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Armed and dangerous - Flipper the firing dolphin let loose by Katrina
The Observer ^ | September 25, 2005 | Mark Townsend Houston

Posted on 09/25/2005 5:29:32 PM PDT by xjcsa

It may be the oddest tale to emerge from the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Armed dolphins, trained by the US military to shoot terrorists and pinpoint spies underwater, may be missing in the Gulf of Mexico.

Experts who have studied the US navy's cetacean training exercises claim the 36 mammals could be carrying 'toxic dart' guns. Divers and surfers risk attack, they claim, from a species considered to be among the planet's smartest. The US navy admits it has been training dolphins for military purposes, but has refused to confirm that any are missing.

Dolphins have been trained in attack-and-kill missions since the Cold War. The US Atlantic bottlenose dolphins have apparently been taught to shoot terrorists attacking military vessels. Their coastal compound was breached during the storm, sweeping them out to sea. But those who have studied the controversial use of dolphins in the US defence programme claim it is vital they are caught quickly.

Leo Sheridan, 72, a respected accident investigator who has worked for government and industry, said he had received intelligence from sources close to the US government's marine fisheries service confirming dolphins had escaped.

'My concern is that they have learnt to shoot at divers in wetsuits who have simulated terrorists in exercises. If divers or windsurfers are mistaken for a spy or suicide bomber and if equipped with special harnesses carrying toxic darts, they could fire,' he said. 'The darts are designed to put the target to sleep so they can be interrogated later, but what happens if the victim is not found for hours?'

Usually dolphins were controlled via signals transmitted through a neck harness. 'The question is, were these dolphins made secure before Katrina struck?' said Sheridan.

The mystery surfaced when a separate group of dolphins was washed from a commercial oceanarium on the Mississippi coast during Katrina. Eight were found with the navy's help, but the dolphins were not returned until US navy scientists had examined them.

Sheridan is convinced the scientists were keen to ensure the dolphins were not the navy's, understood to be kept in training ponds in a sound in Louisiana, close to Lake Pontchartrain, whose waters devastated New Orleans.

The navy launched the classified Cetacean Intelligence Mission in San Diego in 1989, where dolphins, fitted with harnesses and small electrodes planted under their skin, were taught to patrol and protect Trident submarines in harbour and stationary warships at sea.

Criticism from animal rights groups ensured the use of dolphins became more secretive. But the project gained impetus after the Yemen terror attack on the USS Cole in 2000. Dolphins have also been used to detect mines near an Iraqi port.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Louisiana; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: animals; dolphin; hurricane; katrina; tinfoil
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To: S0122017

Everything you read on the internet is true.


61 posted on 05/10/2006 5:17:47 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: xjcsa
Mark Houston obviously never served in the military since he doesn't grasp the concept of positive control. No sane person would leave a dolphin swimming around in a pool with a poison dart gun strapped on.

Just like soldiers and marines unload and clear their weapons when they come back into camp, and ordinance is downloaded from airplanes when they land, the poison dart guns (if they, in fact exist) would be removed from Flipper when it's sleepy time.

62 posted on 05/10/2006 5:24:09 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Bayonet the wounded!)
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To: avg_freeper

So you don't think they would strap dart guns and bombs on dolphins?

Darpa and their side show freaks already equipped bats with napalm bombs and implanted spy gear in cats.
They previously trained dolphins to colide with mines as an alternative mine sweeper.

Dart guns and bombs are believable. If it wasn't illegal they would have third world children and hobos in their labs right now. Zero respect for anything but themselves.


63 posted on 05/10/2006 5:46:11 AM PDT by S0122017
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To: S0122017
"Dart guns and bombs are believable. If it wasn't illegal they would have third world children and hobos in their labs right now. Zero respect for anything but themselves."

Yes, "DARPA" as well as the before mentioned contingent of "sideshow freaks" are evil zombie like creatures. They are not alive like you and I. They have no kids, dogs, gold fish, bread makers, board games. They've never jumped rope, ate cotton candy, gone to prom, fell on the ice.

Just like the stereotypes seen in movies (which are always correct) they are emotionless automatons living only to make you (particularly you, who knows why) suffer.

64 posted on 05/10/2006 6:07:12 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: avg_freeper

Why do you oversimplify my statement?
Don't you believe that there are people with no respect for life?

The bats equipped with napalmbombs wheren't meant to attack tanks. They where intented to cling to Japanese wooden houses where ordinary people live. The bats would combust and burn alive, and then let the houses burn down.

The grand attack (which never happened) was ofcourse supposed to occur at night, as to kill as much of the sleeping occupants of the houses. This was meant to cause chaos in the cities, and count mostly as a psychological attack.

I dont know or care how many "children and board games"
those monsters have. No normal person could sit behind a desk and coldly devise a plan to kill and maim the maximum amount of ordinary citizens.

Only terrorists and other psychopaths can do that.
Speaking of, Osama has children and im sure he has a boardgame too. Does that mean that he can't be a bad guy and that we should forgive and forgeta' bout it?


