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Rush Limbaugh: Why Do We Have To Play Games?
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 10/3/05 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 10/03/2005 5:19:12 PM PDT by wagglebee

RUSH: Here's the president this morning in the Oval Office, a portion of his remarks on the White House counsel Harriet Miers' nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court.

BUSH: Over the past five years I've spoken clearly to the American people about the qualities I look for in a Supreme Court justice. A justice must be a person of accomplishment and sound legal judgment. A justice must be a person of fairness and unparalleled integrity, and a justice must strictly apply the Constitution and laws of the United States and not legislate from the bench.

RUSH: You're going to hear a lot of people say, "What about her judicial philosophy? He nominates somebody without knowing what their judicial philosophy is." That's one of the reasons that Reagan nominated sitting judges. It's not to say the president does not know what her judicial philosophy is. She is a lawyer, and as such she may have a judicial philosophy, and if she does, he probably knows what it is. But there's no record of it for the rest of us to know. Which includes the Democrats. They're going to have to go out there and dig deep. And make no mistake about one thing. Even though we've got Democrats out there saying favorable things, or at least non-negative things right now, make no mistake about the fact that they probably already hired their investigators, they're out there doing their opposition research, and left-wing groups are on the trail and they're going to dig up as much dirt on this woman as they can, unless their investigation is, "Wow, did we dodge a bullet here. This is exactly what we're looking for," and just mount token opposition for their fund-raising efforts on the left. Okay, we've confirmed Vice President Cheney will lead off the next hour, he'll be here at 1:06 when we kick off the next hour of the program. Here's more from the president on Harriet Miers as a pioneer.

BUSH: Harriet became a pioneer in the field of law. Breaking down barriers to women that remained a generation after President Reagan appointed Justice O'Connor to the Supreme Court. Harriet was the first woman to be hired at one of Dallas' top law firms, the first woman to become president of that firm, the first woman to lead a large law firm in the state of Texas. Harriet also became the first woman president of the Dallas Bar Association, and the first woman elected president of the State Bar of Texas.

RUSH: Here is Harriet Miers herself after she has been chosen.

HARRIET MIERS: From my early days as a clerk in the federal district court and throughout almost three decades of legal practice, bar service, and community service, I have always had a great respect and admiration for the genius that inspired our constitution and our system of government. My respect and admiration have only grown over these past five years that you have allowed me to serve the American people as a representative of the executive branch. The wisdom of those who drafted our Constitution and conceived our nation as functioning with three strong and independent branches have proven truly remarkable. It is the responsibility of every generation to be true to the founders' vision of the proper role of the courts in our society.

RUSH: That's exactly right. The Constitution is made up of words. Those words were specifically chosen. Those words were not the result of throwing it up against the wall and seeing what looks good. These words in the Constitution were specifically chosen, and if she has a devotion to the words of the Constitution, as she seems to here, then that's a plus, even though there's no way of actually knowing. A lot of people are going to be commenting on this, folks, and a lot of people who thought they had influence with the White House, a lot of people who thought they had influence with the selection process are now going to be let down and disappointed, thinking that they were not listened to. It's going to run the gamut. The thing that you have to remember here is that we just don't know, other than what we are told by the president, if you want to place faith and trust in the president, as you always have, then you should have no problem here. If you do think that there were known quantities out there in terms of judges that we'd have no question about who might face a tougher confirmation battle, but still confirmation -- that's what this is all about, the 20-year battle, 30-year battle to get to this point to reshape the direction of the court, particularly as the court has evolved as a political institution in this country, that must change. And we also know, this is another concern that I have.

You can look at Justice Kennedy. Justice Kennedy was the replacement for Robert Bork. And it was well assumed then that he was pretty much like Judge Bork, not nearly as fiery or as combative, but in terms of judicial philosophy, pretty much like Judge Bork. What happens is, you know, Washington is still a culture that's dominated by the left, both politically and socially, as well as the media. That's one area of the country where they're still dominant. And so the people who live there fall under that pressure. And if you care about what the Washington Post style section says about you, if you care about what the New York Times editorial page or Washington Post editorial page says about you, then you can find yourself growing or you can find yourself evolving to positions to get that kind of praise and credit. And this is a fear that a lot of people have when an unknown quantity is sent up. These judges are all the time invited to appear at various legal conferences abroad and throughout the country. They're invited to appear, their self-worth enhances their self-image, and their desire to be taken seriously by the elites who determine who's good and who's bad, which goes on in Washington, those kinds of pressures are brought to bear. So when a nominee comes up about whom very little is known, these natural fears surface, "Oh, no, the pressures of Washington, what are they going to be on this nominee?" You don't have those questions so much with a known quantity.

