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10 Dead - 84+ Sick - Toronto Illness Spreads
MSNBC

Posted on 10/05/2005 10:19:30 AM PDT by silentknight

Doctors "the patients fall ill and die within 2-3 days"

10 dead - 40+ hospitilized 80+ sick.

Unknown illness in Toronto.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Canada
KEYWORDS: cdc; deathtoll; healthcare; illness; mysteryillness; outbreak; publichealth
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To: Calpernia

Scary stuff.


161 posted on 10/05/2005 8:12:24 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Kozak
Hate to break this to you but every flu season we have thousands of dead. Generally around 20K. A bird flu pandemic could result in hundreds of thousands of deaths.

But wouldn't you also expect to find a lot of dead birds in the area?

162 posted on 10/05/2005 10:11:04 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: silentknight
"The cause of the outbreak at the Seven Oaks Home for the Aged remains unknown, although officials insisted the situation was under control. "

This statement really assures me. NOT.

163 posted on 10/06/2005 12:11:50 AM PDT by de Buillion (Perspective: 1880 dead Heroes in 3 yr vs. 3589 abortions EVERY DAY , 1999, USA.)
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To: pepsionice
"Tronto has a large Asian population. Makes one wonder if this is the start of the great flu season that GW talked about...with thousands of dead. "

My take on GWB's statements about quarantining parts of the US tells me that he is trying to tell us something, and that they know much more than they are admitting.

164 posted on 10/06/2005 12:19:06 AM PDT by de Buillion (Perspective: 1880 dead Heroes in 3 yr vs. 3589 abortions EVERY DAY , 1999, USA.)
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To: MikeinIraq

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051005/sc_nm/flu_dc


165 posted on 10/06/2005 12:21:46 AM PDT by raygun
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To: The Red Zone

From post 17:

----I remember listening to Art Bell a few weeks ago, and he had someone on the phone talking about dead birds in Toronto, and didn't know what was causing it. Could it be the Bird Flu??----


However, if that really is the case then it's good news (sort of). Much better that it still has to go from birds to humans (not as many tears except for the farmers when you toss a few million chickens into a pit).

When we stop seeing dead birds and only dead humans (as in person to person transmission) is when we need to worry. Conservative estimates say 5 to 10 million dead. Others estimate 50 to 100 million dead (worldwide).


166 posted on 10/06/2005 12:22:02 AM PDT by geopyg (Ever Vigilant, Never Fearful)
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To: pbrown
They've had days to do the autopsies on them. What's the holdup in releasing their findings.

Exactly. By now they know something.

167 posted on 10/06/2005 12:26:37 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: geopyg

Quick check on some figures. In 1918 world pop. was ~ 2 billion, with est. 20 - 50 million flu deaths at a 10% mortality rate. Avian flu now is 50% mortality rate. Assume it drops (to 20%?) after it mutates for human to human transmission.

World pop. now is ~6 billion (3x the 1918 pop.) So 20 - 50 x 3 is 60 - 150 and then x2 (twice as lethal?) is 120 to 300 million deaths.

Medical care is better now so that would decrease the rate perhaps. BUT, worldwide travel is much quicker now (hours rather than a week) so spread would be much quicker.


168 posted on 10/06/2005 12:30:52 AM PDT by geopyg (Ever Vigilant, Never Fearful)
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To: all4one; redgolum
Best post on the thread award to you. That's evidence that cannot be ignored.

Please ping me if you post something else along these lines. I am outside of Seattle and had a run of chicken sudden deaths (from illness) a few weeks back (now apparently over with). None of us are sick. I don't mean to be frightening anyone. I just found it odd because in all the years we have had chickens we have never seen anything like it. And they were not old hens either.

169 posted on 10/06/2005 12:35:29 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Calpernia

You know this is all just too much coincidence for me. In the same time period we have a high-mortality new dog flu, the avian flu, and a wierd mystery illness with a bunch of dead birds found a few weeks earlier only 11 miles away.


170 posted on 10/06/2005 12:37:58 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Paul_Denton; Rutles4Ever

Also if you check the news for Canada, there are a bunch of new restrictions now on flights between there and the US.
For some other reason, of course.


171 posted on 10/06/2005 12:39:13 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: silentknight
Coronavirus. You heard it here first.

In fact the dog flu thing and the dead birds, too, all coronavirus.

Too much coincidence to be random. It's got to be terrorists.

And yes I do need a tinfoil hat to wear, I suppose. But it's just too much coincidence to be believeable.

172 posted on 10/06/2005 12:50:50 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Judith Anne

Ping for your thoughts..


173 posted on 10/06/2005 12:52:28 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

Hello, MarMema! Sorry about your chickens.

Have you been following the Avian Flu Surveillance thread? Or its sister thread, Avian Flu Preparedness thread? It seems I've seen your name over there occasionally.

I've been reading them for quite some time and it's really mind boggling about this flu. I'm totally amazed that the president mentioned it - I only gleaned a little of his comments on FR.

The other half of little jeremiah saw a TV today (we don't have one) and some news show (couldn't remember what station/company) was saying stuff about Avian flu that I've been reading on FR for months, quite detailed.

Time to stock up on masks and immune strenghtening herbs.


174 posted on 10/06/2005 12:53:00 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: ARridgerunner
Toronto is an illness.
175 posted on 10/06/2005 12:55:09 AM PDT by Allan
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To: little jeremiah
You can see the curb. I think that means you have the authority to tow it all away. Private Parking -- violators will be beheaded.

Echinacea (over the counter herb) is something I have been taking for a couple of months since I have sinus problem and my father had it as well. I am doing much better these days since taking that.

But anti-biotics are bad -- they knock down the immune system and makes one come down with bugs more often if you rely on them.

Only use anti-biotics if it is absolutely necessary!

Chicken soup is good because if you use the skin of the chicken in a soup, then you get components of that immune system. (The skin of the chicken is where the immune system is -- removing it makes it much less effective -- in my opinion).

176 posted on 10/06/2005 3:02:40 AM PDT by topher (Please let Old-Fashioned moral values return to the United States!)
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To: MarMema
>>>>coronavirus

SARs is coronavirus.

Is this Bird and Dog Flu the Coronavirus? Why did all the reporting stop on it? Did they rename it to stop a panic?

Images

About Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS)

177 posted on 10/06/2005 5:18:36 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: geopyg
BUT, worldwide travel is much quicker now (hours rather than a week) so spread would be much quicker.

It would, if we allow international air travel.

178 posted on 10/06/2005 5:21:40 AM PDT by Jim Noble (In a time of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Orwell)
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To: The Red Zone
But wouldn't you also expect to find a lot of dead birds in the area?

Not necessarily. The big worry is about mutation to human to human transmission. What if that occurred in say Asia, and then a person infected traveled to Canuckistan? Most of us don't have daily contact with live birds.
179 posted on 10/06/2005 5:42:24 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: pepsionice

This is no joke--the asians deal in live bird sales in largely unregulated live-bird markets in several U.S. and Canadian cities. The Scientific community with expertise in Avian Flu have pounded the drum for the USDA to shut down these breeding grounds for Avian Flu mutants. These markets present a huge public health risk but scientist recommendations are ignored, just like with the AIDS epidemic, for political reasons.


180 posted on 10/06/2005 6:07:47 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Conservatism: doing what is right instead of what is easy)
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