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Boat owners say they were fearful during Coast Guard search
The Monterey Herald ^ | September 18, 2005 | VIRGINIA HENNESSEY

Posted on 09/22/2005 2:42:37 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Two of the Moss Landing Harbor residents who were the subjects of random boat searches during Labor Day Weekend say their experiences were closer to armed invasions than the friendly "safety inspections" characterized by U.S. Coast Guard officials.

Both residents said search crews entered the harbor in inflatable boats with machine guns mounted on their bows. Then, carrying M-16 rifles, they approached residents and boarded and searched their boats in the name of safety and "homeland security."

One resident, who asked not to be identified for fear or retribution, said his experience was "very intimidating, very frightening."

"To me it reeks of Nazi Germany and the death squads in Argentina," he said. "I don't want my name on their list."

Scott Jones, a live-aboard resident who was searched, said there has been talk in the harbor about contacting the American Civil Liberties Union, but he first wants to hear further from the Coast Guard about its future intentions.

Lt. Mark Warren of the Monterey Coast Guard Station said he has heard mostly positive response to the operation, but may rethink future actions given current criticisms.

"We take lessons and learn from these types of operations. If the public is genuinely distasteful of it, we might not do it," he said. "I'm not saying we won't, but I'm not saying we will."

In addition to trying to ensure the safety of boats on the bay during the holiday weekend, Warren said, the operation was part of an effort to increase the public's awareness of the Coast Guard's role as a law enforcement agency under the Department of Homeland Security. He said the public might have been surprised to see weaponry that is now standard issue to all Homeland Security forces.

"I, as a U.S. citizen, am highly offended by that," said Jones, who is accustomed to Coast Guard boardings when he sails. "When a sheriff's deputy drives down the road or a CHP officer drives down the road and I see them, I'm aware of his job, and not because he's pulled me over and put a gun to my head.

"The Coast Guard's needs would be better served by an advertising campaign," he said, "rather than bullying people in their bedrooms at 10:30 at night."

Jones said he and his wife were sleeping when they were awakened by knocking on the side of the boat.

He went to the deck and was confronted by two armed officers asking if they could come aboard. Thinking something had happened in the harbor that the officers needed to talk to him about, Jones acquiesced.

"It seemed a little unreasonable at 10:30 at night," he said, "but it was the middle of the night and I was half asleep, so I said 'OK.' At this point, I looked out and saw six to eight officers (on the dock) and all appeared armed."

The officers boarded his boat and quickly spread out beyond the immediate deck without invitation, saying they were conducting a safety inspection.

"I can say with all certainly that what they did was not a safety inspection or in any way related to a safety inspection," he said. The officers demanded access to the bilge, saying they wanted to make sure the boat wasn't taking on water.

"This was highly suspect," Jones said. "If you're on board, you'd know if you were taking on water."

When Jones showed them the bilge, the officers repeatedly, and with increasing forcefulness, demanded to know if there were other accesses to the bilge. They also "demanded" the driver's licenses of everyone on board.

Increasingly upset by the nature of the search, Jones asked for the officers' authority and justification. One officer read to him from a federal code authorizing the search.

"It was either the Patriot Act or homeland security,"Jones said.

Warren said the officers would not have cited the Patriot Act because it affords the Coast Guard no additional authority.

Jones conceded he may have heard "homeland security" and registered "Patriot Act," but still feels the search was unwarranted and in a gray area of the law at best.

"I wouldn't question their professionalism, but I do question their motive and their authority," he said. "To me, it sounds like something that an ACLU lawyer would just tear apart."

Coast Guard officials say they are authorized by maritime law to board and search vessels on U.S. waters, including waters that lead to U.S. waters, to enforce federal laws.

Warren said the officers were attempting to ensure the safety and compliance of docked boats by checking for oily water in their bilges and that their sanitation devices were in locked position. Some searches were conducted at night in an effort to catch boats before they went onto the bay for the weekend.

The second boat owner who spoke to The Herald said his boat was searched after he challenged officers who were searching other boats, at 10:30 p.m. Sept. 2, and during the morning on following days. Told they were acting as Homeland Security officers, he asked what they were protecting the harbor from.

"Terrorists," he said he was told by the officers, who exhorted him to "remember the Cole," referring to the October 2000 attack by terrorists on the USS Cole that killed 17 sailors.

"The only terrorists down here are you guys," he told them. "You're scaring the hell out of me with that machine gun."

While Warren was noncommittal about future searches, he said it is important for the public to know the Coast Guard's presence will be increased.

"The Coast Guard's focus on homeland security has increased our presence on the water and will continue to increase our presence simply because that's what Congress is wanting us to do right now," he said. "The concern at the congressional level about the security of ports is pretty high."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: The SISU kid
couldn't agree more!


181 posted on 09/22/2005 4:39:23 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Seems the jackboots are out in all their goose-stepping glory...