I mention all this to you to help you put all the comments that you're going to have and hear from people from now until the end of this confirmation process in a little bit of perspective. And if you hear anything out there, I don't care what pundit or talking head says anything, and where, and if you have a question about it, call me and we'll do our best to talk our way through this and make sense of some of the criticisms. Some of the criticism is oriented in fear and some of that is genuine. There is some skepticism and there's some downright anger out there over this, and there are a host reasons for all of that. Here's Chuck Schumer. By the way, Chuck Schumer was appearing at a Capitol Hill news conference today. Was asked by a reporter, "Do you have a theory for why the president didn't choose a person further to the right?" Now, that question goes to the heart of my only real problem with this and that is the pick seems to come from a position of weakness. So we have a nominee that a reporter already said, "Well, this is not a conservative, what do you think about that, Senator Schumer?"

SCHUMER: I think they realize that the extreme wing of their party's views are not close to the American people's views. I think they're beginning to realize it's one of the reasons they have problems in their second term, and yet they couldn't choose an avowed moderate. That's why probably Consuelo Callahan was not chosen. So they chose someone with not very much of a discernable record, and that's what they did with John Roberts as well.

RUSH: I think they realized the extreme wing of their party's views are not close to the American people's. Senator Schumer, have you looked at a map? Have you looked at an electoral map of the country lately? Do you really think, sir, that your views are the mainstream today? You couldn't be more mistaken. This is why fear of these people just infuriates me. It just rubs me the wrong way. These people are in the process, after 20 years of being neutered, they're being -- now, maybe not in Washington, maybe if you live and work and breathe in Washington, you still get the sense that they run the show -- but you go out around the country, and you go out around all these red states, even to some of the blue state areas, there's no love for the Democrats, there's no wish the Democrats were back in power. There's no general consensus out there, particularly among Republicans, that Bush has screwed up. There's no consensus that Bush has bollixed everything here and it's all lost and it's all over. That's what the mainstream press and liberal critics want you to believe.

They think they've been successful at that but they haven't been. They no more have any idea how to read the hearts and minds of the American people than somebody who doesn't live here does. And yet they apparently get away with defining the firms under which they will participate and so forth, and I just cringe at that. You know, they didn't win the election, they don't get to choose this, they don't get to determine the outcome of these choices. They get to participate in the vote, but as the minority, if they lose, that's tough toenails. That's why we're even going through silly moments where the left is trying to redefine minority. We always talk about minority rights. "We can't forget the minority." That's simply because they can't forget the fact that they've lost, they can't believe it, they want to try to redefine the fact that they have lost, into meaning that they've actually won. So in one sense, it's a missed opportunity. In the other sense, could be the most brilliant stealth pick that has ever been made. That's just it, we won't know for quite a while. Josie in Cincinnati, you're next, great to have you on the EIB Network. Hello.

CALLER: Mega dittos, Rush.

RUSH: Thank you.

CALLER: I'm hoping you can help me out. I'm so frustrated. The frustration for me lies in having to guess. You know, the people that elected President Bush, we are proud, blatant conservatives, and we would like him to nominate a proud, blatant conservative to the bench. Why the guessing game? It's as if we didn't win.

RUSH: He may have. He may have nominated here a very proud conservative.

CALLER: But why guess? Why not give the people the chance to rally again behind a proud, blatant conservative?

RUSH: Now, what I'm hearing you say is that you're not necessarily filled with trust or faith that the president has chosen someone that he knows you would want.

CALLER: Well, that's true. I mean every decision kind of makes me wonder. I mean, I voted for President Bush, Rush, and I'd do it again because of a conservative you don't make a decision and then not give it the resources to succeed, but, you know, can he reciprocate a little bit? That's, you know, like where's the love?