65 posted on 05/10/2006 6:21:28 AM PDT by S0122017
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To: S0122017

Your need to dehumanize a group of people, DARPA employees in this example, says much more about you than them.


66 posted on 05/10/2006 6:28:44 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: avg_freeper

You seem to be the one that dehumanize me. Just because they are human, does that mean that they can't be bastards?

Hello! Where have you been all your live, another planet?

You also haven't responded to my posting above. If you think that there is nothing wrong with people that so coldly would murder non-combatants and use animals as office supplies, than why are we fighting terrorists?


67 posted on 05/10/2006 6:32:19 AM PDT by S0122017
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To: tophat9000; avg_freeper

68 posted on 05/10/2006 6:33:13 AM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: S0122017
"You seem to be the one that dehumanize me. Just because they are human, does that mean that they can't be bastards? "

So people in this case are bastards? What other uses of animals do you believe results in a designation of bastard? What about animal test labs. Are they comprised of bastards.

"You also haven't responded to my posting above. If you think that there is nothing wrong with people that so coldly would murder non-combatants and use animals as office supplies, than why are we fighting terrorists?"

OK. How about instead of using animals we use completely inanimate atoms, split them apart and annihilate about 100k "non-combatants" in an instant. Look! No animals harmed.

And since then we have trained the armed services to increase the yield maximizing the potential deaths of "ordinary citizens". It looks like we're going to need to add the armed services to your list of bastards.

It certainly looks as if that list is growing.

And remember that all this started when you stated that DARPA, an organization comprised of ordinary people would,

"have third world children and hobos in their labs"

and have

"Zero respect for anything but themselves".

That is clearly dehumanizing a large group of people.


And now for the Finale!

This article was a complete utter FRAUD!!

Dispelling a myth of dangerous Navy dolphins

It never occurred!! On the basis of a complete (and obvious mind you, I mean come on! POISON DART GUNS!!! How about attack iguanas with missile launchers?) lie you were ready to condemn.

And it really didn't take that much for you to be on their case. Just one stupid tabloid piece from the foreign press.

That's pathetic.

69 posted on 05/10/2006 7:10:33 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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So people in this case are bastards? What other uses of animals do you believe results in a designation of bastard? What about animal test labs. Are they comprised of bastards.

Burning them alive would count as such. Animal test labs still try to prevent as much animal suffering as possible, and their objective is to limit human suffering by discovering new medicines. Darpa would burn animals alive to serve the objective of burning civilians, including children, alive. How can you compare the two?

How about instead of using animals we use completely inanimate atoms, split them apart and annihilate about 100k "non-combatants" in an instant. Look! No animals harmed.

You idiot. I was complaining about peoples lack of respect for life and you think I care more about animals than humans? I think I clearly mentioned how I despised burning people alive. But maybe you have no problem with that. Maybe you have done it yourself and that is why you seem to be personally offended?

And since then we have trained the armed services to increase the yield maximizing the potential deaths of "ordinary citizens". It looks like we're going to need to add the armed services to your list of bastards.

WHAT! Armed services are trained to kill the maximum number of citizens? I dont know what "armed service" you're associated with, but as far as I know military and police are still trying to avoid civilian casualties.

And remember that all this started when you stated that DARPA, an organization comprised of ordinary people would, "have third world children and hobos in their labs" and have "Zero respect for anything but themselves".

If it wasn't illegal they would have third world children and hobos in their labs right now. Zero respect for anything but themselves.

You seriously think they would not experiment on humans? You ever heard of MKultra? Or do you choose to ignore anything those good ol' child bearing board gamers do?

And yes, I think they have no respect for anything other than their own agenda. Unless you use a different definition of respect?

My dictionary says:
1) To feel or show deferential regard for; esteem.
2) To avoid violation of or interference with
3) To relate or refer to; concern.

I consider turning animals into bombs and planning a massacre of non-combatants as "psychological warfare" rather lacking a violation of their rights. It shows no concern for who suffers to serve the Darpa goals either.

What definition of showing respect to others do you have? Fear-based?
70 posted on 05/10/2006 7:54:59 AM PDT by S0122017
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To: S0122017
I'm sorry but you've taken a completely fraudulent tabloid piece to feed your need to hate a group of people.

You are obviously incapable having a rational discussion about this. I have no need to try anymore.

71 posted on 05/10/2006 8:00:54 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: avg_freeper

In other words, I got you so beat with reason that you give up.

With arguments as 'people that play boardgames can't be bastards' I don't blame you.

And don't you go changing the subject either. This was about the long standing history of Darpa of maltreating humans and yes, animals, with utter lack of consideration.
That is why this, apparently fake, article was produced to begin with: because it was perfectly in line with horrific things that they actually DID do.


72 posted on 05/10/2006 8:09:19 AM PDT by S0122017
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To: avg_freeper

And you still haven't answered my question:
If it is ok to slaughter civilians, why are we hunting down terrorists?

And how you figure that I hate anything? Or are you suggesting that anyone that has a problem massacres of civilians must be hatefull? Weird person you are...


73 posted on 05/10/2006 8:14:33 AM PDT by S0122017
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