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The Brady people are both nuts and evil
Common Sense and Wonder ^ | 23 September 2005 | Jerry Scharf

Posted on 09/24/2005 9:40:20 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln

More proof that the anti-gunners are more interested in taking away your right to defend yourself than in making effective policy. Mrs. Brady, Cindy Sheehan, Jane Fonda, the faces of the Left in America.

GUN CONTROL

Group opposed to new gun law targets tourists Gun-control advocates will warn visitors to Florida that a new state self-defense law that starts Oct. 1 puts them in jeopardy. Gov. Jeb Bush's spokeswoman called the campaign `ridiculous.' (MARY ELLEN KLAS-Miami Herald)

TALLAHASSEE - Enter Florida at your own risk. That's the message supporters of gun control are sending in an ad campaign designed to warn visitors about Florida's new law allowing victims to shoot first in self-defense without fear of prosecution.

The law, passed by the Florida Legislature in the spring and signed by Gov. Jeb Bush, takes effect Oct. 1. That's the day the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence will start its newspaper ad campaign in London, Chicago, Boston and Detroit and hand out fliers to arriving passengers at Miami International Airport.

The new law ''may lead to the reckless use of guns on the streets of Florida cities,'' the one-page flier reads. The ads will warn that after Oct. 1, visitors ''face a greater risk of bodily harm in Florida,'' said Peter Hamm, spokesman for the Washington-based advocacy group.

The fliers urge tourists to take precautions, such as: ''Do not argue unnecessarily with local people,'' and ''keep your hands in plain sight'' if you are involved in a traffic accident or a near-miss.

THE LAW

Under the law, which was passed at the urging of the National Rifle Association, Floridians may use deadly force against an attacker, even if they could have fled, and requires prosecutors to presume that they acted in self-defense.

''We are not trying to scare people, the Florida Legislature scared people,'' Hamm said.

The Brady Coalition is urging the Legislature to repeal the law, but short of that, ''we think people need to be aware of this new law,'' Hamm said. ``They need to act accordingly and they need to make their decision to come to Florida accordingly.''

The governor's office blasted the campaign as a gimmick to inflame public opinion with false information.

''We think this is ridiculous,'' said Alia Faraj, the governor's spokeswoman. ``Florida's crime rate has reached a 34-year low and the 80 million visitors who came to our state can attest to that. It's tragic that they would use gimmicks like that to scare people.''

The measure expanded Florida's ''castle doctrine'' law -- named after the philosophy that ''a man's home is his castle'' -- which holds that a person has a right to shoot first in self-defense in his home.

The previous law required anyone attacked in a public place to retreat first before using deadly force in self-defense, but the new law removed the obligation to flee. Gun-rights supporters say the change will serve as a stronger deterrent against crime.

Lawmakers adopted the proposal 94-20 in the Florida House, unanimously in the Senate and the governor signed it into law at a special ceremony with the NRA.

Some prosecutors warned the law would legalize duels, by allowing bar fights and neighborhood squabbles to escalate into gunfights. Other law-enforcement officials supported the measure, saying it did little to alter the practical effect of existing law.

OTHER STATES

The NRA exported the measure to others states as model legislation. A bill with identical language is now pending before the Michigan legislature, and Brady's group is determined to halt its progress.

The group's main concern is that the law will be abused to defend people who shoot in the emotional rage that often accompanies domestic violence, when people are under the influence of alcohol or during incidents of road rage, Hamm said. He said the law has already been used as a defense in at least one case -- a Sarasota man who shot a driver he thought had slashed his tires -- and is likely to be used again.

''We want to start a genuine conversation about repealing this law and the sooner the better because, unfortunately, there will probably have to be some unnecessary violence before the Legislature takes notice,'' he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Michigan
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Lando

1 posted on 09/24/2005 9:40:21 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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To: Lando Lincoln
'We want to start a genuine conversation about repealing this law'

Whenever the left talks about conversation, they really mean a monologue.

2 posted on 09/24/2005 9:44:16 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: Lando Lincoln

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The group's main concern is that the law will be abused to defend people who shoot in the emotional rage that often accompanies domestic violence, when people are under the influence of alcohol or during incidents of road rage"

Aw crap........I would love to see the rap sheets of the people who do this.


3 posted on 09/24/2005 9:46:58 PM PDT by calrighty
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To: Joe Brower

More proof that the anti-gunners are more interested in taking away your right to defend yourself than in making effective policy. Mrs. Brady, Cindy Sheehan, Jane Fonda, the faces of the Left in America.


PING


4 posted on 09/24/2005 9:47:13 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Outraged about a red crescent at Flight 93 Memorial? Call 1-814- 443-4557 to leave comments.)
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To: Lando Lincoln

In other words: "We know best, and you are incapable of deciding when lethal force is warranted. Lets leave it to the trained professionals." Gosh I can't stand liberals.


5 posted on 09/24/2005 9:49:46 PM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: Lando Lincoln

"An armed society is a polite society."

Lefties should realize that they are surrounded by people with guns wherever in the world they go: cops, soldiers and criminals--and the the sets are not disjoint. They should also realize that for every armed idiot who would misuse a gun, there are fifty armed citizens who would forcefully object to such misbehavior.


