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Poll: Most doctors (63%) favor evolution theory over I.D. (However, Protestant Doctors...)
Phys Org ^ | 28 September 2005 | Physic

Posted on 09/29/2005 4:52:20 AM PDT by gobucks

A national survey of 1,472 physicians indicates more than half -- 63 percent -- believe the theory of evolution over that of intelligent design.

The responses were analyzed according to religious affiliation.

When asked whether they agree more with intelligent design or evolution, 88 percent of Jewish doctors and 60 percent of Roman Catholic physicians said they agree more with evolution, while 54 percent of Protestant doctors agreed more with intelligent design.

When asked whether intelligent design has legitimacy as science, 83 percent of Jewish doctors and 51 percent of Catholic doctors said they believe intelligent design is simply "a religiously inspired pseudo-science rather than a legitimate scientific speculation." But 63 percent of Protestant doctors said intelligent design is a "legitimate scientific speculation."

The study was conducted by the Louis Finkelstein Institute for Social and Religious Research at The Jewish Theological Seminary in New York City and HCD Research in Flemington, N.J.

The May 13-15 poll had a margin of error plus or minus 3 percentage points.

Copyright 2005 by United Press International


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: anothercrevothread; beatingadeadhorse; crevolist; crevorepublic; enoughalready; evolution; medicine; religion
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Glad you find it so funnybone


21 posted on 09/29/2005 11:10:24 AM PDT by StonyBurk
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To: crz
Mine doesnt believe there is a creator and I asked him if that was so; then what is the purpose of life? If there is no life after death then why bother? No reward for this life why bother? Hell if thats so, then kill, steal, cheat and lie all you want as there's no threat after you die...

Nicomachean Ethics

22 posted on 09/29/2005 11:14:50 AM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: Betaille
It makes sense that almost all Jewish doctors would agree with evolution because in Judaism, evolution and G-d's creation are not contradictory.

I thought that if you believed that God created the world, but used evolution to fulfill his creation, then you were a supporter of Intelligent Design and therefore a complete and total moron. Or do you have another definition of Intelligent Design than that?

23 posted on 09/29/2005 11:15:05 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: fzx12345

Evolution is just a theory, why do its opponents always seem to label it "Darwinism" like it's an ideology? You can accept evolution in biology and still believe in a personal God. I do.


24 posted on 09/29/2005 11:28:57 AM PDT by eagle11
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To: StonyBurk
"Glad you find it so funnybone."


It's more pathetic than funny. I notice you couldn't find a problem with my objections. :)
25 posted on 09/29/2005 11:29:27 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

"I thought that if you believed that God created the world, but used evolution to fulfill his creation, then you were a supporter of Intelligent Design"

Exactly my point. The question was asked as though the evolution and intelligent design are contradictory when that is not the case. It's a push-poll.


26 posted on 09/29/2005 12:34:26 PM PDT by Betaille ("And if the stars burn out there's only fire to blame" -Duran Duran)
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To: Betaille

If that is your point, then why do 83% of self identified Jewish doctors believe that Intelligent Design is ""a religiously inspired pseudo-science rather than a legitimate scientific speculation."

It seems to me that either

1) These Jewish Doctors do not understand what Intelligent Design is.

2) These Jewish Doctors do believe it is incompatible to combine a belief of God the Creator and an observable method of creation.

3) These Jewish Doctors do not believe in a Creator, therefore Intelligent Design sounds like a silly fairy tale to them.


27 posted on 09/29/2005 12:52:16 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: English Nationalist
Sir, No genuine Christian fears Hell. Christ died as a vicarious sacrifice and paid the wages of sin (death and hell). Christians are Christians because they have received the atonement of Christ as the only remedy for sin (as a principle) and sins (as a practice).

It is possible for a Christian to kill, steal, cheat and/or lie. The sin nature is not eradicated upon salvation.

Genuine Christians, however do not desire to live a lifestyle that is offensive to God's holiness and injurious to our Christian testimony, witness and influence for righteousness. Christians are grateful for deliverance from the condemnation of sin and saved from the potential of going to hell.

