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Judge Orders Release of Abu Ghraib Photos
Lodi News ^ | Sep 29, 2005 | LARRY NEUMEISTER

Posted on 09/29/2005 11:08:15 AM PDT by Ben Mugged

NEW YORK - Pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released despite government claims that they could damage America's image, a judge ruled Thursday.

U.S. District Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein ordered the release of certain pictures, saying terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan have proven they "do not need pretexts for their barbarism."

The American Civil Liberties Union sought the release of 87 photographs and four videotapes as part of an October 2003 lawsuit demanding information on the treatment of detainees in U.S. custody and the transfer of prisoners to countries known to use torture. The ACLU contends that prisoner abuse is systemic.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: abughraib; iraq; ruling
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To: kabar

Nothing, and I stress nothing, could enrage these human mutants any more than they already are. Poor grammar, but I hope you get my point. I'm just so tired of dong the politically correct things these days. We all seem to forget that the whole story began this way: It way a beautiful, fresh fall morning and New Yorkers, Moms and Dads and Sons and Daughters, loved ones all, began entering those twin monuments to American Pride, just wanting to put in a decent days work; not hating a soul, just trying to enjoy the early morning gifts of clear skies and good friends. This is why I'm bitter and enraged every time I hear those whining liberal America haters cry about the rights of the poor Arabs. I don't give a rats --- what book motivates these vermin.


41 posted on 09/29/2005 1:24:53 PM PDT by mict42
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To: mict42

So, what's your point? Are you still in favor of releasing these additional pictures? They serve no earthly purpose except to resurrect Abu Garib all over again. The people that want this are trying to get us to cut and run from Iraq. They also want the photos of the American coffins released. They have a political agenda.


42 posted on 09/29/2005 2:04:36 PM PDT by kabar
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To: smonk
On December 20, 2004, Hellerstein said he would deny a government request to delay a review of whether certain CIA internal files related to Iraq should be made public. Judge Alvin Hellerstein's comments marked a victory for the ACLU and other groups seeking information about the treatment of detainees at Guantanamo and in Iraq.

On June 3, 2005, Judge Hellerstein ordered the government to release four videos from Abu Ghraib prison and dozens of photographs from the same collection as photos that touched off the Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal a year ago. The ACLU said the material would show that the abuse was "more than the actions of a few rogue soldiers."

43 posted on 09/29/2005 2:09:06 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Ben Mugged


"We were never concerned about America's image abroad nor the safety of our soldiers."
-- ACLU, MSM and fellow Dem donkeys

44 posted on 09/29/2005 2:30:58 PM PDT by OESY
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To: Ben Mugged

I am beyond outraged over this atrocity from the stinking bench!

Between the ACLU and a handful of judges, we may as well not have a democracy. At every turn on every front we have these filthy vermin undermining our country, our freedom, and our Democracy. Something must be done to hamstring these arbutuses of evil; these venomous minions will destroy this nation like festering cancer that metastasizes slowly to kill its host.


45 posted on 09/29/2005 3:55:18 PM PDT by chaos_5
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To: Ben Mugged; All

Who will get blamed for all the innocents that get killed in riots as a result of the release?


46 posted on 09/29/2005 4:05:17 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: NormsRevenge

Thats an easy one, we will!
Since we are the big evil American occupiers, none of this would have happened if we were not there. So, when riots and kill starts over the release of the images we will be blamed, and from there the finger will point to Bush….


47 posted on 09/29/2005 4:09:34 PM PDT by chaos_5
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To: Ben Mugged

http://air.fjc.gov/servlet/tGetInfo?jid=2794

Hellerstein, Alvin K.

U. S. District Court, Southern District of New York
Nominated by William J. Clinton on May 15, 1998...


48 posted on 09/29/2005 4:12:09 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Ben Mugged

Should the pictures be released, it should be in the form of a montage, showing a panty head next to a burnt body, a leashed Moose next to someone jumping off the WTC, etc. With caption "Now Just Who's The Barbarian?"


49 posted on 09/29/2005 4:18:55 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Hello... Is any one home? The people responsible did face charges!
In fact cameras and such devices are not allowed on any military installation with out the permission of the Commanding Officer.

obviously there is a reason for this rule
50 posted on 09/29/2005 4:18:57 PM PDT by chaos_5
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To: jackv
Point.... However, loosing these photos will not protect the Clinton's, or remove incriminating evidence, therefor there is no way someone would "loose" them.

Even Burglar isn't that good. =)
51 posted on 09/29/2005 4:21:39 PM PDT by chaos_5
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Should the pictures be released, it should be in the form of a montage, showing a panty head next to a burnt body, a leashed Moose next to someone jumping off the WTC, etc. With caption "Now Just Who's The Barbarian?"

Great idea: Context is important and of course wholly ignored by the America-haters. Don't forget to have a few shots of the jihadis' sawing the heads off of innocent civilians in the montage....

52 posted on 09/29/2005 4:55:40 PM PDT by teawithmisswilliams (Question Diversity)
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To: chaos_5

Not the people who allowed cameras within 500 yards of the prison--they did get charged. Yeah, they charged the privates, etc. The officers didn't pick up so much as a splinter.


53 posted on 09/29/2005 5:05:56 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Troubled by NOLA looting ? You ain't seen nothing yet.)
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To: Ben Mugged
"It's a historic ruling, said ACLU Executive Director Anthony Romero. "While no one wants to see what's on the photos or videos, they will play an essential role in holding our government leaders accountable for the torture that's happened on their watch."

Translation: The ACLU doesn`t care if more US soldiers are killed as long as they get to bash Bush more.

54 posted on 09/29/2005 5:16:35 PM PDT by WillamShakespeare (Who is John Kerry?)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
He is a ...


55 posted on 09/29/2005 5:21:38 PM PDT by WillamShakespeare (Who is John Kerry?)
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To: BikerNYC
If damaging our "image" is all the government had to offer, then the pictures should be released.

Thats probably more MSM propaganda. These pictures will cause our troops harm. I care about that. To heck with our image. Even at our worst, we're a thousand times better then those murderers. This is all a bunch of hogwash.

56 posted on 09/29/2005 5:25:43 PM PDT by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Should the pictures be released, it should be in the form of a montage, showing a panty head next to a burnt body, a leashed Moose next to someone jumping off the WTC, etc. With caption "Now Just Who's The Barbarian?"

And don't forget the horrible images of the beheadings.

57 posted on 09/29/2005 5:34:28 PM PDT by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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