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GOP leaders propose military benefits cuts to pay for Katrina costs (shame on them!)
Navy vet email | 9/22/05

Posted on 09/22/2005 6:14:11 AM PDT by pabianice

A group of House Republicans have proposed a plan to offset the costs of relief and rebuilding after Hurricane Katrina that includes trimming military quality-of-life programs, including health care. Possible sources of funding cuts to free up money for Katrina relief include reduced health benefits, consolidation of the three military exchange systems and the closure of the military’s stateside school system.

The House Republican Study Committee, headed by Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., is not singling out the military as it tries to raise the estimated $200 billion that the federal government will need for various Katrina-related spending.

Their proposal includes freezing congressional pay, charging federal workers for parking and cutting back on legislative earmarking — items added to agency budgets by lawmakers — as ways of raising money.

They call their effort “Operation Offset,” and hope to get spending cuts considered before Congress approves any more money devoted to Katrina relief and recovery operations.

Their offset list includes three provisions aimed at military quality-of-life programs:

• Service members would be offered cash if they are willing to accept reduced health care benefits for their families. “The less comprehensive plan would encourage individuals to be more cost-conscious when purchasing health care products by including deductibles, co-payments and a maximum annual out-of-pocket expenditure limit,” according to a written explanation provided by the study group. Reduced health care benefits could save $2.4 billion over 10 years.

• The three separate military exchange systems could be consolidated, saving up to $1.9 billion over 10 years, the study group says. The Army and Air Force share an exchange system, AAFES, while the Navy and Marine Corps have their own systems. “Consolidating … would eliminate inefficiencies from duplicative purchasing, different personnel departments, warehouse and inventory systems and management headquarters while retaining the current ability for service embers and their families to receive a wide selection of goods at a low price,” the statement says.

The Pentagon has studied the idea of exchange consolidation for years but has been unable to overcome bureaucratic obstacles and opposition from some service officials and industry groups. Several studies of the issue also have raised questions about how much money would be saved.

• The stateside system of elementary and secondary schools for military family members could be closed, saving $788 million over 10 years, the study says.

“This provision would phase out these domestic schools over time and shift these military children into the local public school systems,” the study group says.

The Pentagon also has been studying this idea, but has faced strong opposition from parents of children attending the schools because public schools are seen as offering lower-quality education.

So far, the Bush administration has not endorsed any plan to pay for hurricane relief, although President Bush has suggested that reducing spending is one obvious option.

At the administration’s request, Congress already has approved $62 billion in Katrina spending by simply adding it to the national debt, because other money is not available and no offsets were approved as part of the legislation.

White House budget officials met Tuesday with Senate Republicans to talk about Katrina relief plans but provided no recommendations on possible offsetting cuts in other programs to cover costs, according to senators who attended the closed-door meetings.


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To: satchmodog9
"The fundamental goal of the 109th Congress should be to reassert the ideals of limited government and fiscal discipline that the American people elect Republican Congresses to do," Pence said.

A-freakin-men. Too bad we got LBJ in the white house.

41 posted on 09/22/2005 6:40:33 AM PDT by Huck (There's nothing you can hold for very long.)
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To: Itzlzha

What you say makes far too much sense for anyone in Washington to take it seriously. And apparently for some Freepers, too.


42 posted on 09/22/2005 6:41:01 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: pabianice
So far, the Bush administration has not endorsed any plan to pay for hurricane relief,

Of course not. He doesn't have to pick up the tab. GWB=LBJ

43 posted on 09/22/2005 6:41:49 AM PDT by Huck (There's nothing you can hold for very long.)
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To: pabianice

How about this? ALL STINKING POLITICIANS TAKE A 100% PAY CUT for the next FIVE YEARS to help pay...