Christians, upon believing upon the Lord Jesus Christ for eternal redemption and pardon, are regenerated by the Holy Ghost (Titus 3:5). Jesus called that being "born again." Peter calls it being "partakers of the divine nature." The Holy Ghost (Holy Spirit) indwells and teaches the children of God.

Christians have still the sinful nature with which they were born, and with which you were born. Christians DO indeed commit sins; they neither achieve nor acquire sinless perfection in this life. But they know the forgiveness of God which is granted because of the merits of Christ, and have the indwelling Holy Spirit, who prompts us to refrain from murder and thievery and cheating and lying.

It is not fear of hell, but abhorrence of sin, and a desire to be an honorable child of our heavenly Father.
28 posted on 09/29/2005 1:02:56 PM PDT by Free Baptist
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

couldn't find any intelligence in your design.More to the point.Those reprobates that hate God and the foundations of
American education-who have excised 2/3 of the Northwest
Ordinance to devolve their little red schoolhouse are the
ones I find most pathetic.


29 posted on 09/29/2005 1:53:22 PM PDT by StonyBurk
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To: StonyBurk
"couldn't find any intelligence in your design.More to the point.Those reprobates that hate God and the foundations of
American education-who have excised 2/3 of the Northwest
Ordinance to devolve their little red schoolhouse are the
ones I find most pathetic."

In other words, you have no argument. I didn't you would. Thanks for showing the world your ignorance. It must be very comforting to you.
30 posted on 09/29/2005 2:01:32 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

I think you missed my point. The way the entire survey is phrased is meant to imply that intelligent design is by definition opposed to the theory of evolution (which it is not).
The questions were loaded in order to get the response the push-pollers wanted.


31 posted on 09/29/2005 2:08:47 PM PDT by Betaille ("And if the stars burn out there's only fire to blame" -Duran Duran)
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To: gobucks

Under the circumstances that's not a very big "most" because most doctors probably do not even worry about the subject and those that don't think about it will, when asked, mostly say yeah, that one, the one that permeates the background, the one that was the assumption throughout their school years.


32 posted on 09/29/2005 3:49:36 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: gobucks

I dont think doctors are automatically authorities on evolution. Most doctors don't really need to study evolution in any depth, and some may have no education about evolution at all. All they need to know is about human anatomy and medicine.

If anything I reckon veterinary doctors will probably have more authority on evolution than regular doctors.


33 posted on 09/29/2005 4:51:00 PM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: English Nationalist

Well for those that actually take the Bible as the Word of God, it is out of love for the Creator and fact he has saved us from his justice and wrath through the redeeming blood of His Son? Does that answer the question?


34 posted on 09/29/2005 5:02:20 PM PDT by chickenlips (John 3:36)
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To: gobucks

I are one! I believe that God created all things, you and me, and even all those who dishonor Him!


35 posted on 09/29/2005 5:09:56 PM PDT by Doctor Don
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To: NC28203
Why would a IDer become a doctor? If you're ill or weak, that's just because that was the will of the designer! Nobody should bother to help you; instead, we should just follow the designers plan. He/she/it is the intelligent one, and all that.

Exactly. I am one that thinks that ID is a legitimate hypothesis, and "scientific," refutable. But I do not see what is the moral or ethical implication of ID being true, or not true. Without revelation - without some imposition of a Truth beyond the frame of the picture (Wittgenstein, etc.) - I do not see how any personal moral code is necessary. Darwin or Dembski being correct does not mean anything in terms of what should be individual decisions. Does anyone have a logical challenge to this?

36 posted on 09/29/2005 5:20:48 PM PDT by chinche
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To: bobdsmith

"All they need to know is about human anatomy and medicine."

It is because so many agree with this statement that so many doctors are just plain lousy at healing people.


37 posted on 09/29/2005 7:13:50 PM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/Laocoon.htm)
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To: Phoroneus

I agree very much that what one chooses to read determines largely what they think they are choosing to believe.


39 posted on 09/30/2005 4:26:21 AM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/Laocoon.htm)
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