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Rather's Comforting Words for Mapes: 'F--k 'Em All' (FR mentioned)
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Posted on 09/27/2005 5:44:14 AM PDT by RatherBiased.com

Mary Mapes, the CBS News producer fired for her role in Memogate, has come out with her new book, Truth and Duty : The Press, the President, and the Privilege of Power.

In it she mentions some encouraging words from Dan Rather, offering his support for her in her darkest hour.

I knew I could count on Dan. In tough situations, he became “fightin’ Dan,” someone who told us all to “never back up, never back down, never give up, never give in.” I was glad to hear from him and reassured by his reaction to all of it.

Dan told me he was confident in the story and that he was lucky to work with me. He signed off by saying something that had become a shorthand for us over the years: “F-E-A.” That was code for “F---’Em All,” a sentiment that needed to be expressed from time to time in any newsroom. Dan was too much of a gentleman to say the real thing---at least most of the time. But he knew that when I was under deadline or work pressure I was hard put to find any sentence that couldn’t be improved by the liberal use of the “f”-word. At this point, I deeply appreciated the sentiment.

Mapes also claimed that the first criticism of the documents appeared before 60 Minutes had even ended and before the documents were put up on the CBS website. But the forum hosting the criticism was from the West coast, with an earlier timezone.

Mapes also demonstrated what could be a lack of knowledge about just what it was people were criticizing. She referred to "peripheral spacing" appearing on some typewriters, when the actual term was "proportional spacing."

Within a few minutes, I was online visiting Web sites I had never heard of before: Free Republic, Little Green Footballs, Power Line. They were hard-core, politically angry, hyperconservative sites loaded with vitriol about Dan Rather and CBS. Our work was being compared to that of Jayson Blair, the discredited New York Times reporter who had fabricated and plagiarized stories.

All these Web sites had extensive write-ups on the documents: on typeface, font style, and peripheral spacing, material that seemed to spring up overnight. It was phenomenal. It had taken our analysts hours of careful work to make comparisons. It seemed that these analysts or commentators---or whatever they were---were coming up with long treatises in minutes. They were all linking to one another, creating an echo chamber of outraged agreement.

I was told that the first posting claiming the documents were fakes had gone up on Free Republic before our broadcast was even off the air! How had the Web site even gotten copies of the documents? We hadn’t put them online until later. That first entry, posted by a longtime Republican political activist lawyer who used the name “Buckhead,” set the tone for what was to come.

There was no analysis of what the documents actually said, no work done to look at the content, no comparison with the official record, no phone calls made to check the facts of the story, nothing beyond a cursory and politically motivated examination of the typeface. That was all they had to attack, but that was enough.



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: buckhead; cbs; danrather; mapes; marymapes; memogate; rather; rathergate; tankerkc
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To: add925
"It seemed that these analysts or commentators---or whatever they were---were coming up with long treatises in minutes. They were all linking to one another, creating an echo chamber of outraged agreement."

Yes, Mary, and the worst part about it( for you lefty pukes) is that the people that are now exposing your lies, work for FREE!
61 posted on 09/27/2005 6:27:55 AM PDT by Beagle8U
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To: NordP

crack team = crack POT team. They are so hunkered down in their little wagon circle, they cannot see the forest for the trees.


62 posted on 09/27/2005 6:28:27 AM PDT by bboop (Facts are your friend.)
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To: RatherBiased.com; All

"cursory and politically motivated examination of the typeface. That was all they had to attack, but that was enough."


Well WHAT-EVER the "motivation" behind the typeface exam...the examination of the type-face showed the document to be a forgery! Facts is Facts despite wishes to the contrary!


63 posted on 09/27/2005 6:29:17 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Even when a dog discovers he is barking up a wrong tree, he can still take a leak on it!)
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To: RatherBiased.com
Interesting. So Mary Mapes has a new book out, full of revisionist history.

On the same day, Dan Blather appears live on CSPAN with Marvin Kalb, parroting the same revisioninst tripe (that the Freerepublic posts were before the end of the news broadcast).

I hate be a conspiracy theorist, but I don't believe in coincidences.

64 posted on 09/27/2005 6:29:38 AM PDT by magellan ( by)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia
Fake but true? - Clearly, STUCK ON STUPID!

You've got it all in a nutshell!

65 posted on 09/27/2005 6:29:49 AM PDT by headsonpikes (The Liberal Party of Canada are not b*stards - b*stards have mothers!)
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To: GWB00; Buckhead; Howlin
Any luck in finding the thread? I would love to confront Mary Mapes with the truth again by clarifying the record on when the documents were first analyzed as fraudulent.