6 posted on 09/24/2005 9:51:04 PM PDT by sourcery (Givernment: The way the average voter spells "government.")
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To: Lando Lincoln
Remember when you engage a dimlib in a debate about gun control, whatever he says are his reasons for thinking this way is blatant subterfuge. They won't talk about their real reasons, because they have nothing to do with safety and everything to do with our vulnerability.

Remember that citizens' guns were the first thing the Nazis and the Soviets wanted from their citizens. They cannot take over this country as long as we are armed, and they know that. In order to institute Marxism for all of us gut little proletariats and comrades, first they must collect all the guns.

That is their sole motivation, and don't let them distract you with double-talk.

7 posted on 09/24/2005 10:11:04 PM PDT by Marauder (The height of hypocrisy: Members of congress upset because someone lied to them.)
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To: Lando Lincoln

bump.


8 posted on 09/24/2005 10:19:49 PM PDT by cgk (When the BIG ONE wipes out Hollywood can we call it Bush's Fault instead of the San Andreas Fault?)
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To: Marauder
Remember that citizens' guns were the first thing the Nazis and the Soviets wanted from their citizens.

More recently, the New Orleans Police Department made a pretty good run at it as well.

9 posted on 09/24/2005 10:20:11 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Lando Lincoln
Why do lefties not openly advertise their anti gun attitude in public? Just wear a badge to "openly" show your support for disarmament. I mean if criminals know that you do not adhere to the laws of physics or the fact that gun powder does not explode in you presence, I am most certainly sure that you will not be harmed.

But as for me I do not have that kind of trust or "faith". Kill those rat bastards before they threaten my family.
10 posted on 09/24/2005 10:20:40 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Shiite Muslim named Bob.)
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To: Lando Lincoln
The new law ''may lead to the reckless use of guns on the streets of Florida cities,'' the one-page flier reads.

The definative word here is "may"

And the Brady types may be moonbats

11 posted on 09/24/2005 10:31:10 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Lando Lincoln
The new law ''may lead to the reckless use of guns on the streets of Florida cities,''

That is technically true. It may just do that.

By the same logic, the new law may lead flying monkeys to circle the moon every third night singing "God Bless America" and playing accordions.

It may just do that. And that's just as likely as the Brady Bunch's fantasy scenario.

12 posted on 09/24/2005 10:32:20 PM PDT by pillbox_girl
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To: pillbox_girl

They left out their other favorite "resonable people would agree"


13 posted on 09/24/2005 10:36:53 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Lando Lincoln
Clicked on the link and found a wonderful "cell" from the Simpsons (when Homer went 3-D) and nothing else.

Bad link or good joke?

14 posted on 09/24/2005 11:03:21 PM PDT by mumps
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To: Lando Lincoln
The fliers urge tourists to take precautions, such as: ''Do not argue unnecessarily with local people,'' and ''keep your hands in plain sight'' if you are involved in a traffic accident or a near-miss.

Can't argue with that part.

-ccm

15 posted on 09/24/2005 11:46:45 PM PDT by ccmay (Question Diversity)
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To: mumps
Wow....just checked it out for myself. That was the trackback address given with the article. I think the joke is on me! Gee, that is strange.

Lando

16 posted on 09/25/2005 4:54:14 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln (The general public doesn't pay attention enough........to care enough.)
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To: JulieRNR21
The political left strains so feverishly to deprive the common man of his intrinsic right to self-defense because it's a twofold win when they succeed: 1) It makes people defenseless against their political agression and 2) It makes people more beholden to that great all mighty god Government, from who all blessings flow. If it doesn't decide to eat you, that is.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

17 posted on 09/25/2005 6:36:48 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: Marauder
"Remember that citizens' guns were the first thing the Nazis and the Soviets wanted from their citizens. They cannot take over this country as long as we are armed, and they know that. In order to institute Marxism for all of us gut little proletariats and comrades, first they must collect all the guns."

Another problem: Most of the younger gun-grabbers have no idea what Marxism is. They've been so thoroughly indoctrinated by the public school systems thay they truly believe what they espouse is for the good of humanity. To them, we are supposed to be living in a "Democracy" rather than the Republic guaranteed by The Constitution. Arguing with them is much like arguing with a Martian... without an interpreter!

18 posted on 09/25/2005 7:52:51 AM PDT by oldfart ("All governments and all civilizations fall... eventually. Our government is not immune.)
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To: Lando Lincoln

What I always like about going to Florida is reciprocity.
It's almost like I'm a Florida resident.


19 posted on 09/25/2005 7:55:55 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: oldfart

That is a problem, and I don't know how to deal with it, beyond letting them see what happens when the shooting starts.

But it's a fact that countries that allow citizen firearm ownership are virtually immune to attack. Well, unless you're attacked by crazed muzzies dead set on dying for Allah. That is problematic.


20 posted on 09/25/2005 5:44:30 PM PDT by Marauder (The height of hypocrisy: Members of congress upset because someone lied to them.)
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