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First Trio "Married" in The Netherlands
The Brussels Journal ^ | 2005-09-27 | Paul Belien

Posted on 09/28/2005 5:18:08 PM PDT by bahblahbah

The Netherlands and Belgium were the first countries to give full marriage rights to homosexuals. In the United States some politicians propose “civil unions” that give homosexual couples the full benefits and responsibilities of marriage. These civil unions differ from marriage only in name.

Meanwhile in the Netherlands polygamy has been legalised in all but name. Last Friday the first civil union of three partners was registered. Victor de Bruijn (46) from Roosendaal “married” both Bianca (31) and Mirjam (35) in a ceremony before a notary who duly registered their civil union.

“I love both Bianca and Mirjam, so I am marrying them both,” Victor said. He had previously been married to Bianca. Two and a half years ago they met Mirjam Geven through an internet chatbox. Eight weeks later Mirjam deserted her husband and came to live with Victor and Bianca. After Mirjam’s divorce the threesome decided to marry.

Victor: “A marriage between three persons is not possible in the Netherlands, but a civil union is. We went to the notary in our marriage costume and exchanged rings. We consider this to be just an ordinary marriage.”

Asked by journalists to tell the secret of their peculiar relationship, Victor explained that there is no jealousy between them. “But this is because Mirjam and Bianca are bisexual. I think that with two heterosexual women it would be more difficult.” Victor stressed, however, that he is “a one hundred per cent heterosexual” and that a fourth person will not be allowed into the “marriage.” They want to take their marriage obligations seriously: “to be honest and open with each other and not philander.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: activistcourts; activistjudges; comingtoamerica; doasthouwill; equalright4trisexual; gaymarriage; heatherhas2momsn1dad; homosexualagenda; marriagelaws; menageatrois; polygamy; samesexmarriage; slipperyslope
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To: bahblahbah
Poligamy is accepted in the Old-Testament (just see how many wives those kings of Isreael have). However, when Jesus came, with the notion of the people as the bride and the Lord as her Groom, things changed. Marriage became a monogamous relationship.

This Christian value of monogamous marriage was widely accepted in Europe's Christendom. Now, that many of them not believe in Christ anylonger, there's no reason not to have more than one spouse if you want. Especially in the face of multiculturalism ideology. Afterall, Islam let a man to have up to four (concurrent) wives.

41 posted on 09/28/2005 5:39:11 PM PDT by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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To: AlaskaErik; JRochelle

As JRochelle pointed out upthread animals are not able to give consent. Someone brings this up in every homo-marriage thread and it is an argument that simply does not hold water. Personally I could care less if some want to practice polygamy, it's not for me but then again no one's forcing me into it either. Plenty of historical precedent, much more so than for gay marriage.


42 posted on 09/28/2005 5:39:21 PM PDT by Ignatius J Reilly
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To: sit-rep

I think it is only appropriate that the first post of yours I read since your return is this one and at the same time I'm viewing http://www.hideawayknife.com/main.php in a different window.

Please Freepmail me if your still lurking as I have a lot of catching up to do with you. Horatio Gates pointed out your new website to me.


43 posted on 09/28/2005 5:39:25 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (It's easier to save others than it is to save yourself.)
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To: LizardQueen

You beat me to it...

Did he pay them.... One MILLION dollars?


44 posted on 09/28/2005 5:40:23 PM PDT by Noumenon (Activist judges - out of touch, out of tune, but not out of reach.)
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To: bahblahbah; TheBigB; Petronski

Nice at first.

Until the roof needs fixed.

And the grass needs cut.

And the fence needs painting.

And...

45 posted on 09/28/2005 5:40:44 PM PDT by martin_fierro (|\/|4R71|\|_P|-|13RR0)
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To: bahblahbah

Well Victor, you screwed up!

No 72 virgins for you!


46 posted on 09/28/2005 5:41:23 PM PDT by aShepard
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To: Mr. Jeeves
I agree it is far more legitimate than gay marriage, but these women are bisexual and if you go by the strict words of Jesus this would be adultery.
47 posted on 09/28/2005 5:42:13 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: justche

On the other hand, who would want two husbands? Wait, if one of them was a real handyman/fix anything and the other husband was a financial wizard.....I might consider it... LOL ;-)


48 posted on 09/28/2005 5:42:19 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: itsinthebag

In a year or so you'll see the first tri-sexual divorce, and ol' Victor will be out on his "netherlands".


49 posted on 09/28/2005 5:42:40 PM PDT by mikrofon (To the Victor belongs the spoils...)
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To: justche
Don't quit your day job :)

Yeah, I know. And I shouldn't try to type while eating dinner either.

50 posted on 09/28/2005 5:43:02 PM PDT by msnimje (Hurricane KATRINA - An Example of Nature's Enforcement of Eminent Domain)
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To: cripplecreek

wow, well there's an angle I hadn't thought of....can you imagine alimony from TWO? And eventually the child support, and all the other crap that will come out of this, when it's two guys and a female--Ugh, I just don't need to think too much about this.


51 posted on 09/28/2005 5:43:26 PM PDT by justche (The worst moment for the atheist is when he is really thankful and has nobody to thank.)
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To: bahblahbah
What if they had been sheep instead of cows? ;-)

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

52 posted on 09/28/2005 5:43:42 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: paudio
Poligamy is accepted in the Old-Testament (just see how many wives those kings of Isreael have).

I would say poligamy was practiced in the OT. It was never "accepted" by God. He never said to take more than one wife. And it should also be noted that those who were in poligamous marriages in the O.T. had all sorts of problems because of it. There isn't one account of a happy family in the poligamy of the O.T.

53 posted on 09/28/2005 5:44:44 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: bahblahbah
Just for conversational purposes, there is some polygamy in America but they just don't get marriage licenses.
54 posted on 09/28/2005 5:44:58 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: aShepard

Islam allows polygamy. Mohammed had several wives all at the same time. One he married when she was 7 or so, and consummated the marriage with when she was 9. So perhaps he does get the 72 year virgins.

Hopefully, its just a 72 year old virgin.


55 posted on 09/28/2005 5:45:08 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: JRochelle
This is a very sordid, sad story. I hope it's legal to post this website from the Des Moines Register.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050926/NEWS01/509260323&SearchID=73221770215231

56 posted on 09/28/2005 5:45:21 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: proudofthesouth

Yeah, you know - I'm thinking two would just about certify you.


*laughing at how many times you'd be saying "WHO LEFT THE D$#@ seat up THIS time?"


57 posted on 09/28/2005 5:45:44 PM PDT by justche (The worst moment for the atheist is when he is really thankful and has nobody to thank.)
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To: TXBubba

poligamy = polygamy


58 posted on 09/28/2005 5:46:10 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: JRochelle

Ah, but mine did (being a guy, and all).


59 posted on 09/28/2005 5:46:22 PM PDT by Junior (Some drink to silence the voices in their heads. I drink to understand them.)
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To: Ignatius J Reilly

Exactly. I also have a problem with something being illegal when it is formalised by the state (ie applying for recognition of their union) but fine if done informally (ie living together as a trio).

That said, I don't think groups opposed to such unions should have to recognise them but that only reawakens the old argument of whether the state should have any part in recgnising marriage or not. If it does we're always going to have someone 'pushing the envelope'...

Mind you, my real beef with polygamy is that nowadays (This case excepted) it always seems to involve young kids below the age of condsent being pressured into rleationships with sleazy old men with the kids own families helping to apply the pressure.

I could care less what consenting adults do (As long as it's not in my face) but some calls of polygamy are no more than a mask for abuse.


60 posted on 09/28/2005 5:46:55 PM PDT by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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