Yes, I'd like to be able to demonstrate that she's lying.

I can't find it, though. I've tried "60 Minutes" and "live thread" but it doesn't come up. I wish there were some way to search the content of threads.

Buckhead and Howlin, I know it's almost a year ago, but do you have it saved somewhere?

66 posted on 09/27/2005 6:30:04 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: RatherBiased.com
Free Republic, Little Green Footballs, Power Line. They were hard-core, politically angry, hyperconservative sites loaded with vitriol

And what Rather said and did was not?:

He signed off by saying something that had become a shorthand for us over the years: “F-E-A.” That was code for “F---’Em All,”

What a bunch of pompous A-Holes.

67 posted on 09/27/2005 6:30:29 AM PDT by b4its2late (I was only looking at your nametag, honest!)
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To: RatherBiased.com
They were all linking to one another, creating an echo chamber of outraged agreement.

You mean like ABCBSNBCPBSNYT has done for years?

68 posted on 09/27/2005 6:32:05 AM PDT by not_apathetic_anymore
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To: RightOnline
So she's a liar AND an idiot.

You forgot "moonbat".
That seems to be the only three requirements for writing a book these days that will sell a rousing 10,000 copies!

If I were interested, in 6 months I can buy some for $1.98

69 posted on 09/27/2005 6:33:24 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: proud American in Canada

My post #43.


70 posted on 09/27/2005 6:35:25 AM PDT by TheBigB (I will punch the next person who confuses "you're" and "your". Seriously. Don't test me.)
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To: proud American in Canada
I have been searching for the original live thread of that show--does anyone have it bookmarked?

It would be interesting to post a link to it in this thread.

60 Minutes II started at 8:00pm EDT

TankerKC saying that the memos were in a format not used in the Air Force until 1992. 8:19pm EDT

Buckhead comments on font after CBS posts the memos 11:59pm EDT

71 posted on 09/27/2005 6:35:44 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (We need a strict constructionist - not someone who plays shadow puppet theater with the Constitution)
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To: RatherBiased.com

LOL.....more like lyin dan


72 posted on 09/27/2005 6:36:34 AM PDT by OldFriend (One Man With Courage Makes a Majority ~ Andrew Jackson)
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To: proud American in Canada

I posted it in #51 - see buckhead's post #47 on the thread.


73 posted on 09/27/2005 6:37:33 AM PDT by Zechariah_8_13 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: muawiyah

Getting a job in the MSM means being able to lie with a straight face and then swearing to it when you're caught.


74 posted on 09/27/2005 6:37:45 AM PDT by OldFriend (One Man With Courage Makes a Majority ~ Andrew Jackson)
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To: proud American in Canada; Mo1

Thanks for pinging Howlin and Buckhead, I was just about to.

I find it a great honor to not be liked by Mary Mapes and her See BS cohorts. A great honor.

She's trying to discredit the validity of the challenges to the memo's authenticity through her book. Trying to say the memo's weren't up on the BS website, how could they be identified as false so quickly.

Another demostration of a lying whiner. iow, L.I.B.E.R.A.L.


75 posted on 09/27/2005 6:37:46 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Take the high road. You'll never have to meet a Democrat.)
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To: b4its2late

Hey Mary: F-Y-T. (Ef you too)


76 posted on 09/27/2005 6:38:17 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: johnny7

“All your 'peripheral spacing' are belong to us!”


Excellent!


77 posted on 09/27/2005 6:38:32 AM PDT by groovejedi
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To: dennisw
The prison pictures were sent to Major Hackworth who worked with CBS.....

One's gone to hell and the other's gone into forced retirement.

There is a G-D.

78 posted on 09/27/2005 6:39:07 AM PDT by OldFriend (One Man With Courage Makes a Majority ~ Andrew Jackson)
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To: Paradox
It actually took a few days for the lengthy rebuttals to be posted on the internet. These morons are playing up a conspiracy, oh, how could they have figured it out SOOO fast, when it took our experts HOURS to be wrong? Bunch of Liars...

And they never learn. They tangled with FR once and FR delivered them a knockout punch. Now they want some more? LOL

79 posted on 09/27/2005 6:40:43 AM PDT by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: TheBigB

Thanks for that info, that is nice to see her called on a lie with proof shown AGAIN!


80 posted on 09/27/2005 6:41:55 AM PDT by groovejedi
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