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GOP Congressman Says Bush No Reagan Conservative
GOPUSA ^ | September.23,2005 | Marc Morano CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer

Posted on 09/23/2005 8:13:00 AM PDT by Reagan Man

(Capitol Hill) CNSNews.com -- He may still be the darling of cultural conservatives, but President Bush's budget decisions have prompted one of his allies in Congress to assert that conservatives have no business comparing Bush to one of the most popular conservative presidents ever - Ronald Reagan.

"Some of us came here (to Washington DC) to reduce the size of government after the model of Ronald Reagan or others who tried to cut out government programs that weren't necessary. Others came here to streamline government or to make it more efficient, or to reflect more traditional values," U.S. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.) told Cybercast News Service Wednesday.

"President Bush isn't here to cut the size of government, he's here to perhaps have government more reflect the values of the people," Rohrabacher explained, following a Capitol Hill news conference sponsored by the 110-member Republican Study Committee aimed at promoting federal spending cuts to offset the costs of Hurricane Katrina.

"But at times like this, when we have an emergency where so much money is needed, it is incumbent upon us to cut the spending that is not absolutely necessary, not just make it reflect this value or that value," Rohrabacher added. Congress has already authorized two hurricane relief bills totaling $62.3 billion and some experts estimate that Hurricane Katrina will eventually cost the federal government $200 billion.

Rohrabacher dismissed the Sept. 13 remarks of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas), who argued that the federal budget was running at peak efficiency. "Yes, after 11 years of Republican majority, we've pared it down pretty good," DeLay said.

"I am not sure what Tom had in mind, but I know that anybody who can't see that there is still fat in the federal budget probably can't tell the difference between a pig and a race horse," Rohrabacher said.

U.S. Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.) also warned about unrestrained federal spending.

"I think the mounting federal debt could someday challenge this country in a way that no military power has ever been successful in doing," Franks told Cybercast News Service.

"In 10-12 years, we are going to be facing kind of a perfect storm, when the baby boomers like [me] who have been a source of great revenue for the country, begin to retire," Franks said.

"Rather than putting into the system, [baby boomers will] begin to take out of it and when the trajectory of some of these social programs that we have are on par now to crowd out all discretionary spending, we are in a situation where just the debt itself could take a third or more of the revenues in 10-12 years," Franks explained.

"That is something we can't sustain," he continued. "Any time a country has done that for any extended period of time, they have gone into economic decline and in many cases complete disaster."

U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.) said the proposed hurricane recovery spending plan offers Congress the opportunity "to actually start whittling away at the size of government and our budget" in order to afford those unexpected expenses.

He also disagreed with the notion held by many supply side economists that "deficits don't matter.

"I have been in these arguments with folks who suggest that deficits don't matter, but I have never heard them say that lower deficits aren't better," Tancredo said.

The Colorado Republican proposed selling off 15 percent of federally-owned land to raise revenues to offset the costs of Hurricane Katrina.

Members of the conservative National Taxpayer Union were also on hand with signs reading "Compensate for Katrina, Cut Costs," "Rescue Taxpayers from a flood of red ink" and "Deficit Spending is a Disaster Pending."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; biggovernment; budget; bush43; federalspending; gop; hairboy; immigrantlist; liberalspender; rohrabacher; term2
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To: schaketo

Morphing? They've been the party of "same but less" for decades. That should have been obvious with the drugs for geezers bidding war during the election.


41 posted on 09/23/2005 9:02:53 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

More cheap shots. The issue of this thread has to do with Bush`s liberal spending habits in 2005. Not what happened in Beruit in 1983.


42 posted on 09/23/2005 9:03:14 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders;punish employers who hire illegals;halt all welfare handouts to illegals.)
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To: FreedomSurge
Bush is the most conservative candidate we could have gotten elected.

Is that why Reagan won in a landslide?

43 posted on 09/23/2005 9:03:24 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Phantom Lord
The President doesn't have line item veto power. SCOTUS took it away.

Clinton v. New York. Insanity.
44 posted on 09/23/2005 9:04:15 AM PDT by Das Outsider (Contact your Congressman and Senators today about the Able Danger investigation.)
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To: kevkrom
For someone invokign Reagan's name, however, he seems to have forgotten the 11th Commandment.

Thank you for saying this.

45 posted on 09/23/2005 9:04:46 AM PDT by BTHOtu
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To: Reagan Man

Rohrbacher and company are too cowardly to actually cut spending.

He and the other House Republicans have the power of the purse, not Bush.


46 posted on 09/23/2005 9:05:58 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: yarddog
Is that why Reagan won in a landslide?

With carter/mondale as your opponents, that is not exactly a difficult task, IMO.

BTW, no coat tails in the House.

