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Andrew Sullivan: Is Bush a socialist? He's spending like one
The Sunday Times ^ | 9/25/05

Posted on 09/25/2005 10:56:29 AM PDT by Uncle Joe Cannon

September 25, 2005

The Sunday Times

Andrew Sullivan: Is Bush a socialist? He's spending like one

Finally, finally, finally. A few years back, your correspondent noticed something a little odd about George W Bush’s conservatism. If you take Margaret Thatcher’s dictum that a socialist is someone who is very good at spending other people’s money, then President Bush is, er, a socialist.

Sure, he has cut taxes, a not-too-difficult feat when your own party controls both houses of Congress. But spending? You really have to rub your eyes, smack yourself on the forehead and pour yourself a large gin and tonic. The man can’t help himself.

The first excuse was the war. After 9/11 and a wobbly world economy, that was a decent excuse. Nobody doubted that the United States needed to spend money to beef up homeland security, avert deflation, overhaul national preparedness for a disaster, and fight a war on terror. But when Katrina revealed that, after pouring money into both homeland security and Louisiana’s infrastructure, there was still no co-ordinated plan to deal with catastrophe, a few foreheads furrowed.

Then there was the big increase in agricultural subsidies. Then the explosion in pork barrel spending. Then the biggest new entitlement since Lyndon Johnson, the Medicare drug benefit. Then a trip to Mars. When you add it all up, you get the simple, devastating fact that Bush, in a mere five years, has added $1.5 trillion to the national debt. The interest on that debt will soon add up to the cost of two Katrinas a year.

Remember when conservatism meant fiscal responsibility? In a few years, few people will be able to. I used to write sentences that began with the phrase: “Not since Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society spending binge. . .” I can’t write that any more. Johnson — the guns and butter president of liberalism’s high-water mark — was actually more fiscally conservative than the current inhabitant of the White House. LBJ boosted domestic discretionary spending in inflationadjusted dollars by a mere 33.4%.

In five years, Bush has increased it 35.1%. And that’s before the costs for Katrina and Rita and the Medicare benefit kick in. Worse, this comes at a time when everyone concedes that we were facing a fiscal crunch before Bush started handing out dollar bills like a drunk at a strip club. With the looming retirement of America’s baby-boomers, the US needed to start saving, not spending; cutting, not expanding its spending habits.

This was one reason I found myself forced to endorse John Kerry last November. He was easily the more fiscally conservative candidate. Under Clinton, the US actually ran a surplus for a while (thanks, in part, to the Gingrich-run Congress). But most conservatives bit their tongues. Bush promised fiscal tightening in his second term and some actually believed him.

They shouldn’t have. When Bush casually dismissed questions about funding the $200 billion Katrina reconstruction with a glib “It’s going to cost what it costs”, steam finally blew out of some loyal Republican ears. When the house majority leader Tom DeLay told the conservative Washington Times that there was no fat left to cut in the budget and that “after 11 years of Republican majority we’ve pared it down pretty good”, a few conservatives lost it.

Here’s the chairman of the American Conservative Union: “Excluding military and homeland security, American taxpayers have witnessed the largest spending increase under any preceding president and Congress since the Great Depression.” That would be correct. When you have doubled spending on education in four years, launched two wars and a new mega-entitlement, that tends to happen.

Here’s Peggy Noonan, about as loyal a Republican as you’ll find, in a Wall Street Journal column last week: “George W Bush is a big spender. He has never vetoed a spending bill. When Congress serves up a big slab of fat, crackling pork, Mr Bush responds with one big question: Got any barbecue sauce?”

Here’s Ann Coulter, the Michael Moore of the far right, a pundit whose book on liberalism was titled Treason: “Bush has already fulfilled all his campaign promises to liberals and then some! He said he’d be a ‘compassionate conservative’, which liberals interpreted to mean that he would bend to their will, enact massive spending programmes, and be nice to liberals. When Bush won the election, that sealed the deal. It meant the Democrats won.

“Consequently, Bush has enacted massive new spending programmes, obstinately refused to deal with illegal immigration, opposed all conservative Republicans in their primary races, and invited Teddy Kennedy over for movie night. He’s even sent his own father to socialise with ageing porn star Bill Clinton.” Ouch.

