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Senate Considers Ban on 'Lifers' from National Cemeteries
Fox News ^ | 9/25/05 | Jacqueline Ruttiman

Posted on 09/25/2005 3:12:41 PM PDT by wagglebee

WASHINGTON — The elderly couple, Daniel and Wilda Davis, opened their door to Russell Wayne Wagner on Valentine's Day 1994.

"He took Mom and Dad and sat them on a kitchen chair, tied their hands behind their heads and put a pillowcase over their heads, stabbed them 14-15 times and then he robbed them and then he left," their son, Vernon Davis, tearfully told the Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee Thursday.

Wagner was convicted of the couple's murders and sentenced to two life terms with parole eligibility. When he died in prison, he was cremated and placed in the nation's premiere veterans' cemetery: Arlington National Cemetery.

That was "totally wrong," Davis told the committee, which is trying to determine how the rules governing cemeteries should be changed to prevent such burials in the future.

"It's an honorable place for people to go, not a murderer," Davis said. "I wish you'd change the law."

The couple's great granddaughter, a papergirl, found them the next day, he said.

Davis' powerful testimony came after Sen. Barbara A. Mikulski, D-Md., requested a panel hearing to review the rules and regulations for who is allowed to rest in national cemeteries.

While Wagner was punished for his crime, he was rewarded with an inurnment with full military honors at Arlington Cemetery for his service as a Vietnam War veteran through a "parole loophole" in the current 1997 law dealing with who qualifies for national cemetery burial.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arlington; arlingtoncemetery; criminals; fubar; military; murderers; nationalcemeteries; veterans
There is absolutely no reason these monsters should be allowed to rest with our fallen heroes.
1 posted on 09/25/2005 3:12:43 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: Former Military Chick

Ping.


2 posted on 09/25/2005 3:13:03 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

It would seem that if you can be deprived of the 2nd amendment for a felony, that burial in a national cemetery
would be easy to stop.


3 posted on 09/25/2005 3:16:29 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: wagglebee

I think his ashes should be evicted.


4 posted on 09/25/2005 3:18:04 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: wagglebee

No, they shouldn't be allowed any type of military honor. My uncle all but killed his parents with his own hand. When he burned himself up (there is justice) the Air Force sent a plane over for his funeral. He was not honorable.


5 posted on 09/25/2005 3:25:43 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: wagglebee

This is an outrage. What person stood by, knowing this man was a murderer, and allowed this to happen?


6 posted on 09/25/2005 3:27:12 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: wagglebee

That's just wrong. They should dig this guy's ashes up and throw them in the trash heap, where they belong.


7 posted on 09/25/2005 3:32:18 PM PDT by jocon307 (Sorry for my bad attitude)
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To: wagglebee
Wagner was convicted of the couple's murders and sentenced to two life terms with parole eligibility. When he died in prison, he was cremated and placed in the nation's premiere veterans' cemetery: Arlington National Cemetery.

He should be dug up and thrown out of Arlington, the same way they dug up Clinton's Tomb Of The Unknown Donor, Larry Lawrence, and shipped his grisly 'Rat remains back to Kalifornia.

8 posted on 09/25/2005 3:35:28 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: wagglebee
Man, I thought for a minute that "lifer" was referring to career military guys, not life-sentance felons. Who would object to banning them? I'd be unmoved if they were dumped in a unmarked pit and covered in lye.
9 posted on 09/25/2005 3:39:57 PM PDT by LexBaird (tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: LexBaird

Calling a career serviceman or woman a 'lifer' is a grievous
insult...

imo


10 posted on 09/25/2005 4:02:10 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: joesnuffy

Uh, "life" in prison?


11 posted on 09/25/2005 4:27:38 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: joesnuffy

Maybe so, but I have heard it used. Usually in regards to a senior NCO. "Sgt. Rock is a lifer. He has hash marks from wrist to shoulder." I thought from the headline that the concern was about Arlington running out of room, and that the Senate was going to do something stupid. Glad to see I was mistaken.


12 posted on 09/25/2005 4:45:01 PM PDT by LexBaird (tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: wagglebee
Let's see.. 1997... who was president?

This sounds like no one wanted to deny a murderer since his psychosis might be service related.

13 posted on 09/25/2005 5:07:39 PM PDT by GoBucks2002
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To: GoBucks2002

Oh brother are you right on! Whoever was Tnediserp in 1997 buried all kinds of felons in sacred Arlington. Some of their stinking remains were later exhumed in the dead of night, so stay tuned.


14 posted on 09/25/2005 5:13:27 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: wagglebee
Pathetic...........leftist nonsense.....synonomous to OJ being entitled to be in the NFL Hall of Fame.......even if he WERE convicted of murder.

Convicted murderers do NOT belong in Arlington just because they served honorably in the military.

15 posted on 09/25/2005 5:21:44 PM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: wagglebee

This makes me sick to my stomach. To have this animal laid to rest amidst the heroes is just sickening. Only those that have been honorable during their service AND their lives should be laid there.


16 posted on 09/25/2005 5:49:52 PM PDT by HomeFree (Proud REDgistered voter!)
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To: wagglebee
Of course, it's a travesty to commit common criminals to be put to rest next to our nation's heroes. But...

Russell Wayne Wagner

Seriously...what's the deal? At this point, you could almost sue parents for negligence if they give their child that middle name.
17 posted on 09/25/2005 6:02:47 PM PDT by Turbopilot (Nothing in the above post is or should be construed as legal research, analysis, or advice.)
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To: wagglebee

Pull his ashes out and dump them down a toilet.


18 posted on 09/25/2005 6:04:55 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: joesnuffy

As I recall (growing up in the military) it was quite common. Don't really know if it was considered insulting, but it didn't seem to be.


19 posted on 09/25/2005 7:38:14 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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