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Teenage punks behind black hijabs
The Times (UK) ^ | September 24, 2005 | Janice Turner

Posted on 09/25/2005 2:44:19 PM PDT by aculeus

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To: tet68

I kinda doubt it. The hajib is just a head scarf.


21 posted on 09/25/2005 3:02:36 PM PDT by ItsForTheChildren
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To: tet68
They probably wear the thong under the hajib.

Drag queens have obviously found a new uniform.

22 posted on 09/25/2005 3:03:09 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (The Price of Freedom is Written on the Wall.)
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To: jocon307

Did you actually read the article?

I'd be happy if more teenage girls were disturbed a lack of moral values in the behaviour of their peers to be honest.


23 posted on 09/25/2005 3:05:13 PM PDT by Canard
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To: aculeus

This is an excellent article; I wish people would read the whole thing before commenting.

It really shows how our pop culture is undermining our fight to preserve Western civilization.

It's funny, because the same leftists and hedonists that are quick to blame the West for attacks by Muslims on us, are themselves creating the vile societal trends (skank fashion, homogamy, etc.) that is helping turn the Muslims to anti-Westernism.

A revival of the Christian aspects of our culture is the surest way to save the West.


24 posted on 09/25/2005 3:06:34 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: flashbunny
...they're just pretty much being youthful idiots.

That's what Lenin would have said about them if he lisped.

25 posted on 09/25/2005 3:07:20 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really needed?)
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To: flashbunny
dunno, are they the ones that like to play dress up and think they're doing something really different or courageous?

My experiences with them have been more positive than I expected. I've also found them to be a bit more conservative than their counterparts.

26 posted on 09/25/2005 3:07:50 PM PDT by bad company ( Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Polybius
Actually, she seems to be rebelling against the same thing I have taught my daughter to rebel against. Pointed in the right direction, she would make a good conservative.

Excellent point. The young lady's reasoning is typically teenage, but she's correct that there is much in modern Western society against which a young woman should take a stand.

Her main error is in identifying Islamic culture as something better.

27 posted on 09/25/2005 3:08:45 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Start the revolution - I'll bring the tea and muffins!)
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To: aculeus

If you don't like Great Britain, go find a country that you like. Great Britain has no interest in being remade according to your tastes.


28 posted on 09/25/2005 3:09:20 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: aculeus

And the Left says the Root Causes of Terrorism and Environmental Degredation.

Ha!


29 posted on 09/25/2005 3:09:26 PM PDT by Sometimes A River (Will the next President inherit George W. Bush's hurricane making machine?)
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To: Canard

"Did you actually read the article? "

Yes I read it. These little facists are happy to be subversives in a free society. Send them over to Saudi Arabia, Iran or most nations in dar-es-Islam and see how they do.

You find them funny, that makes it clear to me that you DON'T have a daughter. Because if you did, you wouldn't find it so funny. Remember the 60s, remember Hanoi Jane, out of control adolescent girls can do a lot of damage.

I'd cheerfully strangle the one in the article, and if I ran Britain she'd be on a plane tonight.


30 posted on 09/25/2005 3:09:39 PM PDT by jocon307 (Sorry for my bad attitude)
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To: jocon307

Polybius said it better than me in post 18. Please refer to that.

"And what does that “British culture” mean to an 18-year-old Muslim girl? The stereotype she draws is dismaying: a national taste for getting bladdered at nightclubs, an insistence that girls wear sexy, skimpy clothes, are judged solely on their looks and whether they’ll put out for boys."

Are any of those things that you'd be happy for your daughter to endorse? There's is nothing mentioned in the interview that can be remotely described as 'subversive'.


31 posted on 09/25/2005 3:13:28 PM PDT by Canard
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To: aculeus

The interviewer forgot to ask if she was thankful to be allowed to attend school in England. Tony should show her and her cohorts the border.


32 posted on 09/25/2005 3:14:56 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: aculeus
So why don’t citzenship classes teach that when multiculturalism works it is because British tolerance has made it possible?

A common characteristic of all Muslims is that they are:

Stuck on stupid

This is quite literally true. Islam has held Muslim culture in the 7th century AD.

33 posted on 09/25/2005 3:16:55 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Lt. Gen. Russel Honore to MSM: "You are stuck on stupid. Over.")
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To: aculeus

She should have been asked what she thought was positive about Sharia.


35 posted on 09/25/2005 3:18:29 PM PDT by junta (It's Jihad stupid!)
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To: Canard........... Of course I have a daughter. I have a daughter who is not trying to undermine the society she lives in. You find this amusing?

There are many sub-cultures within Western society as a whole.

The sub-culture of San Francisco is not the sub-culture of the Bible Belt.

Where I live on the Left Coast, a very high percentage of teenagers do have a habit of getting stoned and insist that girls wear sexy, skimpy clothes be judged solely on their looks and whether they’ll put out for boys.

That is, except for substituting "stoned" for "bladdered at a nightclub every night", exactly what this girl said she was rebelling against.

I have taught my daughter to rebel against that local sub-culture and I am proud to say that she has.

The so-called "society" this girl is rebelling against is not really a "society" but the same decadent sub-cultures we conservatives are rebelling against.

36 posted on 09/25/2005 3:19:55 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: junta

"She should have been asked what she thought was positive about Sharia."

Given that she thinks women should be allowed to vote, testify in court and should not be compelled to wear the hijab, we can infer that she wouldn't be too positive about it.


37 posted on 09/25/2005 3:21:01 PM PDT by Canard
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To: Polybius

"The so-called "society" this girl is rebelling against is not really a "society" but the same decadent sub-cultures we conservatives are rebelling against."

Exactly. And, if a teenage girl was making exactly the same points, and rebelling against the subculture by esposuing her Christian beliefs, I don't think anyone would bat an eyelid, much less endorse beheading her...


38 posted on 09/25/2005 3:23:32 PM PDT by Canard
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To: aculeus

Probably just FT teenage angst, but since it's the TROP I'd follow her and her mates and shoot a lot of video.


39 posted on 09/25/2005 3:25:54 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: F15Eagle

"Talk about weird values. Hate immoral behaviour but have no problem with terrorism."

EXACTLY. Give me a non-muderous slut anyday over these hajib wearing terrorists, or future terrorists, or terrorist sympathizers.

Anyone who wants their daughter to live like that, try and move to Saudi Arabia, of course they won't have you, if your an infidel. Convert and put your butt in the air to worship the moon-god, then you'll be in.


40 posted on 09/25/2005 3:28:32 PM PDT by jocon307 (Sorry for my bad attitude)
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