Endangered Species Act rewrite passed by House

ap on San Diego Union Tribune ^ | 9/29/05 | Erica Werner - ap

[NormsRevenge]

I just cross-linked the threads.

Thanks!

[Blood of Tyrants]

I ahte to say this, but I think that it has little chance in the Senate.

[NormsRevenge]

Good point.

We still aren't drilling in ANWR, huh?


At what point do we finally hit the "Emergency" level and get off our butts and do what needs to be done?

When we are shivering in the dark, our tractors sitting idle in fields due to fuel shortages?

[Blood of Tyrants]

At what point do we finally hit the "Emergency" level and get off our butts and do what needs to be done?

This is what the 'Rats have been hoping for. For them to regain power, they pray for BAD things to happen to the US and you can bet your last nickel that they will oppose any and all measures to relieve the current high prices of energy so that it will hurt the economy.

[Lancey Howard]

bttt

[v. crow]

"You've got to pay when you take away somebody's private property. That is what we have to do," Pombo told House colleagues. "The only way this is going to work is if we bring in property owners to be part of the solution and to be part of recovering those species."

This simple common-sense assertion is a sight to behold in a Congress infamous for irresponsible thinking and ridiculous reasoning.

The Democrat with a stupid statement about seat belts that isn't worth repeating just does not get it. He think he has the power and moral authority to arbitrarily dictate my behavior, especially in regards to my property. Of course you have to compensate me for preventing me from the use of my property, you imbecile! He is an ugly and evil person.

I doubt that this is large handouts in disguise to property owners. The monetary compensation is the reasonable result of emminent domain protection. It provides a significant disincentive to the government for barring me from the use of my land.

This is an attractive model for zoning law reforms.

[Savage Beast]

If the "environmentalists" are for it, oppose it. If they're against it, support it.

And never give one penny to an "environmentalist charity".

[Calpernia]

bttt

[Sunnyflorida]

I'm hoping somebody takes the Florida manatee off the list. The ESL should be reserved for native species. The manatees that live in Florida now are descendants of a food source introduced into Florida when Spained owned Florida.

The are used by leftists in the State to take private property rights without due process.

[NormsRevenge]

Save Our Species Alliance Congratulates U.S. House on Updating And Modernizing Endangered Species Act

To: National Desk

Contact: Tom Randall of Save Our Species Alliance, 773-857-5086 or trandall@winningreen.com

GOLDEN, Colo., Sept. 29 /U.S. Newswire/ -- With Democrats contributing 36 "yes" votes, the U.S. House passed the first substantive improvements in the Endangered Species Act since it first became law 31 years ago.

The measure, the Threatened and Endangered Species Recovery Act (TESRA) was the culmination of an effort, led by Resources Committee Chairman Richard Pombo (R-CA), and Dennis Cardoza (D- CA) to improve the recovery rate of endangered and threatened species while making the process fairer for landowners.

"During the debate, the entire House of Representatives seemed to agree the ESA is in need of updates and improvements," Pombo said. It's incredible how far we have come.

"What surprised me most today," Pombo added, "was the strong ideological differences about whether or not homeowners should be compensated when their property is taken, as the fifth amendment of the Constitution requires. Upholding this right and partnering with the landowner is the only way we are going to improve the ESA's failing result for recovery. This legislation does just that."

Pombo noted that during the life of the 31-year-old Act just 10 of approximately 1300species listed as threatened or endangered have recovered sufficiently to be de-listed.

Major improvements made by TESRA include mandatory requirements for science-based recovery plans when a species is listed as threatened or endangered. It also provides for incentives for voluntary conservation efforts by private property owners and compensation for value lost from restrictions on land use. Some criticized compensating landowners as being too costly but the Congressional Budget Office predicted those costs would be quite modest.

http://www.usnewswire.com/

[GreenFreeper]

ECO-PING

[GreenFreeper]

ooops forgot the list...

[marsh2]

I have a copy of the bill, but have been so busy I haven't thoroughly read it. Does it do anything to reverse the SCOTUS interpretation that "habitat modification" that could impair a vital function of the species - such as feeding, reproducing, sheltering - constituted a prohibited "take" under the Act - requiring an incidental take permit. The damned ITP and Habitat Conservation Plan was where the feds exhorted life and limb from the applicant in perpetuity.

[newzjunkey]

A re-write is overdue. Let's hope it's a good one.

[traviskicks]

Some news stories on abuses by environemnetalists:

http://www.neoperspectives.com/environment.htm


'Ranchers revenge' and the jumping mouse one (it didn't exist!) are good.

[tubebender]

Was it Siskiyou county where the lady went to jail for feeding deer or some critter?

[Hank Rearden]

There has been a sea change in Washington, and the strong undercurrents are running the other way....

We shall see . . . this is the same gang that couldn't even muster the courage to take PBS off the taxpayer tit, much less the Sierra Club.

[Carry_Okie]

I have a copy of the bill, but have been so busy I haven't thoroughly read it. Does it do anything to reverse the SCOTUS interpretation that "habitat modification" that could impair a vital function of the species - such as feeding, reproducing, sheltering - constituted a prohibited "take" under the Act - requiring an incidental take permit. The damned ITP and Habitat Conservation Plan was where the feds exhorted life and limb from the applicant in perpetuity.

It was the definition of "take" that exceeded both our treaty obligations and the Congress' legitimate Constitutional authority, all protestations of the SCOTUS to the contrary.

[Gone GF]

Senate won't even look at it until next year and this version doesn't have a prayer.

Amazingly, Democrats actually approved eliminating critical habitat in another House version.

[EGPWS]

We may yet drill for oil in Alaska. There is already renewed interest in tapping into resources all along our continental shelf.

We paid good money for Alaska. The least we should do is get our moneys worth.