RUSH: I appreciate your call, Josie. I have to run. By the way, let me deal with this right up -- give me Tracy from Carlisle, Pennsylvania, next, so I can deal with it right before we go to the break. Hi, Tracy, welcome to the program. Great to have you with us.

CALLER: Hi, Rush. Thanks for taking my call.

RUSH: You bet.

CALLER: I heard today that Harriet Mier gave money to the Bill Clinton campaign and the Al Gore campaign, and that just really concerns me.

RUSH: First -- she didn't give money to Clinton, that was an error. There was somebody, that was a Harris Myers that gave 250 bucks to Clinton down in Dallas also but it was not Harriet Miers. Harriet Miers gave money to Gore, gave money to Lloyd Bentsen, gave money to the Democrat National Committee, when she ran this law firm. I wouldn't worry about these donations at all, folks. She hasn't contributed to a Democrat since 1994. She made these donations when she was running this law firm. You never know. These may have been business donations. Many corporations, law firms, donate to both sides, just to cover their bases. You never know who's going to win. You have to deal with the winners. It's probably no more than that. Don't get all concerned about that. That's sort of a sidetrack issue. It's not going to give you too much of an indication about where the woman is now politically or what her judicial philosophy is. So, Tracy, thanks for the call.

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RUSH: Sandy in Springfield, Illinois. You're next, welcome to the program.

CALLER: Yes. I am very comfortable with the nomination. First, listening to what President Bush said, but also I decided, you know, the measure of a person is oftentimes their own words, so I flipped over to C-SPAN to see if they had anything on. And they actually had Harriet Miers speaking before the National Republican Association of Lawyers, and they had a segment on -- I didn't get to listen to it all -- but the segment they played, she was defending Janice Rogers Brown and Patricia Owen and Mr. Gonzales, and the two women that have been nominated for positions on courts, and they have not even had an up-or-down vote. She first of all ran through their qualifications, gave her whole-hearted support, and really was calling for them to be able to have an up-and-down vote, and was indicating that this is part of the constitutional process, and she was very, very strong in her articulation of this type of thing, and you can tell that she's had years of experience as a litigator, she was very analytical, very sharp, and I'm thinking, you know, a woman who has been a trail blazer like this to be the first president of a prestigious law firm, she has been elected by her peers -- it's my understanding -- I think I got this right, to a national office in the Bar Association, and she was elected I think as president of the Texas Bar Association. This woman may be a dark horse to the rest of us, but I don't think she is to George Bush, and I think as president, one thing he has shown us, you know, he may have some weaknesses, I don't agree with everything that he's done, but he is very good at picking good, strong people to surround himself with. And I don't think he's gone wrong here.

RUSH: All right, well, I appreciate your point of View, Sandy. There is something to be said for this. I know a lot of people, there's something to be said here for the stealth nature. A lot of people remember, a lot of Republicans, that contingent from Maine, Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe, running around saying, "The Bush pick better be right here or I can't say I will support the pick." There's a lot we don't know, folks, and remember one of my theories and themes: there's a lot we don't know. And one of the things we don't know could well be that the White House has figured out that they don't want the filibuster fight because they don't want to lose it, and they don't want to lose a great pick and don't want to lose a great nominee, and the idea is to get somebody on the court that they trust and that is in the image of what the president has said, and one way of doing it is this, another way, John Roberts. The point is it always still goes back to, we won the elections. We did everything we were told to do, got people educated, got them to the polls, we won the elections, and now we still have to play games, we still have to fake and juke out the left, rather than just, "Okay, here's who we are, this is our nominee, this is the person or people that we want to be on the Supreme Court, these are the people we love, these are the people we trust," with no guessing game, and no roll of the dice. It always just still to me comes back to that.


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To: Huck
I mean the only ones with decent things to say about this pick had names like Schumer and Reid.

Dr. James Dobson is thrilled about Bush's choice...

21 posted on 10/03/2005 5:43:29 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: wagglebee

GHWB Sununu who I have alot less faith in then Rove or Cheney. Besides Bush has known Miers for 20+ years GHWB didn't know Souter from Adam.


