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1 posted on 10/04/2005 7:33:33 PM PDT by jdm
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Furthermore, there is no reason to believe that Miers' nomination resulted from the president's careful consultation with people capable of such judgments. If 100 such people had been asked to list 100 individuals who have given evidence of the reflectiveness and excellence requisite in a justice, Miers' name probably would not have appeared in any of the 10,000 places on those lists.

Excellent point, Mr. Will. But are you mining my posts on FR for material for your columns AGAIN? :-)

To: Chena

This is not jumping the gun. Movement conservatives in the legal world know who would and would not make a good SCOTUS justice. Just ask your friendly local member of the Federalist Society. So, it's not necessarily Ms. Miers that we're down on, it's just the fact that Bush skipped over at least two or three dozen known conservatives with stellar credentials to pick her.

I bet (no, I know) you could have polled a hundred local conservative lawyers wherever you live and not heard a single one of them recommend Ms. Miers. You know this and President Bush knows this, and neither one of you seem to care very much about it. President Bush's lack of interest in qualifications, judicial experience, or the opinions of the conservative legal community is foolish in the extreme.

509 posted on 10/03/2005 10:55:16 PM CDT by bourbon (It's the target that decides whether terror wins.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 498 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]


127 posted on 10/04/2005 8:17:15 PM PDT by bourbon (It's the target that decides whether terror wins.)
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I luv watching it, as Mr Peterman would too, I'm sure! The Bushbots are trying to stop Hurricane Harriett with their sweaty fingers that more often than not can't differentiate between "you're" and "your", "its" and "it's", and "there", "their" and "they're".


130 posted on 10/04/2005 8:18:21 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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"There's a reason things happen."

There's a reason George Will is a columnist for the New York Times.

There's a reason George Bush is President of the United States.


146 posted on 10/04/2005 8:24:06 PM PDT by MikeHu
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That elitist FR doghouse is getting crowded now. Let's see, who have chased in there so far (an incomplete list): Ann Coulter, Pat Buchanan, Joe Farrah, George Will, Rush Limbo, Michael Savage... Others?


147 posted on 10/04/2005 8:24:22 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: jdm

Will's column is eloquent, as always, and brutal. Well argued.

I personally have decided, not that it matters to anyone, that the nomination should be opposed. Chiefly because I agree with Will that this is not a serious nomination on Bush's part.

Granted, she'll probably be confirmed and probably work out. She's probably a fine person. Appears to be smart and to be a hard worker and tough minded. Appears to be pro-life, etc. etc.

I'm even buoyed by the reports that she became a Republican after she became a Christian.

However, bottom line is this:

Just like I don't think it's wise to take a new Christian convert and appoint them to lead a major ministry (because they are not yet solidly grounded), I don't think it's wise to take a recent convert (a decade being "recent" in her long career) conversion to Republican and put her on the Supreme Court. Not when you had so many seasoned qualified rock solid conservatives to choose from.

My opinion.


156 posted on 10/04/2005 8:26:43 PM PDT by News Junkie
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This will get George on every lib TV and radio show. Probably some rep shows too. How important it will make him feel.


164 posted on 10/04/2005 8:29:21 PM PDT by Hattie
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To: jdm
Elitist - n. Anyone who's not a self-satisfied philistine like me.
168 posted on 10/04/2005 8:31:19 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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WOW, a brilliant, powerful and very accurate critique of the President's nomination. No one has said it better.


181 posted on 10/04/2005 8:34:10 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (A Reagan Conservative and mighty proud of it.)
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I can't say that there was anything there that was actually wrong.


185 posted on 10/04/2005 8:35:44 PM PDT by republicofdavis
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If George sWill is against her, I'm for her. He's no conservative.


202 posted on 10/04/2005 8:39:46 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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Conservatism is the belief that the Constitution and the principles of the founders should be preserved. It is not the blind support of George Walker Bush. By signing a bill he knew was unconstitutional, he did the least conservative thing a president could do. The Senate needs to give this President a defeat so they can reclaim their constitutional authority.


203 posted on 10/04/2005 8:39:57 PM PDT by JohnBDay
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Will insists that the Judiciary Committee evaluate Miers' abilities in constitutional reasoning.

Ok. Here is the membership roster for that committee. Which of them are adept at "constitutional reasoning"? Which of them are qualified to make such an evaluation, particularly in light of the trashy legislation that comes out of the Senate?

