[EQAndyBuzz]

I think everyone here should take a chill pill.

This is bigger than both Clinton and Bush. This is about OUR civil liberties and how the government keeps track of all of us.

We complain how the government wants to keep tabs on us. Democrat or Republican, it doesn't matter. When ID cards were mentioned, we went ballistic. When anything that could truly hurt us comes before us, we rise up and say NO.

Now imagine this. At any given time, any person in this country could be tracked. They know if you have a gun, they know where you shop, what you buy, who you talk to on the phone, who your friends and acquaintences are, who you are dating, her or maybe his family and relations. Think about it a minute.

Now think about what Able Danger is. Think about how they found Atta. Now go one step further. Think about who they cannot find because those people are here without records.

Able Danger is going to expose credit card companies, financial institutions, service organizations, police departments, who knows? Because all of their information probably filtered through something like Able Danger.

This is one thing our government doesn't want us to know about. Question is, do we really want to know?"

[Reactionary]

"Question is, do we really want to know?"

Yeah. I want to know why 3,000 Americans were murdered by terrorists the government knew were operating on American soil.

And I don't care which party is destroyed because of it.

[GregoryFul]

Can you imagine state governments getting everyone's credit/debit card records into their computers, then tracking everybody who has not paid "sales and use" tax on out of state purchases. Ouch!

[Tench_Coxe]

"This is one thing our government doesn't want us to know about. Question is, do we really want to know?" "

I do. And I want others to know.

[cwb]

"We complain how the government wants to keep tabs on us. Democrat or Republican, it doesn't matter. When ID cards were mentioned, we went ballistic. When anything that could truly hurt us comes before us, we rise up and say NO."

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You have a point. In fact, FEMA is another good example of this, as well. It was only 5-6 years ago (before Y2K) that many people (including some here) thought FEMA had way too much power. If you do a Google of FEMA and "secret government" you'll see post after post of people who were scared to death of what Clinton had in store for this country and FEMA had we had any serious Y2K problems.

Since the hurricanes, it's kind of scary listening to some of these same people demanding we give FEMA even greater authority. If one wants to engage in conspiracy, one could say that the Louisiana Democrats lack of response to Katrina was a deliberate attempt to further expand the power of the federal government.

Besides the irony, it is rather suspicious that a governor who sought to defend her states sovereignty by refusing federal assistance (and fear of Martial Law) would suddenly now claim (along with many others) that Feds need to be even more responsible for the states. This whole thing stinks.