22 posted on 10/03/2005 5:44:47 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: wagglebee

All of this may be good and well, but this scares the schitt outta me. If this turns out to be another Kennedy or Souter, I am done with this b.s., I fought too hard the last 6 years to watch one decision screw us up. Holy crap. look at the map again Mr. President, don't look at the voting totals, look at the map. All you have to do is lead them, they will follow. Stealthy candidates only weaken the base's resolve to call, write and stand up and fight.

How do you fight for a Kennedy or Souter? You don't because we did'nt "know" who they were...we did know who Bork was,. he was ahead of his time. We needed another Bork before the Senate committee and make the dems blow their last wad on him. Plus, get the base energized to fight the fight for him or her.


23 posted on 10/03/2005 5:47:37 PM PDT by Shaka
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To: latina4dubya

"I mean the only ones with decent things to say about this pick had names like Schumer and Reid." <--cowpie

Gingerich, Hewitt, and the one who's opinion means something to me, Jay Sekulow,to name a few.


24 posted on 10/03/2005 5:48:18 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: latina4dubya

Better make sure he's not on the payroll.


25 posted on 10/03/2005 5:48:42 PM PDT by Huck ("If people are disappointed, they have every reason to be." Mark Levin on GW's latest lame move.)
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To: Huck

Dude, Bush can do no wrong. And if you want to criticize a single one of his actions, you should go back where you came from: DU, you Communist


26 posted on 10/03/2005 5:50:27 PM PDT by Sometimes A River ("The leaves have broken on Lake Ponktran" - WKAT 1360 AM Miami Newsreader)
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To: libertarianben

That's the sort-of-accepted story of Souter; that Warren Rudman advocated on his behalf to John Sununu, who then did the same to President Bush the Elder. Sununu famously said that Souter was a sure thing, or home-run for conservatives. So Bush made the worst mistake of his Presidency and listened to Sununu, when good judges like Emilio Garza were available.

Rudman apparently brags about this deception in a book he wrote.

Of course it could be that Bush knew Souter was a liberal, and that he wasn't deceived at all as he secretly opposed giving the Court a conservative majority (which it eventually and finally would have had for a brief window of time until Byron White retired a couple of years later). I believe Bush was still defending his pick yrs after he left office, but that could just be the natural instinct of not wanting to admit a mistake.


27 posted on 10/03/2005 5:51:27 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: wagglebee

Bush chose an unknown because he felt it was the only way to avoid a messy confirmation battle with a possible filibuster.

There is a difference between the cases you cite and this case. Bush has known Miers personally for a decade. They have worked closely together in a variety of tasks in all that time. So Bush has an understanding of her outlook on a person-to-person level that didn't exist in the Kennedy and O'Conner situations. Conservatives should take that into account before they denouce the choice.


28 posted on 10/03/2005 5:52:24 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Jeanine Pirro for Senate, Hillary Clinton for Weight Watchers Spokeswoman)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Concerning Miss Miers, there ain't nothin for us to do now but wait and see, is there? What's the point of making a fuss? I don't see anything bad here.

That's what I like about Bush. He is pushing more and more Republicans to be a moderate. Wait and see. Isn't that what moderates do?

Conservatism is based on the principal that everything is either right or wrong, good or bad, up or down. From first glance.

When someone or something is put out there that cannot be identified as good or bad, right or wrong then there is smoke and mirrors happening. The first rule of investing is never invest in something you don't know about or understand, yet many Republicans will invest in this SCOTUS nominee not knowing or understanding truly what she is.

There is some positing that this nominee is a throw away. OH? The President nominated someone to throw away? OR may it's like CFR. Yeah, sign that bill cause the Supremes would overturn it.

If you look closely at this President, you'll find a couple of things. First, while he may be a believer, his church that nourishes his faith is mainstream, even liberal. Secondly, look very closely at some of the things he has advanced. Many are from global worldview. His border initiatives are a good example. His policy between Israel and the Palistinians is another. Even in Iraq, we've given up if we even had designs to begin with, of having a non Muslim government in place. How can peace thrive in that type of environment.

So after writing this, some will say I'm Buchanan like. Far from it. I'm an admitted moderate. But I have an understanding of what social conservatives believe. And this President, depsite social conservatives deepest desires, is not what he has been sold to the social conservative movement.

I read somewhere on this forum earlier today that big business has more of the Presidents ear than does social conservatives. I believe that's true.

