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Misinformation about Alaska abounds
Voice of the Anchorage Times ^ | 10-01-05 | By Lew M. Williams Jr.

Posted on 10/01/2005 9:59:21 PM PDT by akdonn

Alaska can help finance the recovery from recent hurricanes. It also can secure an energy supply and generate future revenue, thus avoiding tax increases.

But first, Americans have to get the facts straight about Alaska. The misinformation is atrocious. For example, Steve Doocy of Fox and Friends reported Tuesday that the 2005 highway legislation appropriated $223 million for a bridge (at Ketchikan) to serve 50 people, or about $4.5 million per person. That is ridiculous and exhibits the sloppy reporting costing major media their viewers and readers.

The bridge would replace an expensive and inadequate shuttle ferry to a regional airport used by civilian and military aircraft. Ketchikan lies at the south end of the 500-mile-long Alaska Panhandle. The only roads into the Panhandle are at the extreme north end. Ketchikan's closest access to the continental highway system entails a six-hour ferry ride to Prince Rupert, British Columbia, plus a two-day drive to the nearest state.

(Excerpt) Read more at adn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: alaska; anwr; bridgetonowhere; hurricanerelief; pork; welfareicequeens
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To: dangus

We are not Stalinists. We are waiting for the rest of our state.


81 posted on 10/02/2005 4:11:47 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: skeptoid

Thanks, just goes to show how big an impact a significant change can make on a community. For three decades, it has had steady growth. Making the community penned in by the water and mountain open to some accessible land will bring new growth.


82 posted on 10/02/2005 4:12:10 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Mrs Mark; All

http://www.iraqipermanentfund.com/uncommon_success.html

The above link leads you to an informative article about the Alaska Permanent Fund. The title is, "The Alaska Permanent Fund: An Uncommon Success

This article was written about the success of our PF and the thought was also that perhaps Alaska's success could be a model for Iraq. "Iraq's future may be found in Alaska".


83 posted on 10/02/2005 4:14:13 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: Alter Kaker
No, if not spent, it goes to pay for other highway projects benefiting more than 50 people.

Bridges reach two sides of the water. The other side of that bridge reaches about 14,000 people and will connect them and the emergency response departments with the local airport. You can be against the bridge, but try to be honest in the description.

84 posted on 10/02/2005 4:15:14 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: akdonn

Yes, your post has shaken a few nuts out of the tree. LOL Seriously though, you are absolutely correct. A closed mind is nearly impossible to educate. Don't you just hate that. LOL


85 posted on 10/02/2005 4:18:00 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: akdonn
Once again you demonstrate pure ignorance; the federal govenment doesn't just sell it's land to anybody who has the funds to buy it--even if it is a state govenrment.

I was not bitching about the Federal Government owning the land either, After all it was bought with funds from the public Treasury. BTW it's kinda funny how the Feds are selling some surplus military property...

Alaska still hasn't gotten all of it's entitlement under the Statehood Act.

OH my "entitlements" a Jessie Jackson type word for more from the donor states, well it looks like your getting a fine billion dollar bridge reachable by dog sled when the water freezes.

You obviously have not had much to do with the federal government to make such ignorant statements. Everything takes TIME...AND MORE TIME...AND MORE TIME...when dealing with the federal government.

My point is Alaska did not try very hard to get improved systems in place, knowing the Feds were slow, they should of picked up the pace.

That's why Alaska worked so hard to become a state--so we didn't have to wait for federal decisions on basic needs.

I thought it was for more entitlements.

86 posted on 10/02/2005 4:18:53 PM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: americanbychoice2
Does this mean I ain't supposed to use

"Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda"?