Conservatives have been quietly frustrated with Bush for a long time now. Honest neoconservatives have long privately conceded that the war in Iraq has been grotesquely mishandled. But in deference to their own party, they spent last year arguing that John Kerry didn’t deserve his Vietnam war medals. Social conservatives have just watched as the president’s nominee for chief justice of the Supreme Court pronounced that the constitutional right to abortion on demand merited respect as a legal precedent. This hasn’t cheered them up. The nativist right, long enraged by illegal immigration, has been spluttering about foreigners for a while now. But since few want to question the war publicly, oppose the president’s nominees to the court, or lose the Latino vote, the spending issue has become the focus of everyone’s discontent.

All I can say is: about time. I believe in lower taxes. But I also believe in basic fiscal responsibility. If you do not cut spending to align with lower taxes, you are merely borrowing from the next generation. And if a Republican president has legitimised irresponsible spending, what chance is there that a Democrat will get tough?

This may, in fact, be Bush’s real domestic legacy. All a Democratic successor has to do is raise taxes to pay for his splurge, and we will have had the biggest expansion of government power, size and responsibility since the 1930s. What would Reagan say? What would Thatcher? But those glory days are long gone now — and it was a Republican president and Congress that finally buried them.


TOPICS: Editorial; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 109th; biggovernment; federalspending; gop; nannystate; otherpeoplesmoney; outofcontrolspending; porkaddicts; spendingspree; stopmebeforeispend; taxandspendgopers
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To: johnmecainrino

"Bush is trying to cut Medicare, Bush's budget had a lot of cuts it was the dems and rino's that stopped those cuts."

How did he try? Did he try to not sign the bill, yet somehow his pen went right ahead and did it anyway? The President has a very clearly mandated constitutional role when it comes to bills coming to him from Congress. Firstly, he decides if he approves or disapproves of the bill. If he approves, he signs it.

Your argument seems to be that Bush doesn't approve of the bills, yet is signing them anyway? That is what you're saying, right? To what would you ascribe this abrogation of his mandated role?


221 posted on 09/25/2005 4:47:19 PM PDT by Canard
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To: durasell

I'm not sure it's an advertisement for a book that it is responsible for more people entering the field of economics than any other. Shouldn't that require an apology? ;-)


222 posted on 09/25/2005 4:52:59 PM PDT by I8NY
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon


To counter socialism:
http://www.neoperspectives.com/club_for_growth.htm



223 posted on 09/25/2005 5:04:51 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/janicerogersbrown.htm)
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To: Canard

Most bills the president has no power over whether they pass or not. For example the recent transportation bill passed with a veto proof margin making Bush's signature meaningless.


224 posted on 09/25/2005 5:11:53 PM PDT by johnmecainrino
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To: Keith

Bush can veto bills and he has not vetoed a single one!


225 posted on 09/25/2005 5:17:13 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: johnmecainrino
For example the recent transportation bill passed with a veto proof margin making Bush's signature meaningless.

He could still veto it and force the congress to override it. It is unlikely that GOP congressmen would override a spending bill veto if Bush made the case that it was not fiscally responsible.

226 posted on 09/25/2005 5:23:03 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: thelastvirgil
Clinton's surplus

Sorry, but that did not exist.

227 posted on 09/25/2005 5:23:55 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: All
"Is Bush a socialist? He's spending like one"

I think that "America" is the one spending like socialists. I think Bush judged that it was inevitable that we would elect representative that would promise and spend us to the brink of insolvency. Bush judged that saying no to every opposition program was not the hill he was going to die on.

It’s impossible to increase the fiscal size of government long term without raising taxes. Bush lowered them 3 times and shows no sign of weakening.

It’s freak’n revolutionary. Brilliant! I can't believe that more can't see it!

228 posted on 09/25/2005 5:23:56 PM PDT by elfman2 (2 tacos short of a combination plate)
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To: elfman2
It’s impossible to increase the fiscal size of government long term without raising taxes. Bush lowered them 3 times and shows no sign of weakening.

Deficit spending is a de facto tax increase. The borrowed money will have to be paid back through later taxation - with interest.

