Posted on 09/27/2005 6:04:54 PM PDT by HAL9000
BEIJING, Sept. 27 -- Microsoft invested US$20 million in a Beijing-based domestic software firm yesterday, aiming to strengthen its commitment to the Chinese market and tap into the nation's software engineering talent pool.International Finance Corp (IFC), an investment arm of the World Bank, also invested US$15 million in the same firm, ChinaSoft International Ltd. The company is under the control of the State-owned China National Software and Service Co Ltd (CS&S).
The parties involved declined to disclose how big the stakes of Microsoft and IFC are. ChinaSoft International is valued at HK$788 million (US$101 million) on the Growth Enterprise Market in Hong Kong. The trading of ChinaSoft International's stocks was suspended yesterday because of the issuance of new stock to the two firms. Its stocks closed slightly higher on Friday at HK$1.13 (17 US cents), from HK$1.12 on Thursday.
"We have been searching for a model of development in China, but with this investment into ChinaSoft International, we have found our way," said Tim Chen, the CEO of Microsoft China, in Beijing.
ChinaSoft International is the second Chinese software firm that Microsoft has invested in this year. The first was the Langchao Group in East China's Shandong Province, which got US$25 million from the firm.
Chen said the investments showed Microsoft's confidence in its long-term prospects in China. He said previous activity was mainly focused on sales, local development, and technological co-operation.
He added that the move also showed his firm's commitment to bringing Chinese software firms to the international marketplace.
Microsoft signed an agreement with the Chinese Government in 2002 to invest US$750 million in China in three years, believed to be a major move to win trust in China, its biggest potential market.
Microsoft made all its Xbox game consoles in China last year, generating an output value of 8 billion yuan (US$989 million).
It also signed up with four global strategic partners, giving outsourcing orders to them and training almost 1,000 engineers for Chinese firms. This has also helped the software giant reduce its development costs.
Microsoft held a Tech Ed 2005 in Beijing on Friday to demonstrate its new products to Chinese customers and developers.
Tang Min, chairwoman of SCS&S and ChinaSoft, said: "China's software industry is facing an unprecedented opportunity in the world and is at the turning point of its transition."
http://www.stallman.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman says that he worked for IBM during his junior year of high school in a non managerial position. While you are factually correct in saying he worked for IBM the apparent intent was to tie RMS' adult behavior to IBM even though he worked for them before he founded the FSF. RMS@IBM - 1969 (junior in high school) RMS@FSF - 1985 (adult at MIT AI Lab)
Context matters.
"Stallman was born in Manhattan. His first access to a computer came during his junior year at high school in 1969. Hired by the IBM New York Scientific Center, Stallman spent the summer after his high-school graduation writing his first program, a preprocessor for the PL/I programming language on the IBM 360. "I first wrote it in PL/I, then started over in assembly language when the PL/I program was too big to fit in the computer", he later said. (Williams 2002, chapter 3)"
According to http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-ipl.html the IBM public license was release in 03 MAY 2005 which would be 36 years after RMS worked for IBM.
Will you admit that your ownership of the facts was faulty?
LOL, you wrote all that when it clearly says "Hired by the IBM New York Scientific Center..." right in the middle of it?
In his JUNIOR YEAR OF HIGH SCHOOL.
Is it really that hard for you to understand the meaning of those words?
ROFL again, obviously you have no idea what you are talking about, and asking me to admit I'm wrong is hysterical. Stallman's first job was with IBM, and he wrote the IPL license for them, as admitted right on the IBM website.
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/newto/
It's painfully apparent who needs to admit their facts are faulty. However, if you need a hint as to who that is, please let me know. Thnx.
LMAO, no it doesn't, it clearly says "the summer after his high school graduation". Wouldn't matter anyway, he without question worked for IBM despite your ridiculous denials. Thanks for turning this thread into a keeper that fully displays the combined ignorance and arrogance of Stallman supporters.
From your link.
"The IBM Public License (IPL) is also a free software license. It was created with the help of FSF founder Richard Stallman."
He may have helped create it, but he wasn't the main developer of said license. Seeing as IBM wanted to make it as GPL compatable as possible it would only make sense to deal with the FSF/RMS.
Oh really? Is this your way of admitting all your posts to this point have been complete bunk?
but he wasn't the main developer of said license.
LOL, and your proof of this is? Let me guess, you don't have any, just like you have been wrong on every point you've tried to make so far.
Seeing as IBM wanted to make it as GPL compatable as possible it would only make sense to deal with the FSF/RMS.
Simply proving you don't have any sense, since you've been arguing that I was wrong when I informed you of it originally.
LOL, no you have not. You need to admit you were wrong when you claimed that Stallman never worked for IBM, that he never worked on the IPL, that I should admit that I was the one who was wrong, and now that you actually admit your mistakes.
Can you actually post anything, with any chance of it being 100% correct and verifiable? So far, no. At least you haven't resorted to calling me names like the others on this thread, although I get the feeling that won't be far off, usually follows a schooling like this pretty soon.
It is rare today to see any sizable piece of consumer electronics for sale in the USA that was NOT made in China. And do you imagine His Gatesness, the consummate Businessman, doing anything else besides pinching the penny until Lincoln cries uncle? What would be news would be Microsoft cranking out Xboxen in Taiwan or Korea.
I'm not nearly as opposed to products coming from US allies like Japan or Taiwan or S. Korea as I am those coming from China, even if they come under the name of a US company. You're right about it getting harder and harder to find products that aren't coming from the Chinese mainland, but at this point I'd probably recommend a Sony Playstation product over an XBOX if you're in the market for one, although I need something more definite than Chinese press claims to make any actual recommendation. But if the reports are true that MS is losing billions on XBOX, looks like the Chicoms are the only ones profiting on the platform, which is quite sickening.
http://news.com.com/2061-10797_3-5884322.html?part=rss&tag=5884322&subj=news
You implied that RMS worked for IBM in a decision making capacity. He did not.
You implied that RMS wrote the IBM PL. He did not.
I have said that I was wrong.
If Xbox indeed ends up being a loser, it will be a rare loser for M$. But I'm sure there are a jillion hardware companies that would be thrilled to vie for the rights to Xbox in a fire sale. Xbox really ought to be a card for a PC; why does the wheel have to be reinvented?
Would you like for me to post yet another extensive compilation of your pathetic trollish posting history?
You bore me.
Ridiculous lie. I referred to him as "a former IBM employee" in post #9 and you claimed he wasn't. The fact you are still arguing is unbelievable, almost, except that I know that's how you people operate.
You implied that RMS wrote the IBM PL. He did not.
I gave you a link from IBM's own website admitting he worked on it, while you still haven't produced one shred of evidence backing up anything you have said on this entire thread.
Continue arguing if you want, that is why I am here, to show you Stallman supporters repeatedly spout lies and then refuse to admit them even when blown completely out of the water.
Let me know when you have anything other than name calling to offer, or ever figure out the difference between a workaround and a patch. Till then, doesn't look like you have much of value to offer.
Consoles aren't reinventing the wheel. They offer an advanced modular design, superior stability, and advanced piracy protection.
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