47 posted on 09/23/2005 9:06:09 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Reagan Man

"More cheap shots. The issue of this thread has to do with Bush`s liberal spending habits in 2005. Not what happened in Beruit in 1983."

No, it's about Chickens*** Rohrbacher blaming his lack of testicular fortitude on someone else.


48 posted on 09/23/2005 9:07:52 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Dane
Read the article Dane and stop trying to cause trouble. There are 110 GOP House members looking to cut spending. You want to ignore 4-1/2 years of liberal spending by this President. Why? That is not conservative politics.

Reagan did sign the IRCA of 1986. That was a mistake. Bush wants to give backdoor amnesty to illegals and call it a guest worker program. Bush wants to make the same mistake Reagan made. That's stupid! Btw. If the main enforcement point of the IRCA was folllowed, punishing employers who hired illegals, the one time amnesty deal would have paid off and the IRCA would have been a success. Bush wants to leave the US borders wide open, in hopes that Hispanics will vote Republican in 2006 and so businesses will continue to have a flow of cheap labor.

49 posted on 09/23/2005 9:12:31 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders;punish employers who hire illegals;halt all welfare handouts to illegals.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

PrseBush is the leader of the GOP. Rohrbacher is not the leader of the GOP. Bush has sat back for 4-1/2 years and signed off on every spending bill that came before him. Not one veto. That's why Bush is spending more on welfare and entitlement today, then any POTUS before him. Bush will go down as a big government Republican and a liberal spender. Not a domestic legacy to be proud of.


50 posted on 09/23/2005 9:17:15 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders;punish employers who hire illegals;halt all welfare handouts to illegals.)
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To: Reagan Man

Hair Boy speaks!


51 posted on 09/23/2005 9:18:26 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Reagan Man

"PrseBush is the leader of the GOP. Rohrbacher is not the leader of the GOP."

Congress has the power of the purse. Bush is not Congress. Rohrbacher is a member of Congress.

Bush has sat back for 4-1/2 years and signed off on every spending bill that came before him. Not one veto."

And Rohrbacher voted for every one of those spending bills.


52 posted on 09/23/2005 9:23:03 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: nuffsenuff
I won't be voting for Bush again. That I can guarantee.

LoL! Me either darnit. I mean, he's seems like he doesn't even care about a third term!

53 posted on 09/23/2005 9:24:40 AM PDT by zeugma (Warning: Self-referential object does not reference itself.)
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To: jbwbubba
THis is crap, under Reagan the budget exploded not only defense spending but ever dept increased greatly.

During their first three years in office, Reagan CUT nondefense discretionary spending 13.5%. Bush raised it 20.8%. Sorry guys. Don't disparage Reagan's name to make Bush seem like less of a disaster. We made a mistake with him, thinking he was different from his father. Lets admit it and not do it again.

54 posted on 09/23/2005 9:26:30 AM PDT by Texas Federalist ("There is simply no fat left to cut in the federal budget." Tom DeLay - R? Texas)
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To: Dane

uh, Reagan had a dem controlled congress, he had to horse trade with them.


55 posted on 09/23/2005 9:27:13 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Reagan Man
Read the article Dane and stop trying to cause trouble.

Uh I didn't start the trouble, you did.

BTW say hi to hillary when she makes an obigatory stop when visiting your DNC basement cubicle.

56 posted on 09/23/2005 9:29:49 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Reagan Man
Cong Rohrabacher, Franks, Tancredo and the other Congressmen in the 110 member Republican Study Committee, want to get federal spending under control. NOW!
Then they best get their House in order as I believe that spending legislation comes from the House of Representatives, doesn't it?. And finally merged with the Senates desires.... So to really control and get it under control they best get their little fiedoms in order.

When they get their little areas cleaned up I think they'll have room to bitch and moan about others. So let them get on with the program and get the populace [their constituents] behind them and I bet it will happen. jmo.

57 posted on 09/23/2005 9:31:11 AM PDT by deport
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
>>>>Bush is not Congress.

Bush has no influence over the GOP Congress?

Wrong.

Bush has tremendous influence over the GOP Congress.

The problem is Bush and most of the Republicans in Congress are on the same page. They both support liberal spending legislation. Bad policy shouldn't be the refuge for conservatives.

58 posted on 09/23/2005 9:34:30 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders;punish employers who hire illegals;halt all welfare handouts to illegals.)
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To: Reagan Man; nopardons
A classic democrat divide and conquer thread to be bookmarked started by a so-called "true conservative".

Reagan Man even pulled out the victim card on this one, NP.

59 posted on 09/23/2005 9:34:44 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Reagan Man

"Bush has tremendous influence over the GOP Congress."

Apparently, he has so much power over Congress that he can force Rohrbacher to vote for the very spending bills he's whining about...


60 posted on 09/23/2005 9:38:01 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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