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Biology expert testifies. Professor: Intelligent design is creationism.
York Dispatch ^ | 9/27/05 | Christina Kauffman

Posted on 09/27/2005 9:10:31 AM PDT by Crackingham

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To: Right Wing Professor
The Law of Universal Gravitation says that bodies will fall towards the enter of the earth. Does that mean it's OK to throw your grandmother downstairs?

No. But throwing your grandmother upstairs violates the Law of Gravity

501 posted on 09/27/2005 8:57:29 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (I'm a CHOP (Chauvanistic Older Person) not a SNAG (Sensitive New Age Guy)
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To: TonyRo76
Then you could be amazed at how much you are truly worth to Him, and truly loved by Him, rather than this ridiculous "Deity in training" program you've got going on.

He's a strange fellow. Tries to convince everyone he loves them by wiping them out with a giant flood and executing his son. I'm thinking he needs to quit it with the crucifixions and start making more use of fluffy bunnies and kitty cats and that sort of thing.

(To put it another way, "Am I dreaming? Are you seriously worshiping yourself?")

What's not to worship? Seriously, people.
502 posted on 09/27/2005 9:00:54 PM PDT by Vive ut Vivas (Deity in training.)
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To: 185JHP
The vile and weak evo theory is circling the drain, and a lot of the hoaxers know it - one reason they're getting so lathered up...

Actually the theory of evolution seems to be doing fine.

However, based on this current trial, ID seems to be circling the drain as did CS before it. They are fine as belief, but I don't think they have any role in science classes.

504 posted on 09/27/2005 9:03:49 PM PDT by Coyoteman (New tagline coming soon)
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To: TonyRo76
The Evolutionist believes that there is no life after death...
And as for the "rape and pillage" part...what other philosophical conclusions would one draw from such a warped worldview?

That we should try to achieve a long well-lived life (since it's the only one available), rather than committing atrocities for the 72 virgins or other reward promised in the afterlife.

505 posted on 09/27/2005 9:07:45 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (I'm a CHOP (Chauvanistic Older Person) not a SNAG (Sensitive New Age Guy)
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To: general_re

The Noah story is about wiping out humans interbred with nephilum, you see Noah wasnt sinless or anything like that
he just wasnt from any mixed marriages or fornications if
you prefer. If you care to read the geneology in Luke you will find Noah in there, it was a massive gene pool cleansing. If you care to know what nephilum are they were described as giants or fallen ones.


507 posted on 09/27/2005 9:11:25 PM PDT by claptrap (optional tag-line under reconsideration)
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To: MineralMan; tamalejoe
When Ferrari engines reproduce naturally, with no human intervention, then your example will make some sense. Since they do not, it doesn't.

The human mind is slightly more complex than a Ferrari engine. Why should one think it developed "naturally," as you say? Because we cannot "see" it's designer?

509 posted on 09/27/2005 9:17:31 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Vive ut Vivas; b_sharp
You don't understand, you're only decent and moral due to the good influence of creationists around you who kindly allow you to have your eccentric and heathen beliefs.

Not correct. It's apparently God's Grace, not anybodies' belief.

A visitor was shown into Bohr's office, and observed a horseshoe hanging over the desk. "Surely," objected the visitor, "you don't believe that hanging up a horseshoe will bring luck!"

"Of course not," scoffed Bohr. "I am a man of science, and I don't believe in these silly superstitions. However," he admitted, I'm told that it works whether you believe in it or not."
God's Grace is like the horseshoe
511 posted on 09/27/2005 9:25:37 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (I'm a CHOP (Chauvanistic Older Person) not a SNAG (Sensitive New Age Guy)
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To: claptrap
Casting pearls before swine again ?

That one hurt. :-(
512 posted on 09/27/2005 9:26:58 PM PDT by Vive ut Vivas (Deity in training.)
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To: Vive ut Vivas

put down the pipe and slowly back away....


513 posted on 09/27/2005 9:29:34 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: Vive ut Vivas
Maybe this is a bad time to ask this but...what is exactly the problem with being "one's own God"?

I'm just not that adorable

514 posted on 09/27/2005 9:29:49 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (I'm a CHOP (Chauvanistic Older Person) not a SNAG (Sensitive New Age Guy)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Maybe the Designer doesnt want you to see him, maybe
the designer is busy designing other things elsewhere.
The designer doesnt want to hold your hand and walk you through stuff he gave you free will, do as you please.
Maybe the designer has sent messengers to you and you
just ignored them or refused their invitation, would you
spend time with anyone who didnt want to be with you?


515 posted on 09/27/2005 9:30:52 PM PDT by claptrap (optional tag-line under reconsideration)
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To: weegee
Now it is wrong for people to believe that God had any hand in the existence of the world?

Yes it is wrong, because children might get the idea that the State isn't the highest power in the universe, and they owe their very existence and loyalty always to the State (except during the times evil Republicans are in power). *kof* *splurgh*

516 posted on 09/27/2005 9:33:28 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Most assuredly God is a danger to our highly technical society (never mind when the power is out) but our highly
refined scientific elite cannot be exposed to primitive
speculative myths. That is why God must be removed at any cost from buildings, documents and above all other peoples minds. That is why the scientific elite will scoff and mock any who dares mention anything about the God of the Bible, any other gods are ok, the koran is ok with them
just dont mention the bible they hate it hate it hate it!
With good reason the God of the Bible has harsh words
for them, the God of the Bible requires something from them
so their disdain is understandable.


517 posted on 09/27/2005 9:47:32 PM PDT by claptrap (optional tag-line under reconsideration)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Are you feeling ok?


518 posted on 09/27/2005 9:55:10 PM PDT by Vive ut Vivas (Deity in training.)
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To: wallcrawlr

Maybe you can put that story in a more pleasing light for me.


519 posted on 09/27/2005 9:58:06 PM PDT by Vive ut Vivas (Deity in training.)
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To: MineralMan
I find it interesting that in a thread of over 500 posts, I would guess that less than 30 actually comment on the article and what was actually said in court.

The biggest admission by Miller is that evolution is not a fact. It also appears that Miller has not identified anything in the statement of the school board that is incorrect.

I think these admissions/unrefuted statements are significant. I suspect that Miller is not prepared to face a skilled cross-examination where he will actually have to answer the questions asked rather than simply saying what he wants.

520 posted on 09/27/2005 10:00:31 PM PDT by connectthedots
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