The tax cuts will just be reversed and then some once the deficit gets sufficiently high. The tax cuts will get the blame for the deficit - rather than the spending - and the public will be soured on tax cuts for a generation.

229 posted on 09/25/2005 5:27:47 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: blindsideknight
Welcome to Free Republic.

I find it interesting that, of all things, you focus on NCLB. Want to expand on that?

230 posted on 09/25/2005 5:28:39 PM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "Great point." -- AliVertias; ":-) Very clever" -- MJY1288)
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon
Americans love big government. For example, the only reason people didn't like Hillary's health care plan is because they were convinced that their health care would be worse under Hillary's plan - not because such a redistributionist scheme is fundamentally immoral.

Agreed.

And I believe the reason Bill Clinton stayed in office is the American's 401Ks were doing so well, that the public didn't want the boat rocked for fear of losing some money in the stock market. - tom

231 posted on 09/25/2005 5:35:13 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: JeffAtlanta
"The tax cuts will just be reversed "

No. They won’t. Tax hikes generate less revenue. You know that. Taxes are probably roughly optimized for revenue generation right now. Bush screwed the left, got in on the credit for their programs and left them with no more money to create more. It’s genius.

232 posted on 09/25/2005 5:37:24 PM PDT by elfman2 (2 tacos short of a combination plate)
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To: elfman2
No. They won’t. Tax hikes generate less revenue. You know that

Yet Reagan's tax cuts were reversed.

Tax hikes don't always generate less revenue either. It depends on a lot of factors. A 40% tax rate will surely generate more revenue than a 90% tax rate but it will also generate more revenue than a 1% rate as well.

It is a moot point anyway. The american public just doesn't by the lower taxes equals more revenue.

233 posted on 09/25/2005 5:44:30 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: I8NY

LOL!

It's still a cool book.


234 posted on 09/25/2005 6:04:10 PM PDT by durasell
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To: JeffAtlanta
"Yet Reagan's tax cuts were reversed."

Were they really? I don’t recall how significant Clinton’s tax hikes were, but I’m sure then didn’t come near reversing Reagan’s cuts. X42’s increased revenue came from the peace dividend and the tech bubble.

It could be said with equal validity that it’s a moot point what Americans believe can be achieved from tax hikes. Try it, and revenue goes down. And the more it’s tried the less ambiguous the correlation becomes.

235 posted on 09/25/2005 6:04:43 PM PDT by elfman2 (2 tacos short of a combination plate)
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To: elfman2

Depends if you're talking local, state or federal taxes. It will probably necessary to raise taxes significantly at local and state levels in the near future.


236 posted on 09/25/2005 6:08:52 PM PDT by durasell
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To: ThinkDifferent
He would have tried, but Republicans in Congress would have stopped him. If Kerry had proposed anything like Bush's prescription drug giveaway, the GOP would have correctly shot it down. Gridlock is the best hope for fiscal discipline, but the Democrats are too dangerous on foreign policy to let them anywhere near the White House.

Well said.

237 posted on 09/25/2005 6:11:17 PM PDT by sargon (How could anyone have voted for the socialist, weak-on-defense fraud named John Kerry?)
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To: va4me

Bush can claim that he is a social conservative, but his next Supreme Court nominee will either support or refute that claim.


238 posted on 09/25/2005 6:19:40 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: durasell
"It will probably necessary to raise taxes significantly at local and state levels in the near future."

Talk like that is why Schwarzenegger was elected in a Democrat state. It’s also why 3500 people move to Florida every day. And these are probably disproportionately the kind of productive people who pay taxes. That’s not a way around it.

239 posted on 09/25/2005 6:20:30 PM PDT by elfman2 (2 tacos short of a combination plate)
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To: elfman2

...and here I thought they were moving to Florida for the Early Bird Specials and the chance to eat dinner at ten in the morning.

Seriously, costs of keeping the lights on at the state and local levels are going up. I talked to someone not long ago who is paying close to $30k in property taxes and happy for the opportunity, since they feel their kid's getting a good education and the streets are clean.


240 posted on 09/25/2005 6:29:30 PM PDT by durasell
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