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Microsoft: No Office software for Linux
Macworld ^ | 10/05/2005 | Jeremy Kirk

Posted on 10/05/2005 10:40:42 AM PDT by Panerai

Microsoft Corp. is not going to release a version of its Office suite software for open-source rival Linux, although the company is actively studying how Linux works and how it can integrate with the platform, a Microsoft representative said Wednesday.

“The simplest way I can answer the question is that Microsoft is 100 percent focused on Windows,” said Nick McGrath, director of platform strategy for Microsoft in the U.K. “We have no plans at this present moment in time to deploy or build a version of Microsoft Office on Linux.”

McGrath participated in a roundtable debate on whether free software development leads to proprietary software or if the flow works in reverse at the LinuxWorld Conference and Expo that started Wednesday in London. The lone representative from Microsoft, McGrath handled a fair amount of ribbing from emotional open-source advocates who used the forum to question how Microsoft plans to deal with what advocates say is increasing market share of the Linux platform.

Open-source software allows anybody who has a great idea to “stand on the shoulders of giants,” whereas in the commercial world it has to be patented, the underlying infrastructure has to be licensed and the idea has to be tried, said Mark Shuttleworth of the Ubuntu Foundation.

(Excerpt) Read more at macworld.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: linux; microsoft; office
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1 posted on 10/05/2005 10:40:46 AM PDT by Panerai
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To: Panerai

Another they could have put this was they are using a monopoly in one area to create new monopolies in other areas.


2 posted on 10/05/2005 10:42:33 AM PDT by gondramB (Conservatism is a positive doctrine. Reactionaryism is a negative doctrine.)
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To: Panerai

Open source projects are filling in the void with Office compatible software under the Open Office project.

I believe there is a Linux version already floating around out there.


3 posted on 10/05/2005 10:42:37 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Panerai

Open document standards will make it moot because Microsoft will be forced to comply with the standard by many large corporations and government entities.


4 posted on 10/05/2005 10:45:50 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yep. They are attempting to avoid this by deploying smoke and mirrors (e.g. their attempts to obfuscate the Massachusetts open-format requirements), but that will only buy them a little more time (which they seem determined to squander rather than take the opportunity to adapt).


5 posted on 10/05/2005 10:50:55 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: Panerai
Microsoft Corp. is not going to release a version of its Office suite software for open-source rival Linux, although the company is actively studying how Linux works and how it can integrate with the platform,

1. Embrace
2. Extend
3. Extinguish

Their strategy, time after time.

6 posted on 10/05/2005 10:51:34 AM PDT by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Open document standards will make it moot because Microsoft will be forced to comply with the standard by many large corporations and government entities."

Not so. You have to have critical mass before open document standards will force Microsoft to comply.

Right now, Microsoft has critical mass and Microsoft does not have to comply to the open document standard. By increasing the incompatibility with the open document standards, Microsoft can force the business community to choose now. And they will choose Microsoft to be compatible with the rest of the critical mass. This is the strategy that Microsoft has used successfully to squash a number of competitors. They did it in word processors, spreadsheets, browsers.

7 posted on 10/05/2005 10:52:30 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Panerai
“The simplest way I can answer the question is that Microsoft is 100 percent focused on Windows,” said Nick McGrath...

An interesting quote for users of Mac Office.

8 posted on 10/05/2005 10:52:37 AM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Petronski
An interesting quote for users of Mac Office.

Indeed. Glad I have iWork.

9 posted on 10/05/2005 10:55:29 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Panerai

If you want Office on Unix, the best approach currently available is to buy a Mac. OSX is essentially FreeBSD with a prettier windowing system, and Office for OSX is a genuine Microsoft product with few compatibility hangups (OpenOffice 1.1 has several compatibility issues, though the claim is they've largely fixed that in 2.0, I'd have my doubts).


10 posted on 10/05/2005 11:00:48 AM PDT by HolgerDansk ("Oh Bother", said Pooh, as he worked the bolt.)
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To: DannyTN
This is the strategy that Microsoft has used successfully to squash a number of competitors. They did it in word processors, spreadsheets, browsers.

That was then, this is now.

Believe it or not, the reason Word became the defacto word processing standard is that WordPerfect had strong copy protection, while Office did not. All those pirated copies of word people were using at home made them want to use Word at work.

In other words, free software was the driving force behind Microsoft's monopoly.

Rather than install a pirate copy of Office on my parents' computer, I now install OpenOffice because it won't make any difference to them and there are no licensing issues.

"Free" will be the driving force behind the _gradual_ erosion of Microsoft's monopoly.

11 posted on 10/05/2005 11:04:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: coconutt2000

> I believe there is a Linux version [of Office] already floating around out there.

OpenOffice. I use it, version 1.1.4. OO lacks a MS Outlook equivalent, which is ok by me because KMail works just fine and Outlook's calendar is an intrusive nuisance.


12 posted on 10/05/2005 11:13:05 AM PDT by cloud8
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Free" will be the driving force behind the _gradual_ erosion of Microsoft's monopoly.

I certainly agree it can be. And I agree, that Microsoft obtained much of it's critical mass by offering it's software free, or at very low prices, and probably by weak copy protection as well.

But once that critical mass was obtained, Microsoft has been able to use it to successfully defend against upstarts that would use similar strategies to displace them.

I'd love to see it work. But this article is evidence that Microsoft is taking steps to try to squash the Linux revolt before it has enough critical mass to be a true contender.

13 posted on 10/05/2005 11:14:20 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
But once that critical mass was obtained, Microsoft has been able to use it to successfully defend against upstarts that would use similar strategies to displace them.

MS would drive them out of business by underselling them until they ran out of money.

It will not be possible to kill open source that way.

14 posted on 10/05/2005 11:21:13 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: gondramB
Linux could find a way to create a platform window within Linux to operate all Windows/Mac programs if they wish.

They should be able to do it themselves IMO.
15 posted on 10/05/2005 11:23:59 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

"Linux could find a way to create a platform window within Linux to operate all Windows/Mac programs if they wish.

They should be able to do it themselves IMO."


while that work is ongoing it's not as efficient. The application developers within the MS Office group have access to extra information about how Windows works - information that gives them an advantage - As the Word Perfect and Lotus people found out.


16 posted on 10/05/2005 11:36:50 AM PDT by gondramB (Conservatism is a positive doctrine. Reactionaryism is a negative doctrine.)
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To: gondramB

I understand the monopoly issue, but why don't some people just write a huge program called "Office 2004 for Linux" and be done with it?


17 posted on 10/05/2005 11:41:54 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Once Microsoft has that critical mass, which they do with their office products, they do not have to compete on price. They simply introduce changes that make their products incompatible with the rest of the non-microsoft world.

Then people are forced to choose between leaving microsoft products to go to an incompatible non-microsoft world. Or upgrading within the microsoft world to stay current. Invariably they stay to maintain compatibility with the rest of the business world.



18 posted on 10/05/2005 11:41:54 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Panerai
“The simplest way I can answer the question is that Microsoft is 100 percent focused on Windows,”

Yet their Office for Mac is better than Office for Windows.

19 posted on 10/05/2005 11:47:12 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: DannyTN
They simply introduce changes that make their products incompatible with the rest of the non-microsoft world.

The ghost of Christmas-future:

Massachusetts Verdict: MS Office Formats Out

20 posted on 10/05/2005 11:59:30 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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