Posted on 09/23/2005 9:02:53 AM PDT by slowhand520
ABLE DANGER [Kathryn Jean Lopez] In from Specter's committee office: Washington, D.C.--Senator Arlen Specter (R-PA), Chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on the Judiciary, will hold a second hearing on Operation Able Danger on October 5, 2005.
In the initial hearing held on September 21, 2005, the Department of Defense refused to produce five key witnesses relating to the identification of 9/11 hijacker Mohamed Atta. The Department of Defense has now changed their position and will make the witnesses available in a public hearing. The Committee will focus on obtaining corroborating evidence as to what occurred with the pre-9/11 charts and information which were allegedly destroyed by order of DoD personnel.
I don't know...the name sounded vaguely familiar to me the other day during the hearing...but I don't know why...
There's an old saying--well, actually, I just made it up--that goes like this: Why kick your opponent in the groin when your jabs are whippin' his ass?
The Clintons have dodged this story and that story but they're not in power, will probably never be back in power and their party not only lost the last presidential election but seats in Congress. Sometimes we on the right fall prey to the very spin the MSM throws out there without remembering we're winning.
There was nothing to be gained by using Able/Danger right now, particularly with the hurricanes, SCOTUS confirmations, etc. going on. However there is still one story out there lurking about: Who leaked Valerie Plame's name? The prosecutor should be wrapping up the grand jury very soon. No matter what he comes up with the Democrats and the MSM will overplay it. What better way to knock it right off the front pages than to fry the Clinton Administration by showing it knew about Atta a year before the 9/11 attacks? Bush and Co. kill that and they kill the 9/11 Commission's report and credibility while the Dems are screaming about having another one just like it investigate the fed's "slow" reaction to Katrina.
Rove is a genius. We need to remember that.
Well spoken by W, however, it will be forgotten. (I found this on only one website). He will not sink to their level of criticism. History has already proven himself a better Prez (Man) than Clinton. And, he will never have a condom named after him!!
There was no change of heart merely the grand drama designed to heighten interest. What could stimulate curiosity better than a "refusal" to testify?
Calm those nerves this was merely a little song and dance to make sure there would be continued interest in this slowly revealing the facts will keep up the interest level. Rummy is not trying to hide anything quite the contrary.
This must reach a climax in the late spring and summer in time for use against the Evil Witch and the RATS in the fall elections. It cannot be ended too quickly.
I don't think you need worry about Bush's backbone or sense of timing.
Forget faxs. Letters are the most important means of communication. I just finished a batch to go to the Senators on the Intelligence Committee tonight.
Well, put yourself into this situation. You were a intelligence specialist...who was simply told to glean information...and you "gleaned" an awful lot. In fact, you had tons of info not only on bad guys...but also on Americans as well. And, lets just say...that most of these Americans were simply innocent bystanders....some of these Americans were conducting illegal wire transfers, bribes, and unethical affairs. And perhaps in the middle of this were a couple of politicans.
Add to this....after the gleaning...you realize that there are serious laws about US military folks gleaning info on American citizens (from the 1980s)...and you could actually face jail time.
So up and down the line, the intel specialist to the commander in charge...there are fears of jail time, and the distrubance of the American political landscape. It was nice to get info on bad guys...but your footprint went and touched alot of bankers, politicans, and regular people. Nope, can't have that...so destroy this program as quickly as possible and make it disappear.
If I were the intelligence guy here...I would be fearful of charges of collecting data against American citizens. I think DOD felt the same way. Everyone did what they were ordered to do, and never understood the laws at hand. I'm sure that GW told Rummy to let them go, and should trouble fall upon them...GW would just give a blanket pardon. Its better to honest about this.
Sometimes the Pentagon has its collective head up its center hole. I imagine some idiot security-minded numbnuts were behind the stone-walling, believing in all their sincere obtuseness that the risk of compromise of some arcane intelligence-gathering apparatus is more important than the protection of this Republic, from enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC - i.e. the Clinton crime syndicate.
The truth be known, if the Clinton's ever return to power, none of these pinheads would survive the purges that would follow, and none of their precious little secrets would be secret much longer anyway. Bush probably told them "No way our kingdom'll be lost for some security twit in Sector 7-G."
Good job but if the fax machine is full in the morning, they do take notice. I have talk with aids of Congress.
Hmmmm. Maybe Bush is a FR lurker.
"Maybe Bush is a FR Lurker"
With the ugliness and vileness of the anti-Bush expressions on here, I hope he chooses his reading material very carefully.
I am not talking about reasoned debate over sincere differences of views on specific issues. I am talking about the dripping, oozing slime of personal insults, including his father, over and over and over, from the same people, gratuitously, on virtually every thread that they can possibly manage to ruin. The President has enough with the Terrorists and the Democrats and the Cindy Sheehans and the Media and the true RINOS in the Senate. So I hope if he lurks, he has learned to avoid or leave a thread, or to selectively read for important information.
He does not need their slop and drivel.
3 in 82nd Airborne Say Beating Iraqi Prisoners Was Routine
3 in 82nd Airborne Say Beating Iraqi Prisoners Was Routine
NY Times ^ | 9/23/05 | Eric Schmitt
Posted on 09/24/2005 5:09:01 AM EDT by Crackingham
Ah, another abuse story from the New York Times, timed perfectly to coincide with anti-war Saturday.
The Times and Cindy must be furious with Rita. They had everything ready to go - the polls, the hundreds of thousands of marchers, the routine Americans, the grieving mothers, and now, the abusing soldiers. And.Rita had to ruin everything!!!
I am a bit more cynical--the first thing I thought of was the decision to allow testimony in the Able Danger inquiry.
I still think we are seeing a carefully orchestrated game of chess.
Claim Atta Was Named Debated [Hadley denies being given 'Atta chart'] posted by johnny7
All in the wake of the Pentagon reversing its decision not to allow testimony. No such thing as coincidence, especially in DC.
"Is that so? Somehow I hadn't noticed that detail. Awkward, because even if it was holdover clintonoid sympathizers who ordered it, Bush may deserve some of the blame for not cleaning out the crooks he inherited from clinton. I look forward to learning more."
Sorry. I'll confess that at this point I have become confused about the sequence of events and am no longer sure if my statement was correct.
If Able Danger was solely a Bush administration 'problem'... it'd be on page one. It would have been 'The Cindy Sheehan' story-of-the-summer.
"Another perfect Rovian Storm. Excellent."
Ditto
"Did you know admiral Schaeffer (I think thats his name) one of the men scheduled to testify lost his security clearance due to a $67 cell phone bill?"
Tis late in the thread, and you need not respond. But Shaffer was an Army Colonel. During his time as operational liason officer between the DoD (departiment of defense) and the Able Danger team who worked for DIA (Defense Intellegience Agency) a department under the DoD, he was a major in the US Army.
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