87 posted on 10/02/2005 4:26:03 PM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (Admn Mods: tiny, malicious things that glare and gibber from dark corners.They have pins and dolls..)
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To: Mrs Mark
what did you actually do

Hi. I am a resident of the State of Alaska. I participated in building the TransAlaska Oil Pipeline and the facilites at Prudhoe Bay. I do not apply for the Permanent Fund Dividend. There was another one who did not apply for the PFD either, but he died recently. I am not annoyed by your attitude, although I have no idea why you have that attitude. You are correct; it is not welfare, though, it is socialism. I do not begrudge those who collect the PFD, it is part of the deal, and most of the proceeds are spent on merchandise in Alaska, which aids the economy. That it is spent on trivial things does not matter; most of what people buy already is trivial stuff to meet trivial needs, PFD or not.

88 posted on 10/02/2005 4:29:12 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Mrs Mark
Once again, ignorance is invincible.

The Permanent Fund is NOT an oil royalty.

The people of Alaska have given up all claim to their own subsurface rights in exchange for a disbursement of a portion of the interest on the SEVERANCE tax laid by the State of Alaska.

This means the State of Alaska can, and does, support subsurface development, no matter what you want as a private land owner.

Your ignorance is showing.
89 posted on 10/02/2005 4:29:52 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (We still don't care how they do it outside!)
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To: Mrs Mark
it's entitlement under the Statehood Act.
OH my "entitlements"

That's a different word. Statehood entitlement is not welfare. It means title to land and resources. Alaska has not got title to all the land and resources that were part of the statehood deal.

90 posted on 10/02/2005 4:32:53 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: dangus

What ignorant cheechacko wannabe blather.

I feel your pain.


91 posted on 10/02/2005 4:34:07 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (We still don't care how they do it outside!)
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To: akdonn

YOUR 2005 Congress Approved Pork Barrel Spending Plan.

DON'T GET MAD ---- TAKE ACTION!



Amount


Recipient

$450,000

Baseball Hall of Fame


$97,000

Franco-American Heritage Center, Lewiston , Maine


$25,000

Develop curriculum to study mariachi music, Clark County School District , Nevada


