporter says may have been involved with the bombing or taking stuff out of suspected "suicide's" apartment.)

4.) Police responding with bomb squad found and detonated a second package containing what is now said to have contained materials or "parts" of a bomb. This was originally reported as a second device by authorities.

5.) FBI cleared out apartment building and such and hauled away explosives deemed very volatile and exploded them on the local PDs test range before notifying others. People report hearing that explosion some 4-5 miles from the range. Also found in the apartment was Islamic papers and such.

6.) The device used and presumably stuff detonated the next day were TATP - "mother of satan" is the name the Islamic Jihadists call it. Very volatile substance.

7.) Roommate of Joel Hinrichs is named Fazal M. Cheema and is reportedly MIA at this time. There were reports he was brought back in for questioning and then released back to his apartment but this has been reported as not accurate. Reports state that an airline ticket belonging to this person for a date in the future was for a trip to Algeria.

8.) There are reports of Joel being seen at a local mosque on numerous occassions (Ch.9 or 4 reported this - can't remember which off-hand - doing this summary from memory).

9.) Hinrichs attempted to buy Ammonium Nitrate several days before the blast at the local feed store. One report said an undercover police officer was reportedly there and got a license plate number, and one report I saw said the owner of the store called the FBI.

Suffice to say that most of us who have been following this story agree that it stinks to high heaven as far as the "official line" goes. This is especially true considering the history of Norman, OK, OKC, OU, and the presence of Hamas and Al Qaeda groups which are known to law enforcement. (Massoui(SP?), Nick Berg, et al...)

Early reports that couldn't be relied upon (verboten site to FR) are now being confirmed and reported in bits and pieces by local media as well.

Probably the most remarkable thing about all of this is the lack of coverge in the MSM nationwide. Fox originally broke the story and then pulled it. A google search of news showed only 300 or so articles the other day vs. over 6,000 for Bali and over 1600 for the NY boating accident which took place on the 2nd.

There is probably more I'm forgetting at this point - it's late and I've got to bed after this post (In-laws dropping by tomorrow)... I apologize if I've left anything crucial out.

To get caught up on Eyewitness reports you may wish to scan through for posts from PhiKapMom - she was there and has a lot of relevant information. Rte66 has done some excellent background searching, as well as a couple of other FReepers whose contributions have been tremendous and whose name I can't recall offhand - SORRY!

You may also wish to freepmail indcons and ask to be put on the "Norman Bombing" ping list the two of them have going. Cindy also has a nice collection of updated links in this thread and FReeper Backhoe earlier today posted a compilation thread. (Search their "in forum" link from their profile pages is probably the best way to find the threads.)

I'll ping you to my detailed summary once completed... it's taking me longer than I thought, but I'll try best I can to tie this altogether in one big article that's a little easier to follow.

Thanks for stopping by Howlin' (o:
Take care,
LR

[BlessedBeGod]

Thank you so much!

Bookmarked!

[backhoe]

 

Zombie: Oklahoma Suicide Bombing Reports

LGF operative zombie has put together an overview of what’s known so far about the Suicide Bombing in Norman, Oklahoma, a case that is getting curiouser and curiouser—with news that the person who died in the blast, Joel Henry Hinrichs III, had a roommate who was a member of the Muslim Students Association, and may have attended a nearby mosque.

Here’s a video report at NewsOK.com, with an interview with the owner of a feed store where Hinrichs apparently tried to buy ammonium nitrate fertilizer (which can be used to build very powerful bombs) a few days before his death.

UPDATE at 10/5/05 7:09:14 pm:

I’m starting to think this was a work accident (lgf: search.)

05:53 PM PDT | link: 349 comments

 

 OU SUICIDE BOMBER: Jayna Davis radio schedule; Jayna names the reporter kissing up to Muslims

 

 Officer had clue before OU blast (police admit knowledge of attempted ammonium nitrate buy)