Posted on 09/29/2005 6:22:55 PM PDT by wallcrawlr
A group of Nobel Prize winners should have done more homework before criticizing proposed science standards in Kansas, advocates of the guidelines said in a letter Thursday.
Intelligent design advocates pushing new standards, which would expose students to more criticism of evolution, say the laureates' complaints are an attempt to suppress debate on the issue.
The letter was signed by Bill Harris, a professor of medicine at the University of Missouri-Kansas City, and Greg Lassey, a former middle school science teacher, who helped draft the disputed language.
"We all want good standards," the letter said. "However, demeaning rhetoric that does not address specifics but serves only to belittle and misrepresent the changes is not helpful."
Earlier this month, 38 laureates, including prominent chemists, physicists and medical experts, asked the State Board of Education to reject the proposed standards.
The laureates, led by Holocaust survivor and author Elie Wiesel, said evolution is the foundation of biology and that it has been bolstered by DNA studies.
Many scientists see intelligent design as another form of creationism, which the Supreme Court has banned from public schools.
Intelligent design theorists believe the complexity of the natural world cannot be explained except by attributing creation to some higher intelligence.
The Kansas board expects to vote this year on the standards, which will be used to develop tests for students but would allow local boards to decide how science is taught.
Then how do you explain Tammy Faye?
post that crap somewhere else.
your purpose to bash churchs and people of faith may by wanted on a different thread. not this one.
You might as well say the moon invented gravity.
"...paying outrageous salaries to the pastors..."
I wouldn't want to live on the salaries of any of the pastors I've ever known, and that's been many. That might be true of some of these mega churches but a congegration of 200 or so just isn't paying that much.
Hey, I'm on your side. I'm trying to give you a LITTLE bit to work with here.
Would you rather be dumber than pond scum, or dumber than absolutely nothin at all?
Hey, I'm on your side. I'm trying to give you a LITTLE bit to work with here.
Would you rather be dumber than pond scum, or dumber than absolutely nothin at all?
Hickup.
Scuzzme.
secretly, I agree with you. To say that life just sort of invented isself, you might as well say that the moon invented gravity.
The Court's thinking about the Establishment Clause is so muddled that no one can predict that the Court will not rule differently in two nearly identical cases. This is a perfect enviroment for someone like Sandra Day, who seems to come to each case as though the Constutution were written yesterday. God help us when "consensus" comes to mean the whim of a single woman.
Before it is over, I suspect evolution is going to be put on trial. Behe is going to be the key witness for the defense. What may appear to you to be a big lead for the plaintiffs could very well be the defense saving their case for when it is their turn.
Churches are supported by the public in that they receive tax exemptions.
Bobo: Incorrect analysis. If the church could be taxed then it would be the ward of the state as is the taxpayer, i.e., income tax. Then the state could pressure the church to conform to "government pressure and control". To say that the "public supports them" because they pay no taxes is ridiculous.
Taxes are paid to support mostly the government and its pork. I receive little or no support from the government but pay for the pleasure of breathing the air that they think they own.
Blessings, Bobo
Well, if I may impose on your volubility, what about Genesis 1:12, "and the earth brought forth grass" ( after God commanded it to do so. ) Isn't this abiogenesis ? It certainly seems so to me. I don't see how you would read intelligent design into God's command. That's delegation, not architecture.
Did you know that 755 1/2 Nobelists in economics thought that Bill Clinton had the best darn plan for economic success known to man in about 199? (I don't remember the exact year, and please don't tell me, I'm trying to repress memory of those years)
"You think you know how stars form from gas? Make one!"
"You think you know how continents collide? Collide a couple!"
Well...yeh? Isn't that what ID stands for? Intelligent Delegation?
"You think you know how continents collide? Collide a couple!"
I would you know. But my beaker is too small.
Can you give me something to make that's a little smaller? How small is the smallest living thing?
So then you agree that pond scum is a sort of "grass" ( cf. Gen 1:12 ) and that it was "brought forth by the earth", i.e. via abiogenesis ?
I'm trying to HELP you. Quit raising the bar on yourself.
Ok, now that YOU pointed it out, the pond scum IS probably life already. So that doesn't count. You only get water to work with, OK? I hope your happy!
So, there's this mudd puddle see. It's about 4 billion years ago. And somehow (don't ask me how) it's able to whip up some teeny tiny piece of life.
HOW DID IT DO THAT?!!! Talk about standing here with my Pie-Hole open in awe!!!
Hint: don't go telling me about the moon inventing gravity, or I'm gonna have to dumb down the water. Then were will you be?
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