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Moscow supports Tehran in nuclear stand-off
Times Online ^ | 9/22/05 | Richard Beeston

Posted on 09/21/2005 8:56:23 PM PDT by Crackingham

Russia threw Iran a diplomatic lifeline yesterday by publicly defending it against the West’s demands that it be held accountable for its nuclear programme. After two days of heated debate among the 35 members of the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna, the Kremlin said that it was prepared to block moves by the European Union to have Iran referred to the UN Security Council for possible punitive action. The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs insisted that the issue could be resolved through diplomatic means.

Sergei Lavrov, the Russian Foreign Minister, said: “While Iran is co-operating with the IAEA, while it is not enriching uranium and observing a moratorium, while IAEA inspectors are working in the country, it would be counter-productive to report this question to the UN Security Council. It will lead to an unnecessary politicising of the situation.”

Moscow’s position matters. It has not only the support of a dozen IAEA members, but a Security Council veto to block any attempt to impose economic sanctions on Iran. It appeared only to harden resolve in the EU, which failed to clinch a deal with Iran in two years of tortuous diplomacy.

On Tuesday the EU circulated a draft resolution condemning Iran’s “failures and breaches”. Peter Jenkins, the British representative to the IAEA, toughened the language against the country yesterday in a statement which said that the EU was “deeply concerned by the fact that Iran gives every sign of being intent on developing a fissile material production capability well before the international community obtains what it needs: confidence that Iran’s programme is exclusively peaceful.”

The US called on the IAEA to report Iran to the Security Council. The issue may come to a head today when the IAEA could be split if compelled to vote on the EU resolution. Some members want a vote suspended. The US is pressing for a vote which it is confident will be passed with a convincing majority. Others propose shelving the document until the issue can be debated at a future IAEA meeting. Ali Aghan Mohammadi, spokesman for Iran’s Supreme National Security Council, said that the EU ’s hardened position meant that there was “very little future” in a negotiated agreement.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; irannukes; israel; russia; syria; waronterror
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1 posted on 09/21/2005 8:56:25 PM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham

surprise,surprise,surprise......i guess when you spend 800 million who would you back?


2 posted on 09/21/2005 9:00:00 PM PDT by fatteddy
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To: Crackingham

This whole escapade is a joke.
This Diplomatic rope-a-dope can kiss my concaved a$$.
Just give Israel the TERCOM info and be done with it.


3 posted on 09/21/2005 9:01:19 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet (If not now, when?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Wonder how far Putin is planning to go this round to protect his interests?


4 posted on 09/21/2005 9:02:45 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Just give Israel the TERCOM info and be done with it.

Best hope we've got, IMO.

5 posted on 09/21/2005 9:09:42 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Just mythoughts

Russian politics wrote the book on playing both sides for maximum gain.




6 posted on 09/21/2005 9:11:08 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican
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To: Crackingham; GarySpFc; Grzegorz 246; Tailgunner Joe; REactor; Lukasz

But...but...I thought GarySpFc told us Putin was a "good christian"???????


Once a KGB murdering thug, always a KGB murdering thug....right Gary?


7 posted on 09/21/2005 9:12:42 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Mike Pence for President!!! http://acuf.org/issues/issue34/050415pol.asp)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

"Russian politics wrote the book on playing both sides for maximum gain."

True enough. Putin must still be sore over loosing Saddam, I can't imagine he is going to let go of Iran that easily. He is going to need/demand something to replace his investment.

Putin is the world's energy Czar now, he is to hold the next G-8 Summit and he has said it is about energy security.


8 posted on 09/21/2005 9:16:32 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Crackingham
I'd be surprised if it were any other way. Its kinda like an Uncle Joe thing going on...We're told he's our friend...but we all know.
9 posted on 09/21/2005 9:16:35 PM PDT by kanecorp
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To: Crackingham
I'd be surprised if it were any other way. Its kinda like an Uncle Joe thing going on...We're told he's our friend...but we all know.
10 posted on 09/21/2005 9:17:01 PM PDT by kanecorp
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To: Just mythoughts

"Putin"

"Freakin' Idiot!" --Napoleon Dynamite

His psuedo puppy-dog eyes fool no one. A Stalin disciple.


11 posted on 09/21/2005 9:21:34 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet (If not now, when?)
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To: Stellar Dendrite; DevSix; jb6
Little girl with a little curl, in the War on Terror we are only seeing 5% at best of what is transpiring. Russia is not an enemy of the U.S. Your time would be better spent in the beauty parlor instead of talking about that which you are totally ignorant.
12 posted on 09/21/2005 9:23:32 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Crackingham

The nucelar stand off is why Russia built the reactors for the Jihadi in the first place. The cold war never went away, it went underground.

But we got rid of our bases, fleets and downsized our army and airforce anyway.

That will cost us our freedom. But hey, we got welfare and medicaid! Eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we shall die makes for a lousy political plan. But at least lot of athiest politicians got real fat tapping the gravy train.


13 posted on 09/21/2005 9:26:23 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Crackingham

This is so very serious.

How is Israel supposed to survive after Iran gets nukes? How many U.S. cities will be blown up when Iran gives a few to the many terrorist organizations they harbor and support with massive funding? How many other Islamic organizations and states will be awash in nuclear bombs, setting them off willy nilly against us? Can Civilization as we know it survive? I feel many grossly underestimate how serious this is.

This would be a terrible time and way for Russia to stab us in the back. I hope Russia thinks twice, I hope there is some different behind the scenes negotation than the face presented here.


