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Gay Community Still Divided Over 'Outing'
AP ^ | 10/4/5 | DAVID CRARY

Posted on 10/04/2005 12:59:03 PM PDT by SmithL

New York -- Though decried by many gay-rights leaders, "outing" — the practice of exposing secretly gay public figures — is expanding into new terrain as Internet bloggers target congressional staffers, political strategists, even black clergy whose sermons and speeches contain anti-gay rhetoric.

Few issues are as divisive within the gay community. Numerous gay organizations, such as the Human Rights Campaign and the Log Cabin Republicans, staunchly oppose outing, yet many other activists support it when the targets are public figures — or their aides — who work against gay rights or condemn homosexuality.

"It's not the gay thing that's the problem — it's the hypocrisy," said Michael Rogers, creator of a Web log that has been at the fore of several recent outing campaigns. "I'm going to be calling out the politicians who vote against us and work against the interests of the very community they come from."

Christopher Barron, political director of the Log Cabin Republicans, said he understands the anger that activists such as Rogers feel but believes they are wasting their energy.

"Outing is not an effective tool," Barron said. "I don't know a single vote on gay-rights issues that was changed because of outing. ... Folks should be focusing on the hard work that needs to be done and not get bogged down in personal attacks."

Joe Solmonese, president of the Human Rights Campaign, said outing can backfire by distracting attention from more substantive political issues or by prompting conservative politicians to harden their anti-gay views after aides and associates are outed.

Two black gay-rights activists are now taking aim at prominent black pastors who — in the activists' view — have gone too far in assailing homosexuality from their pulpits. . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexualagenda; outing; privacy
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Joe Wilson is outraged.
1 posted on 10/04/2005 12:59:07 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

A golf outing?


2 posted on 10/04/2005 1:02:57 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: SmithL

David Brock is too........


3 posted on 10/04/2005 1:05:01 PM PDT by Red Badger (In life, you don't get what you deserve. You get what you settle for...........)
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Two black gay-rights activists are now taking aim at prominent black pastors who — in the activists' view — have gone too far in assailing homosexuality from their pulpits. . . .

Well, are the pastors gay, or do the gay activists assume that the pastors are gay under the theory that anyone who attacks gays is a closet homo?

4 posted on 10/04/2005 1:05:41 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Red Badger

I don't ask, because I don't care.


5 posted on 10/04/2005 1:06:53 PM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: SmithL

Ahh, yes. The age old practice of calling someone gay if you don't agree with them. So far, these people have been "outed":

George W. Bush
John G. Roberts
Harriet Miers
Rush Hudson Limbaugh III

Feel free to add more.


6 posted on 10/04/2005 1:07:52 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Mindless Bush bashers are just as bad as, if not worse than, mindless Bushbots.)
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Two black gay-rights activists are now taking aim at prominent black pastors who — in the activists' view — have gone too far in assailing homosexuality from their pulpits. . . .

Black people are very, very protective of their own sometimes to the point of paranoia. Bugchasers who are going around trying to destroy prominent black pastors had better watch their backs.

7 posted on 10/04/2005 1:08:17 PM PDT by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Abraham Lincoln
King David
Tinkie Winkie

The above three were featured dancing together on a magazine cover, National Review, I think.


8 posted on 10/04/2005 1:09:34 PM PDT by sine_nomine (Protect the weakest of the weak - the unborn babies.)
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Can we be sure that the threat of outing hasn't affected votes on key issues, such as the Marriage Amendment that went down to crushing defeat in the Senate last year?
9 posted on 10/04/2005 1:10:29 PM PDT by megatherium
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To: sine_nomine

It would not surprise anyone here to find out Tinkie Winkie is a homosexual. He does seem a little "off".


10 posted on 10/04/2005 1:11:50 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: sine_nomine

Spongebob Squarepants


11 posted on 10/04/2005 1:14:18 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: SmithL

The assumption is that a person who may have homosexual inclinations, or even acts on them in moments of weakness, cannot speak out against gay marriage or the pro-gay political and social agenda without being a hypocrite. This is a non-sequiter, just as it would be a non-sequiter to assume that it is hypocritical for a recovering alcoholic to speak out for stronger drunk driving laws. Political views should be based on reason and principal, not inclination.


12 posted on 10/04/2005 1:16:00 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Condoleeza Rice?


13 posted on 10/04/2005 1:27:28 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem !)
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To: Kryptonite

Richard Simmons


14 posted on 10/04/2005 1:28:15 PM PDT by fahraint (git thar fuhstest with the mostest)
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To: Kryptonite

He was watching porn (a pink/female anemone dancing) on TV when Gary confronted him. Plus, he seems to have a thing for Sandy.


15 posted on 10/04/2005 1:32:53 PM PDT by Killborn (God bless the rescuers, God bless the Commander in Chief, and God bless America.)
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Spongebob Squarepants

Definitely.


16 posted on 10/04/2005 1:47:24 PM PDT by T.Smith
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To: Sam the Sham

Explains why MLK succeeded.


17 posted on 10/04/2005 1:49:00 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: Spirited

Meaning ?


18 posted on 10/04/2005 1:54:32 PM PDT by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: Killborn

I don't know, but Sandy seems a bit "butch" to me.


19 posted on 10/04/2005 1:56:15 PM PDT by dfwgator (Flower Mound, TX)
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To: dfwgator

She may be a tomboy (a very buff one at that) but not all toms are homos.


20 posted on 10/04/2005 2:00:02 PM PDT by Killborn (President Bush is not President Reagan. Then again, President Reagan isn't President Washington.)
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