Isn't it highly illegal for members of a Grand Jury to talk about their deliberations? If this guy is who he says he is, isn't he admitting that he himself is committing a crime? And a former LEO? Something doesn't smell right here.
1 posted on
09/30/2005 7:35:07 PM PDT by
anymouse
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2 posted on
09/30/2005 7:36:54 PM PDT by
anymouse
To: anymouse
Understand he called into KLBJ yesterday to talk. Or was that this morning. Time is flying. Either way for a man that doesn't want his picture taken he sure doesn't mind making the media rounds.
3 posted on
09/30/2005 7:37:03 PM PDT by
TXBubba
( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
To: anymouse
Isn't it highly illegal for members of a Grand Jury to talk about their deliberations? If this guy is who he says he is, isn't he admitting that he himself is committing a crime? And a former LEO? Something doesn't smell right here.Uh, exactly what has he talked about? All he's said is that he believes the indictment he and the others issued was warranted. Not exactly letting out anything we didn't know there.
To: anymouse
They did indict a ham sandwich:
I had known about the tendency of grand juries to follow the dictates of prosecutors instead of concerning themselves, as they are supposed to do, with protecting the unjustly accused. Still, I was stunned by a statistic presented by Bogira: From 2000 through 2003, Cook County grand juries “approved 1,706 indictments for every indictment they rejected.”
5 posted on
09/30/2005 7:41:59 PM PDT by
sourcery
(Givernment: The way the average voter spells "government.")
To: anymouse
Yep. The truth is that Grand Jury does what the prosecution wants. They never act on their own. And as for the indictment - if there's evidence to back it, I haven't seen it. Maybe the foreman knows something the rest of us don't? I'd love to know what that might be.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
7 posted on
09/30/2005 7:46:47 PM PDT by
goldstategop
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To: anymouse
Gibson may have found a horse's head on his front porch this morning.
He's got to justify this, when the truth is, the Grand Jury only hears what Ronnie Earle wants them to hear. There is NO exculpatory evidence favorable to a potential defendant shown to Grand Juries which is, surprise, why they usually hand down indictments.
8 posted on
09/30/2005 7:48:23 PM PDT by
sinkspur
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From the way they are acting, I expect these 12 morons to come forward and claim that they are not partisan and, as a matter of fact, are the only 12 "republicans" in Travis county. And oh yeah! They all "voted for Bush" and "support the troops." Commie 'RATS. Ya gotta love 'em.
9 posted on
09/30/2005 7:51:15 PM PDT by
FlingWingFlyer
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To: anymouse
The evidence is there to prove Delay was involved in wrongdoing and also prove that he and his fellow grand jurors acted independent of political influence, Gibson said.Fair enough Mr Grand Jury foreman, if Mr Delay is guilty then he should be found that way by a jury of his peers. However, if he is found not guilty then you, the rest of your Grand Jury partners, and Mr. Earle have a lot of 'splainin to do?>p>And at this point, I wouldn't want to be in any of your shoes.
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Hey, we need this guy on a Grand Jury in Arkansas don't we? Since he cares so much about the rule of law, maybe He would look into the antics of one Bill Clinton and his charming abettor Hillary Rodham? They sure need several indictments dating back for years
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11 posted on
09/30/2005 7:54:08 PM PDT by
ladyinred
(It is all my fault okay?)
To: anymouse
The evidence is there to prove Delay was involved in wrongdoing and also prove that he and his fellow grand jurors acted independent of political influence, Gibson said. I guess this idiot found out he was gonna be in a movie.
16 posted on
09/30/2005 7:56:31 PM PDT by
blake6900
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To: anymouse
The evidence is there to prove Delay was involved in wrongdoing and also prove that he and his fellow grand jurors acted independent of political influence, Gibson said. Interesting that this part isn't actually in quotes. A grand jury is not supposed to decide if there is "proof of wrongdoing"--their job is to decide if there is probable cause to believe the crime may have taken place.
And the others who said grand jurors cannot speak a peep about the cases are correct. I think this big-mouth will end up in hot water.
22 posted on
09/30/2005 8:03:51 PM PDT by
KJC1
To: anymouse
William Gibson, 76, a former sheriff's deputy in Austin, was the grand jury foreman. He wouldn't discuss specifically what evidence was presented that swayed the jury to indict.
"He's probably doing a good job. I don't have anything against him," Gibson said of DeLay. "Just something happened. I have no grudge against the man."
As for DeLay's claims that the indictment was politically motivated, Gibson said: "Ronnie Earle didn't indict him. The grand jury indicted him."
The grand jury did not take action against Texas House Speaker Tom Craddick, Texas Association of Business President Bill Hammond or state Reps. Dianne Delisi and Beverly Woolley, both of whom sit on the political action committee's board, for their roles in the election.
Another grand jury will be appointed around the first of October. Earle said the investigation is ongoing.
23 posted on
09/30/2005 8:04:19 PM PDT by
kcvl
To: anymouse
The man's an obvious genius, schooled in the intricacies of campaign finance rules and regulations.
24 posted on
09/30/2005 8:05:55 PM PDT by
Deb
(Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
To: anymouse
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200509301738.asp
September 30, 2005, 5:38 p.m.
The Movie: Ronnie Earle, on a Mission from God
The Texas DA is inspired by the Bible to prosecute Tom DeLay.
Quote:
On several occasions in the film, Earle engages in monologues on what he believes is the sinister effect of money in politics. "The root of the evil of the corporate and large-monied interest domination of politics is money," Earle says as he takes the filmmakers on a nighttime drive around Austin. "This is in the Bible. This isn't rocket science. The root of all evil truly is money, especially in politics. People talk about how money is the mother's milk of politics. Well, it's the devil's brew. And what we've got to do, we've got to turn off the tap."
In another scene, Earle describes how he deals with offenders in cases like the campaign-finance investigation. "It's important that we forgive those who come to us in a spirit of contrition and the desire for forgiveness. That's important. But if they don't, then God help them." The film then dissolves to a picture of DeLay.
26 posted on
09/30/2005 8:13:05 PM PDT by
VRWCTexan
(History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
To: anymouse
I have the feeling that by the time this is over some of those who have gone after Tom DeLay will wish they had done something else.
31 posted on
09/30/2005 8:18:21 PM PDT by
billnaz
(What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
To: anymouse
"I like his aggressiveness and everything, and I had nothing against the House majority man, but I felt that we had enough evidence, not only me, but the other grand jury members," Gibson said.
The statement begs the question, what is a "House majority man."
I know enough from that single sentence.
Now the prosecutor and the "foreman" are speaking of this "case" in public.
Draw your own conclusions, I have mine.
32 posted on
09/30/2005 8:18:57 PM PDT by
Hilltop
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To: anymouse
Gibson thinks there is enough evidence to convict DeLay Gibson only heard the prosecution's evidence. Neither DeLay nor his attorneys were there to challenge it.
It's a whole different ballgame when the other team is allowed to suit up and play too.
40 posted on
09/30/2005 8:39:31 PM PDT by
JCEccles
To: anymouse
As we see the crapola boil up, the stench is spreading.
41 posted on
09/30/2005 8:39:55 PM PDT by
Ursus arctos horribilis
("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
To: anymouse
If he is in the insurance business, he should know that election law is mainly about keeping money in the appropriate accounts. If the coporate money went into a fund that wass spent on candidtates in another state, then that freed the RNC committ to use money from oither souces to send to Texas candidates. Such indirect action is not prohibited by Texas law.
44 posted on
09/30/2005 8:44:20 PM PDT by
RobbyS
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