14 posted on 09/21/2005 9:30:51 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: GarySpFc

There goes gary with his Pro-Putin ping list! Both DevSix and Jb6 are known putin apologists. DevSix is a little less vocal about it than JB6 obviously. Jb6 is very, very infamoous on free republic for his pro-putin stance, in fact he is mentioned on a Ukranian site!


http://www.ukraine.com/forums/showthread.php3?threadid=8966
Kret
Junior Member

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 8


Maybe some of you should take a look on the Free Republic forum. One of the faithful servants of Kremlin painting your nation as a bunch of neo-Nazis and commies by posting everyday few anti-Ukrainian articles. This is big conservative forum and there is no your compatriots there, so partly his propaganda may be effective.

His username is "jb6"
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Also--For those here on this thread who dont know-- GarySpFc spends his time defending the KGB Putin at all costs. Why?
His family has a very, very close association with this murderer:

I told you long ago Putin is a Christian. Indeed, he had my wife and a couple of others write a Bible curriculum for the schools, which he had drawn into a bill and signed into law.
8 posted on 09/06/2005 1:06:13 PM CDT by GarySpFc






" Russia is not an enemy of the U.S. "


Suure, they arent Gary. So how do you spin their actions in this story? Did Putin send you the talking points yet?

Also:


WashingtonTimes

Inside the Ring

A Pentagon report on weapons found in Iraq after the war revealed a staggering amount of armaments, almost all foreign-made. The report, first disclosed in a new book by one of this column's writers, Bill Gertz, reached this stark conclusion: "Foreign munitions were used against coalition forces during the war and continue to be a potential source of explosives for improvised explosive devices still being used to kill U.S. soldiers."

According to the report cited in "Treachery: How America's Friends and Foes are Secretly Arming Our Enemies," 24 nations supplied armaments to Saddam Hussein. The total amount was between 650,000 tons and 1 million tons. By contrast, the entire U.S. military arsenal is between 1.6 million and 1.8 million tons.

The big three arms suppliers were Russia (and the Soviet Union), China and France: Russia supplied 122 different types of arms and a total of nearly 13 million items; China had provided 19 different types of arms and almost 380,000 items; France had supplied 12 different armaments and more than 115,000 items.

The report was produced by the office of deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, John Shaw.

It found that Russia had violated U.N. sanctions on Iraq by selling Saddam Hussein Kornet-E antitank guided weapons. The report said that in March 2003, Kornet missiles, first developed in 1994, were fired at two U.S. Army M-1A1 Abrams tanks near Najaf, disabling them.

The report also stated that Syria purchased 500 to 1,000 Kornets from Ukraine "on behalf of Iraq"; the transfers took place in early 2003, the report said. The Ukrainians had bought the missiles from Russian manufacturers. The report concluded, "Possession of the Kornet-E violates U.N. Security Council Resolution 687," which barred arms sales to Iraq.



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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1219679/posts

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http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=6238132

Powell Concerned by Putin Political Changes
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=3&u=/nm/20040914/ts_nm/russia_usa_dc_3

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3655412.stm

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/09/14/wruss14.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/09/14/ixnewstop.html

Garry Kasparov – Baltic Development Forum Key Note Address
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Poisoned by Putin
http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/article/0,2763,1300414,00.html

Russian newspaper delivers some bitter truths to Putin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1213460/posts

08 September 2004 16:50
Russia confirms further delays to Iran`s nuke plant
GatewayToRussia
http://www.gateway2russia.com/art/Unrubricated/Russia%20confirms%20further%20delays%20to%20Irans%20nuke%20plant_251653.html

Russian FM To Israel: Chechnya No, Palestine and Iranian Nukes Yes
Ariel Natan Pasko
TruthNews
8SEP04
http://www.truthnews.net/world/2004090037.htm

Russia defends arms
sales to Iran
Moscow says U.S. objects only out of self-interest
[and Syria]
http://www.freedomdomain.com/Templemount/5_30a.html

Sep. 8, 2004 20:08 | Updated Sep. 8, 2004 22:27
Iran recruits 'human shield' for nuclear reactor
By JPOST.COM STAFF
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1094613507272

Moscow 'vehemently' opposes attacks on Iraq
Sees Saddam's terror-sponsor state as 'long-term partner'
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25619

Russian Delegation in Baghdad With Putin Message for Saddam Hussein
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3918d6aa328c.htm


15 posted on 09/21/2005 9:35:29 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Mike Pence for President!!! http://acuf.org/issues/issue34/050415pol.asp)
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To: Crackingham

Russia's act is wearing real thin.


16 posted on 09/21/2005 9:44:08 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Americans need to remember Osama's "strong horse" -"weak horse" analogy. Let's stop acting weak.)
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To: fatteddy

I don't blame the Russians; I just wonder why we would care? Just do the right thing and F--- the worthless UN.


17 posted on 09/21/2005 9:53:12 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: American in Israel
"The nucelar stand off is why Russia built the reactors for the Jihadi in the first place. The cold war never went away, it went underground."

With Moscow supporting some of America's worst enemies in Iran & Syria, it's like 1973 all over again, waiting to happen.

18 posted on 09/21/2005 9:56:38 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Crackingham

The Ezekiel 38... Gog, Magog and Persia connection... things are warming up.
Gog has been identified with the Russians, the Scythians, Goths and Cretans by scholars. Persia, is of course, the area of Iran. Read the rest yourself.


20 posted on 09/21/2005 10:29:31 PM PDT by BigFinn
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