211 posted on 10/04/2005 8:43:15 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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Senators beginning what ought to be a protracted and exacting scrutiny of Harriet Miers should be guided by three rules. First, it is not important that she be confirmed. Second, it might be very important that she not be. Third, the presumption -- perhaps rebuttable but certainly in need of rebutting -- should be that her nomination is not a defensible exercise of presidential discretion to which senatorial deference is due.

He has flowered my own mindset with rhetorical skill.

He doesn't know for he doesn't know of her yet!

219 posted on 10/04/2005 8:44:42 PM PDT by EGPWS
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Brutal, but right on the money.


248 posted on 10/04/2005 8:53:23 PM PDT by B Knotts
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If anything can derail this trainwreck of a nomination, the argumentation put forth in this column might be it.


256 posted on 10/04/2005 8:57:40 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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I personally think Mr. Will is still smarting from his banishment at the inner circle of Bush, Sr., when he referred to President George Herbert Walker Bush as a lap-dog to President Reagan.

George Will is a legend in his own mind.

299 posted on 10/04/2005 9:14:47 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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He has neither the inclination nor the ability to make sophisticated judgments about competing approaches to construing the Constitution. Few presidents acquire such abilities in the course of their prepresidential careers, and this president, particularly, is not disposed to such reflections

Well excussssssssssssssssssssse me

301 posted on 10/04/2005 9:15:46 PM PDT by Mo1
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George wrote a fine, well-written column. The column was full of acerbic verbal dagger thrusts and high-minded righteous indignation.

But George simply chose not to address the unstated, critical question he implicitly raises.

George, I would also very much like to see well-known giant of strict conservative legal thinking, the current equivalent of a Judge Bork, on the court.

But George, show me the 60 votes, today, for an open, established Scalia clone.

Tell me very specifically who those 60 votes are, and what due diligence you have done to determine how they would vote.

I don’t wan’t to hear platitudes like “well, uh, Bush just needs to exercise leadership!”

And I don’t wan’t to hear “Well, if only we had a better guy than Frist” or “If only we had Toomey instead of Specter.”

Talk to me in terms of the here and now.

And don’t tell me “oh, the Gang of 14 agreement! Didn’t they promise, so sincerely, to put all ideology aside unless in extraordinary circumstances?”

Don’t talk nonsense to me, talk hard-headed realism.

Or, instead, show me the 50 Senate votes for the “nuclear option.”

Keep in mind, having just been through the battles over Pickering, Rogers Brown, Owens, etc., the speculation preceding the Roberts nomination, the selection of Roberts and the Roberts confirmation process, that the White House and the Senate leadership have done extensive due diligence on exactly where each key senator stands, both in terms of what kind of nominee they will confirm and whether they are willing to go nuclear.

But George, if you have better information, then please clue me in.

If you can demonstrate to me that Bush and Frist are just plain wrong, that 60 votes for an established Scalia clone are there for the taking, then I will join the chorus of Bush critics on this nomination.

But if you do not have a realistic basis with which to dispute Bush and Frist on this, then your choices are three:

1. Nominate the established Scalia clone, and face defeat, in what would probably be a protacted and, with the MSM spinning it for all it’s worth, a “humiliating” defeat. For those who say that it would not be a big deal politically to suffer a defeat like that and might even be a good thing, would fire up the base for ’06, well, that’s your opinion; I think you could not be more wrong.

2. Nominate someone with an established record that can hold the RINOS and attract enough Rats to get to 60. Such a person would probably not even be as conservative as O’Connor, and would probably actually move the Court leftward.

3. Nominate a stealth candidate. In this case, the most important factor is that the WH knows this person very well and very directly (no Souters on the recommendation of a friend of a friend, please) and the Rats do not.

Bush chose No. 3.

Your choice?

306 posted on 10/04/2005 9:16:43 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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ok .. I just finished reading this and it has got to be one of the most condescending pieces of snobbiest crap that I've ever read
320 posted on 10/04/2005 9:21:27 PM PDT by Mo1
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When Bush nominated Roberts, I knew nothing about him. After watching him at the hearings, I was convinced. I know nothing about Miers either. I'll watch and listen to the hearings and then decide if I like the nomination or not. My instincts tell me she is no dummy. I gather she is pro life and a pistol owner. She says she believes in the words of the constitution. So far so good as far as I'm concerned. We'll see more soon enough. Right now, I'm with her.
336 posted on 10/04/2005 9:25:55 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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