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Freeper Positions on the Environment (Vanity)

Posted on 09/23/2005 8:36:54 PM PDT by maui_hawaii

Everyone knows republicans get hammered on the environment in every single election cycle...

I just thought it would be interesting to hear freeper opinions about it.

On one thread I made the following post:

Now that I think about it many surfers are environmentally friendly...if that says anything. They want to protect the ocean.

Me, I think thats a legit thing to do.

If you see what washes up on the shores of Hawaii sometimes you will think people shouldn't litter the oceans either...

If your neighbors threw all their garbage in your yard you would have a fit...

Not to mention that if you are a sportsman (hunter/fisherman etc) you want to protect what you do right? Its in the self interest of the sportsmen (and even some industries) to protect the enviroment and to manage game. Given I am no kook about it, but I think it needs to be done. Otherwise my grandbabies will never have the thrill of catching a nice fish or shooting bambi.

Its just in Hawaii the ocean is in your face, and in Nebraska and 90% of America, its not close enough to home to worry about. The average joe doesn't see it...

Anyway I just thought this is as good of time as any to hear everyone's two cents on something conservatives get hammered on all the time...

I guess my position is that hunters, fishermen, the tourism industry, and basic citizens have a vested interest in protecting the environment to some extent.

While I am no tree hugger and I think bambi taste good fried...I think there needs to be a common sense approach to protecting the environment.

What if you are a bass fisherman but you go to the lake and see all the fish floating belly up? It happened down the road from where I am... someone poured their excess chemicals in the river and viola... no more fish.

We talk about gun rights all the time here...but what about this? Doves, quail, deer, rabbits, etc are going to have to live somewhere...

Add your two cents. I think it will be interesting...


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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

Well, I'm an animal lover, too, which is what I meant earlier in saying I love wilderness...habitat is essential to the survival of all species, and not just humans.

Most people are "lovers" of wildlife, wilderness and many are conservatives (as I am). The point being that many current day "environmental groups" are doing/accomplishing less than conservatives in the preservation of habitats (and therefore the wildlife that lives on those).

I think there's enough blame to go around for everyone...the worst general trash I see going around is in Hawaii and California, two of the supposed most environmentally friendly states. Trash and general refuse does a lot to reduce quality and quantity of survivable habitat...for all species, including humans.


81 posted on 09/24/2005 2:42:42 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

The other day, Rush was reading an excerpt of a very recent Michael Crichton speech and, to paraphrase, Crichton said that environmentalism is the religion of urban atheists.

I wish I could get the full text of that speech.


82 posted on 09/24/2005 5:10:43 AM PDT by American in Singapore (Who needs Comedy Central when we have liberals?)
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To: flashbunny

Another fellow PeTA member! People eating Tasty Animals!


83 posted on 09/24/2005 6:32:40 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: maui_hawaii

I think their is a distinction that should be made between conservationists and environmentalists, the latter a political movement, where the first works in the spirit of Teddy Roosevelt. I tend to be very Libertarian regarding our natural world...if you mess it up, then its your responsibility to clean it up. In other words, contain your mess...if I have to touch it or smell it, I won't be pleasant....and don't let me find it on my land, or in the stream that runs through my property. I think that's fair.

I have no doubt political payoffs are made to some companies for their monetary support. However, both democrats and republican politicians put out their greasy paws. Me, I wish we could get the politics out of it....and finally have some honest debates.


84 posted on 09/24/2005 3:39:18 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: American in Singapore
Speech of January 25, 2004 (see link), may be what you're looking for, or at least it's close.
85 posted on 09/24/2005 5:34:03 PM PDT by BIRDS
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To: Mount Athos
The "environments" have falsely cried wolf on so many issues, that people might not take seriously the REAL environmental crises, like overfishing

Yep like the spotted owl. The envirowhackos decimated the timber industry.

87 posted on 09/27/2005 6:40:22 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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