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To: Right Wing Professor
Of course, your side hasn't been up to bat yet, and things may change, but we're running up a big lead.

Before it is over, I suspect evolution is going to be put on trial. Behe is going to be the key witness for the defense. What may appear to you to be a big lead for the plaintiffs could very well be the defense saving their case for when it is their turn.

110 posted on 09/29/2005 9:40:59 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: connectthedots; Right Wing Professor
"Behe is going to be the key witness for the defense. What may appear to you to be a big lead for the plaintiffs could very well be the defense saving their case for when it is their turn."

Nope. ID says the laws of physics are insufficient to govern the world.

Proof:

ID uses the laws of physics to make some calculation. The ID guy swears his logic is OK and his math likewise. The output of his calculation says, "the result of the calculation can't explain the observaitons."

There are then 2 remaining possibilities, because he swears his model is good:

1) The model is missing some knowledge and understanding(of physics)
2) The model is right, the physics are 100% correct, that's all the physics there is, and there's an intelligent force

Take your choice:

Now the scientist always takes choice #1, because that's all science can work with is the observable laws of physics. The scientist concludes that something is wrong in his model, knowledge, and/or understanding. The scientist then continues to work on the problem. That is science.

The IDer goes for #2, which necessaririly says the laws of physics can not account for the phenominon. Notice that he must declare he knows absolutely that his knowledge and understanding is perfect and that's why he was able to create the perfect model which demonstrates the laws of physics are in fact incomplete. That is what Behe is going to have to say.

Now Behe maybe doesn't realize it, but he's put himself in a position where he claims perfection in a world of the imperfect. I doubt the judge is going to see divine intervention here consisting of talent on loan from God. He's going to see a con artist in action.

He's really going to get zotted when after claiming ability and perfection above all other scientists in the field of biology that result in his model being perfect; then goes dumb and w/o a clue about who the designer might be. I'd quiz him on how he knows the designer is intelligent, instead of arbitrary, or half assed. I'd have him comment on some examples.

The only way the judge could decide in favor of Behe's con that ID is science, is if he simply goes political, like the rats, and joins the chorus of hand waiving clowns.

127 posted on 09/29/2005 10:41:54 PM PDT by spunkets
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