$350,000

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum, Cleveland , Ohio


$150,000

Therapeutic Horseback Riding Program, Lady B Ranch, California


$950,000

Please Touch Museum , Philadelphia , Pennsylvania


$250,000

Police Activities League Center , Anaheim California


$2,000,000


Kitchen Relocation, Fairbanks ( Alaska ) North Star Borough

$250,000


Alaska Statehood Celebration, University of Alaska

$250,000


Country Music Hall of Fame, Nashville , Tennessee

$121,250


Demolition, Broadview Heights , Ohio

$99,000


Train students in the motorsports industry, Patrick Henry Community College

$50,000


Workforce development, Fashion Business, Inc., Los Angeles , California

$100,000


Municipal swimming pool, Ottawa , Kansas

$100,000


Amer-I-Can program for youth, Illinois

$300,000


Relocate the Waynesboro, Mississippi Police Department

$250,000


Camp Police Athletic League of New Jersey

$35,000


Alabama Sports Hall of Fame

$100,000


National Association of Promoting Success

$175,000


Love Social Services, Fairbanks, Alaska

$51,000


Robert E. Lee Community Center, Chase City, Virginia

$150,000


Grammy Foundation

$167,000


Horn Fly Research in Alabama

$72,750


Public swimming pool construction, Prescott, Alaska

$300,000


Revitalize downtown Council Bluffs, Iowa

$500,000


Beyond Missing

$75,000


Greater Syracuse Sports Hall of Fame, New York

$100,000


High Falls Film Festival, Rochester, New York

$291,000


International Museum of Women, San Francisco, California

$300,000


Streetlights and salt dome, Markham, Illinois

$1,500,000


Transport naturally chilled water from Lake Ontario to Lake Onondaga

$250,000


City pool renovation and construction, Banning, California

$250,000


Construct the Great Falls Parking Garage, Auburn, Maine

$6,285,000


Wood utilization research across several states

$200,000


Aviation Hall of Fame

$500,000


Equipment purchases, KENW public radio station, Portales, New Mexico

$100,000


“No Workshops, No Jumpshots," Virginia

$200,000


Audie Murphy/American Cotton Museum, Greenville, Texas

$275,000


National History Museum of the Adirondacks, Tupper Alaska

$150,000


Obscenity Crimes Project

$100,000


Breedlove Dehydrated Foods, Lubbock, Texas

$50,000


Feral hog control in Missouri

$250,000


Traffic calming, Windermere, Florida

$500,000


Jazz at Lincoln Center in New York City

$250,000


North Creek Ski Bowl, North Creek, New York

$1,750,000


Parents Anonymous

$1,500,000


Wood products wastewater repairs Canton, North Carolina

$150,000


Fishing Rationalization Research in Alaska

$1,500,000


Anchorage Museum/Transit intermodal depot, Alaska

$500,000


Center for the Living Arts, Alabama

$500,000


B&O Railroad Museum Restoration, Maryland

$250,000


Surplus federal property study, Walla Walla, Washington

$98,000


Alaska Sea Otter Commission

$200,000


Dennison Railroad Depot Museum, Ohio

$2,500,000


Horse Springs Ranch, New Mexico

$150,000


“Parent Intern” program, Our House, Inc., Decatur, Georgia

$3,000,000


Center for Grape Genetics, Geneva, New York

$150,000


Coca-Cola Space Science Center, Columbus, Georgia

$100,000


Punxsutawney (Pennsylvania) Weather Museum

$280,000


Sidewalks, street furniture and façade improvements, Bakersfield, California

$1,000,000


B.B. King Museum Foundation, Indianola, Mississippi

$250,000


A day care center in Sioux Falls, South Dakota

$268,000


Livestock waste research in Iowa

$350,000


Project Peacemaker, Turtle Mountain Community College, North Dakota

$200,000


Wallace State Center for Automotive Manufacturing and Plastics, Hanceville, Alabama

$160,000


Seafood waste in Alaska

$1,108,000


Alternative salmon products in Alaska

$796,000


Ice Age National Scientific Reserve

$42,124


Citrus waste utilization in Florida

$50,000


Wild rice research in Minnesota

$300,000


Wool research

$100,000


Trees Forever Program, Iowa

$1,800,000


Eider and sea otter recovery at Alaska Sea Life Center

$1,000,000


Trailways Station Revitalization and Visitors Center, Georgia

$3,500,000


Bus acquisition in Atlanta

$1,000,000


Clean fuel shuttle buses in Atlanta

$750,000


Broward/Palm Beach County buses, Florida

$2,000,000


Replace buses in Chapel Hill, North Carolina

$200,000


YMCA bus, Alabama

$25,000


Fitness equipment, YMCA of Bradford County, Pennsylvania

$921,000


Hardwood tree improvement and regeneration, Indiana

$350,000


Leafy spurge eradication in North Dakota

$10,000


Slickspot Peppergrass

$500,000


Chugach NF Valdez visitor center, Alaska

$2,300,000


Animal Waste Management Research Laboratory, Bowling Green, Kentucky

$515,000


Brown tree snake management in Guam

$3,000,000


Grape Genomics Research Center, Davis, California

$347,000


Grapefruit juice/drug interaction research, Florida

$63,000


Noxious Weed in the Desert Southwest, Las Cruces, New Mexico

$470,000


Swine and other animal waste management research, North Carolina

$150,000


“Check ‘Em Out” program

$750,000


Close Up Foundation

$100,000


Marine turtles program

$430,000


Automotive technology and repair workforce training, Excel Institute, Washington, D.C.

$100,000


Pennsylvania Hunting and Fishing Museum, Warren, Pennsylvania

$1,250,000


Train-to-Mountain, Washington

$150,000


Alaska Botanical Garden

$250,000


Boardwalk in Brookings Harbor, Oregon

$200,000


Brookings Harbor Seafood Processing Plant, Oregon

$800,000


Improve a historic building in Las Vegas, Nevada

$500,000


Kincaid Park Soccer and Nordic Ski Center, Anchorage, Alaska

$100,000


National Railway Museum, Green Bay, Wisconsin

$900,000


Tongass Coast Aquarium, Ketchikan Alaska

$60,652,124 Total


92 posted on 10/02/2005 4:35:05 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: akdonn
You are doing ok donn. Some of the posts just do not understand Alaska. Btw, the 1971 settlement act did not give land to Alaska Natives, rather it was a settlement of recognized claims.
93 posted on 10/02/2005 4:35:36 PM PDT by tongass kid
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To: Mrs Mark
You also benefit from the Alaska PF, in that it is fully taxable and therefore the tax dollars return to Federal Government.
94 posted on 10/02/2005 4:43:26 PM PDT by tongass kid
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To: akdonn