Then you'd better leave now while the gettin's good. And just to be extra safe, don't ever post here again.

182 posted on 09/22/2005 4:43:49 PM PDT by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
"To me it reeks of Nazi Germany and the death squads in Argentina,"

Mr Tonkin I had no idea!

Youse guys are reglar blackhearts aint ya?

183 posted on 09/22/2005 4:43:51 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"To me it reeks of Nazi Germany and the death squads in Argentina..."

No, those guys wouldn't even bother with the search. They'd just give you a quick third eye, throw you overboard and confiscate the boat.

The Coasties might be overdoing it, but you, anonymous boater, are a melodramatic fool.

184 posted on 09/22/2005 4:44:11 PM PDT by RichInOC ("The coffee is strong at Cafe du Monde, the doughnuts are too hot to touch..." Save the Big Greasy!)
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To: andyk
The traditional American definition of a "navigable water" was that a water was considered "navigable" if a man could pull an empty canoe along it's course at some time of the year.

Please note the specific terminology of the definition, "a man", "an EMPTY canoe", and "at some time of the year" which indicates even seasonal waters and therefore their courses can be considered "navigable".
185 posted on 09/22/2005 4:45:04 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (This is a battle Alaska is still fighting with the Federal Government over the acts of Statehood)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Figures that the Whinning comes out of Sin FreakSicko.


186 posted on 09/22/2005 4:46:04 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Centurion2000
I wonder how well this flew in NOLA

Some of NOLA's "finest"

187 posted on 09/22/2005 4:46:14 PM PDT by The SISU kid (Politicians are like Slinkies. Good for nothing. But you smile when you push them down the stairs)
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To: Publius6961

Nothing but their interest is required.


188 posted on 09/22/2005 4:47:06 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (By and IN law)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

Anacortes??


189 posted on 09/22/2005 4:48:07 PM PDT by The SISU kid (Politicians are like Slinkies. Good for nothing. But you smile when you push them down the stairs)
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To: Allosaurs_r_us; Abram; AlexandriaDuke; Annie03; Baby Bear; bassmaner; Bernard; BJClinton; ...
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here
190 posted on 09/22/2005 4:51:37 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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To: Wolfie

ping


191 posted on 09/22/2005 4:52:06 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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To: The SISU kid

Boston Light (AKA Little Brewster Island). Main Light House marking the entrance to Boston Harbor from the South.


192 posted on 09/22/2005 4:53:24 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: The_Media_never_lie

My thought as well. :)


193 posted on 09/22/2005 4:53:52 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA (US Troops, past, present and future, God Bless You and Thank You! Prayers said for our Heroes!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

My guess is it is similar to the pc-standards applied when checking airline passengers. Random searches of the obviously non-profile types so when a true threat is suspected (the logical, understood profile - middle-eastern) a strong, unannounced search can be conducted without giving the ACLU any grounds to win a law suit.

It sucks but ultimately blame the radical muslims, CAIR, and all of the far-left for creating the necessity for this pc-correctness-proof countertactic.


194 posted on 09/22/2005 4:55:47 PM PDT by torchthemummy ("Dems preach to their moonbat choir while the Pubbies sing to the audience. " - TTM)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
I have a close friend who docks and lives in his 48 foot fishing boat at Moss Landing. He has related some stories about alleged abuses. According to him the CG is not well liked there. My boat is CG certified and I have NEVER had a problem. Of course I'm usually wearing my USN Vietnam Vet ball cap on the boat.

Oh BTW my friend also said that the fisherman "Never" shoot the sea lions ....

195 posted on 09/22/2005 4:58:29 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Proud member of the Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 1972-1973)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia
Wow! I even had the wrong coast!! Getting close to quitting time out here on the "Left Coast"...

8^)
196 posted on 09/22/2005 4:58:56 PM PDT by The SISU kid (Politicians are like Slinkies. Good for nothing. But you smile when you push them down the stairs)
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To: Diplomat
Read the article, the fool CONSENTED to being searched.

Correction....the fool consented to being boarded...that's when he made the initial mistake...

197 posted on 09/22/2005 5:01:52 PM PDT by The SISU kid (Politicians are like Slinkies. Good for nothing. But you smile when you push them down the stairs)
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To: The SISU kid

LOL!

Join us at iboats.com - one the largest on-line boating communities when you want to talk boats. See the forums...


198 posted on 09/22/2005 5:02:43 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

"We boaters know there is one thing that stands between us and death and that's the USCG."

PLuuuuuEEEEEASsssE, can you lighten up on kissing coastie A$$?

Because, we SAILORS know there is one thing that stands between us and death and that's our own determined seamanship.


199 posted on 09/22/2005 5:05:18 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (Our breakaway is "Anchors Aweigh", but some of my best friends are Coasties)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

bump


200 posted on 09/22/2005 5:09:30 PM PDT by Soaring Feather
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