In addition, many social conservatives are now saying lets wait and see during the confirmation process. If this process is the same as the John Roberts process, what additional will be learned. Roberts confirmation was purposely designed to be stealth. Will this one be different?

29 posted on 10/03/2005 5:53:04 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: Clintonfatigued
Did bush 1 really make a mistake when he nominated Souter.

I think he nominated exactly the kind of person he wanted.

This is the kind of nomination W wants in the mold of his fathers nomination.

The bottom line is W is a politician and as such being also a methodist like hillary has no soul to speak of.

Therefore no principles no matter what you believe.

30 posted on 10/03/2005 5:53:26 PM PDT by dts32041 ( Robin Hood, stealing from the government and giving back to tax payer. Where is he today?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Thank you. You have nailed it. GWB personally knows this person. It is not like he is guessing. It is almost like: "hey, I'm taking a chance with Roberts, but I know this Woman".


31 posted on 10/03/2005 5:55:20 PM PDT by TheHound (You would be paranoid too - if everyone was out to get you.)
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To: wagglebee

With this pick it is apparent that the president has run out of political capital and is mortgaging the White House.


32 posted on 10/03/2005 5:56:09 PM PDT by Rockitz (Geena YES, Hill NO!)
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To: wagglebee
I think he did what he had to do. Remember, we have Northeast RINO's who will switch sides and blow all chances of getting a good pick. Time will tell but if my hunch is right the RATS have been bamboozled.
33 posted on 10/03/2005 5:57:15 PM PDT by John Lenin (The RATS trolls on this site are stuck on stupid)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I am absolutely NOT DENOUNCING Miers, I trust Bush on his choice. But there is some natural skepticism when there were so many other potential nominees (many of them women) who are "known constructionists" and I just hope Bush didn't decide to do this just to avoid a fight. Rush also offered another possible scenario.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1496071/posts


34 posted on 10/03/2005 5:57:54 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: latina4dubya
Dr. James Dobson is thrilled about Bush's choice...

So are the ACLJ and the Priests For Life.

35 posted on 10/03/2005 5:59:30 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Don't Get Stuck On Stupid!" - Lieutenant General Russell "Ragin' Cajun" Honore)
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To: dts32041

And I should take your word for all of this, of course.


36 posted on 10/03/2005 6:00:04 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (I'm just sitting here on the Group W bench.)
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To: Acts 2:38

Sorry. I went to the dentist today, and wasn't allowed to drink kool-aid afterwards for several hours. I think I'm better now. Brilliant move by the consummate poker player, George W. Bush! Thank God the grown-ups are in charge! Huzzah!!


37 posted on 10/03/2005 6:00:56 PM PDT by Huck ("If people are disappointed, they have every reason to be." Mark Levin on GW's latest lame move.)
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To: wagglebee

I'm glad we have Rush out there to articulate the Conservative view point in stark, unfliching, agressive terms.
However, when it comes to "real world" politics most of his suggestions are laughable.


38 posted on 10/03/2005 6:01:24 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: Huck

"Last time it was just Coulter and a few others. People said "If Mark Levin likes him, that's good enough for me." Others said Roberts was just a prelude for the REAL fight, which would be the second nominee (even though that never made any sense.) So here we are, and it's not just Coulter this time. It's also Levin, and Rush (which de facto means Hannity must be in the same boat,) Malkin, Kristol, Frum. I mean the only ones with decent things to say about this pick had names like Schumer and Reid."

Bless you Huck. I was just thinking of all the vitriol heaped on Ann Coulter because she dared say something negative about Bush. This time, she has good company. Those who used Levin before will have to now find other excuses for blindly supporting Bush's blatant act of cronyism or is it affirmative action or maybe it's both.


39 posted on 10/03/2005 6:02:09 PM PDT by Cautor
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To: wagglebee

"Natural skepticism" is one thing and a characteristic that we all should have. But we are seeing some irrational high speed wobbling going on here today. It's just plain foolish. There is absolutely no reason for this kind of hand-wringing doom and gloom attitude. Leave that to the Dimlycrats. They have no hope anyway so who would want to be like them?


40 posted on 10/03/2005 6:03:31 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (I'm just sitting here on the Group W bench.)
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