44 posted on 09/22/2005 6:42:28 AM PDT by highlymotivated (If American ever falls, a STINKING LIBERAL will be behind it.)
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To: Itzlzha
How about Congress cut their own benefits. A Congressman makes a pretty penny, and then when you add all of the benefits they have in addition to their annual salary, there's a lot that could be cut to fund Katrina relief efforts.
45 posted on 09/22/2005 6:44:26 AM PDT by Spiff (I think that looters AND people who continue to misspell "Martial Law" should be shot.)
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To: pabianice

BS!


46 posted on 09/22/2005 6:45:05 AM PDT by McGavin999 (We're a First World Country with a Third World Press (Except for Hume & Garrett ))
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To: pabianice

I think they should consider cutting "katrina" finding. Atleast until they know what it is to be spent on.


47 posted on 09/22/2005 6:45:09 AM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Rodney King
"heir offset list includes three provisions aimed at military quality-of-life programs..."

Wrong. Health care is a benefit. I did read the post. Maybe YOU didn't.

48 posted on 09/22/2005 6:45:29 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: Itzlzha

If this is true, the GOP should go F themselves ten times over.

They are disgraceful, disgusting, deplorable, detestable, and downright awful to ask our servicemen to bear any of the brunt of this while you have illegals, welfare cheats, corporate welfare, ect running rampant.


49 posted on 09/22/2005 6:50:37 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patto)
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To: Delphinium
There are lots of things they could cut, starting with all the funding for illegals. ILLEGALS, people. Think about it. The very people defending this country are being asked to give up a portion of their health care, while the illegals are not being asked to give up anything. They'll still receive good health at NO cost to them.

Honestly, some of these posts here disgust me. If this is what a Republican is, I would drop out. (But I don't think most real Republicans think this way at all--I'm just disappointed at those who do.)

50 posted on 09/22/2005 6:51:00 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: pabianice

The Army Times ran the story yesterday:

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1117445.php


51 posted on 09/22/2005 6:51:07 AM PDT by Aerohawk
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To: Brad Cloven

Get those telephone calls and emails going--let the Washington idiots know what we think about their idiotic ideas. Let them cut their "own personal pork" before touching military benefits.


52 posted on 09/22/2005 6:52:34 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: pabianice

What a "stuck on stupid" idea!

Better idea...cut congresses' pay by 30%.


53 posted on 09/22/2005 6:54:23 AM PDT by madison10
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To: MizSterious
Wrong. Health care is a benefit. I did read the post. Maybe YOU didn't.

You quoted the summary, not the post. If you read the post, you will see that while changing the health care benfit system, they will be PAYING the military families extra CASH. Take a chill pill and relax.

54 posted on 09/22/2005 6:56:37 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: MizSterious
I agree, all funding for illegals should be cut. Even here in Idaho it is so outrageous.

Not all Republicans are bad, my congressman voted against the big Katrina spending, and I think against spending for illegals too.
55 posted on 09/22/2005 6:56:46 AM PDT by Delphinium
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To: madison10

Read on. Some are applauding this. The only thing I might agree about are the schools--not really necessary in these times. But health benefits? Shame on them.


56 posted on 09/22/2005 6:57:05 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: Rodney King

Extra cash? Not bloody likely that it will be fair compensation if someone in the family has a catastrophic illness. I've seen too many military families unable to make it on military pay and Tri-Care if someone in the family gets cancer. That's BEFORE they cut the health benefits.

Shame, shame on you.


57 posted on 09/22/2005 6:59:40 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: MizSterious
Shame, shame on you.

For what? Not ranting like a lunatic based on an unsourced email?

58 posted on 09/22/2005 7:13:47 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King

Unsourced? See the link in #51--the Army Times. I wouldn't call that "unsourced."


59 posted on 09/22/2005 7:18:16 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: MizSterious
1. You were ranting like a lunatic before post 51.

2. There are still no cuts in pay or benefits. For Example: Service members would be offered cash if they are willing to accept reduced health care benefits for their families.

Key words: "offered" and "if willing"

Learn how to read without emotion.

60 posted on 09/22/2005 7:21:54 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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