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No Science, Please – We’re British
American Thinker ^ | 9/27/05

Posted on 09/29/2005 7:30:22 AM PDT by ZGuy

The report that a hospital in West Yorkshire has banned visitors from cooing at new-born babies is, in fact, only the second dumbest thing the Brits have lately done.

They’ve also removed science from the school curriculum. New regulations just announced by the Blair government, and taking effect next year, will allow students to bypass the hard sciences in favor of courses deemed “relevant.” More precisely, students will be permitted to choose between traditional courses that teach the Periodic Table, ionic equations, the structure of the atom, Boyle’s law, and Ohm’s law – and newly-designed courses that will teach about the drugs debate, slimming issues, smoking and health, in vitro fertilization, and “the nuclear controversy”. According to The Times of London, the new regulations were adopted after Tony Blair’s ministers received a report from academics at King’s College, London, which concluded that “science lessons were often dull and boring, and required pupils to recall too many facts.”

Not surprisingly, the new courses – officially called TwentyFirst Century Science – are a hit with students. At North Chadderton upper school – one of 80 at which the new program has already been pilot-tested -- students who previously had been forced to learn physics and chemistry were, instead, taught what foods to eat. According to North Chadderton’s head of science, Martyn Overy,

“The proportion getting higher grades in science went up from 60 percent to 75 percent. The course kept their interest, had more project work, and was more relevant.”

It’s hard to imagine anything a government could do that would be more likely than this to condemn its people to technological and economic backwardness. That it would happen in Great Britain – which has given humanity so many of its very greatest scientific minds, including Issac Newton and Francis Bacon – is beyond belief. Well, almost beyond belief.

Those poor, un-cooed-at babies in West Yorkshire have no idea what’s in store for them.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: crevolist; dumbingdown; education; england
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1 posted on 09/29/2005 7:30:23 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: ZGuy

'Stuck on Stupid'


2 posted on 09/29/2005 7:32:10 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: ZGuy

Well so long as the kids are happy and interested, I suppose it doesn't really matter whether or not they actually learn anything in school...


3 posted on 09/29/2005 7:32:47 AM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: ZGuy

"George Orwell...George Orwell...Please pick up the white courtesy phone."


4 posted on 09/29/2005 7:33:54 AM PDT by Eepsy
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To: ZGuy

Won't be long until we follow suit.


5 posted on 09/29/2005 7:35:08 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: ZGuy; RadioAstronomer

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Actually, it might be for the best. The students who are genuinely interested in chemistry or physics, and prepared to do the math, will have the science lectures and labs to themselves, while the deadwood are off becoming "relevant." ("Slimming issues"? Gark!)

The rulers and the ruled ...

(Science education ping, RA :-).


6 posted on 09/29/2005 7:36:37 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Something bad happens? Conservatives get over it!)
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To: Tax-chick

I lived in and out of england and continue to do busines there. It is a good place to visit. But I have learned a lot and since 1985 when I have been asked my thoughts about it I have always replied the same way.

England is 200 years of history unhampered by progress.


7 posted on 09/29/2005 7:40:41 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: ZGuy
>Great Britain – which has given humanity so many of its very greatest scientific minds, including Issac Newton and Francis Bacon

Meanwhile, France turned out
Leibniz and Descartes. Who needs
Newton and Bacon?!

8 posted on 09/29/2005 7:41:01 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: edcoil

My brother has lived in England for the last 5 years ... but he doesn't have any children!

It's very scenic, but it sure seems like they're getting weird.


9 posted on 09/29/2005 7:42:14 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Something bad happens? Conservatives get over it!)
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To: ZGuy
"That it would happen in Great Britain – which has given humanity so many of its very greatest scientific minds, including Issac Newton and Francis Bacon – is beyond belief. "
Well, that same Francis Bacon wrote: “Concerning the advancement of learning, I do subscribe to the opinion… that, for grammar schools, there are already too many… the great number of schools which are in your Highness’s realm doth cause a want, and likewise an overthrow [surfeit] – both of them inconvenient and one of them dangerous; for by means thereof they find want in the country and towns, both of servants for husbandry and of apprentices for trade; and on the other side there being more Scholars bred than the State can prefer and employ… it must needs fall out that many persons will be bred unfit for other vocations and unprofitable for that in which they were bred up, which will fill the realm full of indigent, idle and wanton people…”
Francis Bacon, 1611 letter to James I.
So, the new regulation are addressing the growing shortage "of servants for husbandry and of apprentices for trade". As such, it is the most wise measure and is to be supported and applauded.
10 posted on 09/29/2005 7:46:04 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: GSlob

regulation are addressing = regulation IS addressing. editing error.


11 posted on 09/29/2005 7:47:19 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: theFIRMbss

And Pasteur.


12 posted on 09/29/2005 7:48:47 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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“science lessons were often dull and boring, and required pupils to recall too many facts.”

The idea of offering alternative courses won't solve this problem, IMO. Abolish all schooling is the only solution.

13 posted on 09/29/2005 7:55:12 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Flea, feather, bird, egg, nest, twig, branch, limb, tree, and the bog down in the valley - o.)
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Hey man it's COOOOOL!
14 posted on 09/29/2005 7:57:16 AM PDT by Old Seadog (Birthdays start out being fun. But too many of them will kill you..)
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To: ZGuy
More precisely, students will be permitted to choose between traditional courses that teach the Periodic Table, ionic equations, the structure of the atom, Boyle’s law, and Ohm’s law – and newly-designed courses that will teach about the drugs debate, slimming issues, smoking and health, in vitro fertilization, and “the nuclear controversy”.

There is no way that they can teach "the nuclear controversy" without teaching the hard sciences. If you can't understand nuclear fission, beta and alpha decay, the basic engineering principles behind nuclear reactors, the safety considerations (which are very technical), and the effects of radiation on biological material there is no way to have any comprehension over whether nuclear reactors are good or bad. It has long been my view that the "nuclear controversy" arose because people were not given decent science educations and did not understand the science and engineering principles behind reactors. This will hardly help. Just more indoctrination to help keep the "nuclear controversy" running.

15 posted on 09/29/2005 7:57:25 AM PDT by burzum (Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.-Adm H Rickover)
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To: edcoil

Next time you're over there, can you pick up some BSA parts for me ?


16 posted on 09/29/2005 8:03:27 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Troubled by NOLA looting ? You ain't seen nothing yet.)
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To: theFIRMbss

Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz was born in Leipzig in 1646 and died in Hannover in 1716. I don't know if he ever spent time in France, but he was German.


17 posted on 09/29/2005 8:04:23 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: ZGuy

Math (or "maths" as they call it) is often dull and boring...that should be dropped too, since calculators are so cheap nowadays.


18 posted on 09/29/2005 8:05:33 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: ZGuy

Amazing. Another reason to privatize schools. You know we are only 20 years or so behind Britain's mistakes.


19 posted on 09/29/2005 8:06:58 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Verginius Rufus
>Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz was born in Leipzig in 1646 and died in Hannover in 1716. I don't know if he ever spent time in France, but he was German

Yikes! You're right, of course!
Oh, man. I'm feeling very
British this morning . . .

20 posted on 09/29/2005 8:09:48 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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