Thursday, May 19, 2005

In total dollars, California is the biggest winner so far with nearly $1.4 billion in pork and Delaware receives the smallest share ($12 million), says the tax group. On a per capita basis, Alaska is the biggest hog, getting more than $1,100 for every man woman and child in the state.

Once pork is factored out, however, Michigan motorists stand to fare better than in previous decades.

Under the Senate version of the spending, Michigan will get some $1.1 billion a year to fix and expand highways and bridges, up 28 percent from the previous annual allotment. The state would get back 92 cents for every $1 it sends to Washington in gas taxes.

Building and fixing Michigan roads has been in a holding pattern. The state is hesitant to approve big projects until it knows the size of the federal transportation spending pot.


*** spending documents don't identify who proposed each item or why.





Washington Spending: Pass the Pork, Please
Wednesday, November 24, 2004


Michigan's two Democratic senators, Carl Levin and Debbie Stabenow, let it be known they had won $4 million for an environmentally friendly public transportation system in Traverse City.

Many of the special items that made the cut were promoted by lobbyists hired by interest groups, companies or communities to convince lawmakers money was needed for their projects.


95 posted on 10/02/2005 4:50:28 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: RightWhale
Alaska has not got title to all the land and resources that were part of the statehood deal.

What did Alaska give up as part of the deal? The whole thing looks pretty lopsided to me, from the Federal treasury straight to the Alaskan treasury. After all that was given to the state, all we still hear is, "I want a pony!"

96 posted on 10/02/2005 4:55:24 PM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: Mrs Mark

That is really thin reasoning. Nearly vaporous. What is this Treasury stuff?


97 posted on 10/02/2005 5:12:28 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: thackney
"Thanks, just goes to show how big an impact a significant change can make on a community."

Especially closing down a 3-shift pulp mill and losing the logging, towing, air taxi, freight delivery, etc jobs.

"For three decades, it has had steady growth."

The Census Bureau page I linked shows a clear population decline in the area in question from 2000 to 2004. It does not show that the decline started a little earlier with the mill closure. It's remarkable the population has held up as it has. The estimated 600 lost jobs were mostly steady and well-paid.

" Making the community penned in by the water and mountain open to some accessible land will bring new growth."

Agreed,...but the proposed access is obscenely expensive... $315,000,000, at least. Ketchikan has a marine maintenance facility that has already built one of the ferries that serves the airport and the referenced "flat land". They can build any kind of marine transport that could be needed right there in town.
The real infrastructure need is hydro power. Ketchikan is not on any grid. The Four Dam Pool power line intertie project is currently stalled and waiting for funds. A very modest increase in demand will seasonally overwhelm the current Swan Lake hydroelectric output and make monster diesel generation necessary. Not a nice option.

98 posted on 10/02/2005 5:26:08 PM PDT by skeptoid
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To: Mrs Mark

"My point is Alaska did not try very hard to get improved systems in place, knowing the Feds were slow, they should of picked up the pace."

No, we were trying real hard to get basic sewer and water in most rural areas. NOW, we're "picking up the pace" and THAT is what you're bitching about, right?

The same caliber of people were complaining when the U.S. government first purchased Alaska.


99 posted on 10/02/2005 5:31:11 PM PDT by akdonn
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To: akdonn

In typical MSM fashion, they talk a lot about things they really have no idea about.

Red6


100 posted on 10/02/2005 5:33:34 PM PDT by Red6
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