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GOP Congressman Says Bush No Reagan Conservative
GOPUSA ^ | September.23,2005 | Marc Morano CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer

Posted on 09/23/2005 8:13:00 AM PDT by Reagan Man

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To: Reagan Man

Dana also wants to change the Constitution so Arnold could run for President.


21 posted on 09/23/2005 8:33:40 AM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: Das Outsider

The President doesn't have line item veto power. SCOTUS took it away.


22 posted on 09/23/2005 8:34:04 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Reagan Man
This is about PresBush`s liberal spending habits, Dane. How about addressing the increases in social spending under Pres Bush and the majority GOP Congress.

Uh what about you addressing Reagan signing off on social security tax increases, instead of proposing real reform as President Bush has done.

I really get tired of you so-called "true conservatives" using Ronald Reagan's great name to make sniping points.

JMO, Ronald Reagan would not approve of your tactics.

23 posted on 09/23/2005 8:34:07 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: kevkrom
That's a poor excuse for Bush and the GOP raising social spending to levels never seen before. And the so-called 11th commandment doesn't mean fiscal conservatives can't criticize elected Republicans like PresBush.

Let's start with the phrase, 11th commandment. That was a slogan Reagan didn't create.

Reagan wrote:
"The personal attacks against me during the primary finally became so heavy that the state Republican chairman, Gaylord Parkinson, postulated what he called the Eleventh Commandment: Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican. It's a rule I followed during that campaign and have ever since.

This was a rule followed by Reagan. I'm not Ronald Reagan and never professed to being Reagan incarnate either. What about Bush43`s liberal spending habits. You support them?

24 posted on 09/23/2005 8:34:35 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders;punish employers who hire illegals;halt all welfare handouts to illegals.)
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To: jbwbubba
THis is crap, under Reagan the budget exploded not only defense spending but ever dept increased greatly. and yes Reagan used the Veto, some because he had a Democratic control Congress for the most part

Ronald Reagan had a Republican Senate from 1980-86.

25 posted on 09/23/2005 8:35:37 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane

Spending bills originate in the House, which was so dominated by democrats that the GOP had zero power.


26 posted on 09/23/2005 8:37:28 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Reagan Man

He absolutely is right. One thing is for sure, Bush has reformed the REpublican party into a hybrid party that has incorporated big spending democrats!

Why is it that republicans in congress so quiet about this and not confronting Bush on this?


27 posted on 09/23/2005 8:40:40 AM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Put a mirror to the face of the republican party and all you'll see is a Donkey.)
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To: Phantom Lord
Spending bills originate in the House, which was so dominated by democrats that the GOP had zero power

Between 1980-82 Ronald Reagan had southern democrats on his side to push through his intital historic tax cuts.

The mid-term election of 82 in the House was a blood bath for Republicans, giving more leverage to tip o'neill.

Someething President Bush has avoided so far.

28 posted on 09/23/2005 8:41:21 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
You want to drege up decisions made by Reagan under different circumstances and take cheap shots to make a point at the expense of the Reagan legacy. Bush has a solid GOP Congress behind him. Reagan had a hostile House led by Tip O'Neill. Socila Security was going bankrupt in the early 1980`s. The Greenspan Commission gave their analysis on what the President and Congress should do. The plan was implimented and SS was solvent once again. Not perfect, but that was the politics in WashDC of the 1980`s.

If Ronald Reagan was around today, he would be appalled at the way the feds are spending the taxpayers money. Reagan had 78 vetoes in his day. Bush43 has zero! Reagan vetoed a huge highway spending bill that had less then 200 earmarks. Bush43 just signed off on a highway bill that had over 6,000 earmarks. That is total fiscal irresponsibilty.

29 posted on 09/23/2005 8:42:57 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders;punish employers who hire illegals;halt all welfare handouts to illegals.)
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To: Reagan Man
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30 posted on 09/23/2005 8:43:32 AM PDT by Old Seadog (Birthdays start out being fun. But too many of them will kill you..)
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To: Reagan Man
"GOP Congressman Says Bush No Reagan Conservative"

True, after the Beirut bombing and the death of the marines, Reagan, like Clinton in Mogadishu cut and run, Bush didn't, and does not.

Flame away.

31 posted on 09/23/2005 8:43:51 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Reagan Man
You want to drege up decisions made by Reagan under different circumstances and take cheap shots to make a point at the expense of the Reagan legacy.

And you cannot give the same courtesy to President Bush(I didn't start this thread).

Again JMO, you "true conservatives" are your own worst enemies. You piss off your friends and give political succor to your own so-called enemies(democrats).

32 posted on 09/23/2005 8:46:08 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
Actually I agree with you on the Beirut bombing. For that matter I think Bush has begun to wiennie out on Iraq and Iran.

The day after 9/11 I told my Daughter than Bush should go on TV, declare a state of national emergency, and wage an all out WWII type war on terrorism/Islam.

He might not have been able to get congress to go along but that is when a president has to lead. We are basically going the Viet Nam way of limited war. It never works.

33 posted on 09/23/2005 8:49:37 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Dane
>>>>The mid-term election of 82 in the House was a blood bath for Republicans, giving more leverage to tip o'neill.

And for good reason.

Reagan was faced with the worst economic conditions since the Great Depression. Something Bush43 has fortunately has never had to face. The 1981 Economic Recovery Tax Act was comprehensive legislation to get the economy back on track. This is when Reagan had his lowest poll numbers and the mid-term election loses in the House were a by-product of implimenting Reagan's economic plan.

By 1983 the US economy was in recovery mode. Inflation, interests rates and unemployment were all headed down. Consumer spending, investments and savings were on the way up. Reagan went on to another landslide victory in 1984. Bush beat Algore by 534 votes and Kerry by 90K.

Wake up Dane.

34 posted on 09/23/2005 8:52:05 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders;punish employers who hire illegals;halt all welfare handouts to illegals.)
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To: yarddog

In the long term I am afraid you are correct, make the enemy fear you at every level, they are never going to love us. And that includes the MSM and rat lefties.


35 posted on 09/23/2005 8:54:00 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Phantom Lord

I repeat, BUSH IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE!
Never was.. But I love that man anyway.


36 posted on 09/23/2005 8:57:24 AM PDT by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006 - George Allen, POTUS 2008)
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To: Dane
>>>>And you cannot give the same courtesy to President Bush(I didn't start this thread).

This is about politics in 2005 and the issue is PresBush`s liberal spending habits. I'm not taking cheap shots at the President like you are at Reagan. I support Bush on most issues. On spending, I oppose Bush and the GOP Congress. You're just another Bush cheerleader Dane.

37 posted on 09/23/2005 9:00:08 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders;punish employers who hire illegals;halt all welfare handouts to illegals.)
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To: Reagan Man
Wake up Dane

I have been awake for along time of you so-called true conservatives tatics where you use Ronald Reagan( a great man, but not a perfect one) to divide conservatives and give succor to the democrats.

BTW, since you are so obstinate, time for me to add to this to immigrantlist keyword list, to show that Ronald Reagan was the one who signed real amnesty towards illegal immigrants in 1986.

38 posted on 09/23/2005 9:01:11 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Phantom Lord

Bush is the most conservative candidate we could have gotten elected.


39 posted on 09/23/2005 9:01:43 AM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: Phantom Lord
I repeat, BUSH IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE!

Please repeat again for those that failed to understand the first and second time!!!

40 posted on 09/23/2005 9:02:47 AM PDT by politicalwit (Due to the shortage of virgins, all suicide bombings have been cancelled.)
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