Posted on 09/21/2005 5:00:42 PM PDT by jmc1969
DROPSONDE DATA FROM AN AIR FORCE RESERVE UNIT RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT AT 623 PM CDT...2323Z...INDICATED THE CENTRAL PRESSURE HAS FALLEN TO BELOW 899 MB...OR 26.55 INCHES. THE DROPSONDE INSTRUMENT MEASURED 32 KT/35 MPH WINDS AT THE SURFACE...WHICH MEANS IT LIKELY DID NOT RECORD THE LOWEST PRESSURE IN THE EYE OF RITA. THE CENTRAL PRESSURE IS PROBABLY AT LEAST AS LOW AS 898 MB...AND PERHAPS EVEN LOWER. FOR OFFICIAL PURPOSES... A PRESSURE OF 898 MB IS ASSUMED...
WHICH NOW MAKES RITA THE THIRD MOST INTENSE HURRICANE IN TERMS OF PRESSURE IN THE ATLANTIC BASIN. SOME ADDITIONAL DEEPENING AND INTENSIFICATION IS POSSIBLE FOR THE NEXT 12 HOURS OR SO.
Suppose you hit it ten miles off shore.Before there can be a reorganization it will be over land. Isn't it worth trying?
I'd be up for trying it. I'm just guessing you'd need about 1000 daisy cutters going off simultaneously not 6 or 7. The amount of energy pivoting around that wall is collossal.
We can't abandon the war on terror.
You are right, heat is what fuels these things.
Air in cyclones rises. If the air were coming back to the surface of the water in the eye, where does it go when it reaches sea level? It can't go out because that's where the eyewall is. What maintains the hurricane is the heat energy absorbed from the surrounding sea water that is at a temp of 80 F or greater. This extends out hundreds of miles on all sides of the hurricane. The only way a hurricane is diffused is by it nearing land, which cuts off its source of fuel from that side, or going over water that is less that 80 degrees. It's a self perpetuating system only as long as the conditions are right, This is why The Day After Tomorrow is so totally unbelievable. Storms like that cannot survive over land and the storm does not suck cold air down from aloft.
Actually the eye walls do disintigrate and reform in the hurricanes life. There have been several hurricanes recently that almost completely broke apart and reformed. I believe Ivan was one of them.
Did we have hurricanes during WW2? Did we stop fighting because of hurricanes?
If the eyewall can be disrupted, the entire storm will be effected. Picture this: We deploy a bomb that will release a column of propellants as it falls. At the bottom of that column, detonate the main explosive. Blast will be virtually simultaneous along the length of the column. The calm air in the eye will be ideal for a uniform distribution. Will it happen like that? Who knows. If it does, what will be the effect. Who knows. Should we try it---absolutely. And soon.
This question has been asked, and answered a lot of places on the internet. Bottom line, the amount of energy released by even the largest nuclear weapons is trivial in comparison to that of a hurricane. Probably would have little effect, and might even cause it to strengthen.
Strangely I woke up in the middle of the night thinking about disrupting a hurricane with a bomb only to see it being discussed here already.
Thanks for the chart! Bump for future reference.
injin is an idiot.
If there is a way to stop hurricanes and we use it, watch out for climate changes. Hurricanes form for a reason, and to remove the low pressure would equal famine (high pressure no freaking rain).
Not everything is meant to be solved with nukes. Some people are just morons on this forum.
It's starting already, here is an example of it already. But if you watch this, they make some good points
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player05.html?092105/sr_wilson_092105&Special_Report&Debate%20Heats%20Up&acc&Politics&-1&new
It's starting already, here is an example of it already. But if you watch this, they make some good points
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player05.html?092105/sr_wilson_092105&Special_Report&Debate%20Heats%20Up&acc&Politics&-1&new
Okay, the "fuel" of a hurricane is hot air rising. All that does is add more rising hot air to the system. If it affects the hurricane at all, it simply makes it stronger, if even momentarily.
Everyone with "bomb-based" solutions needs to realize: the eyes of these monsters are tens of miles across. That's a lot of square mileage, not to mention the volume of the eye. There is no way to disrupt that system by man-made means. No way.
Even if we could, what about the next one? These are the best way the tropical and equatorial oceans have of shedding heat. If we screw with it, we'll just have to deal with a bigger storm later on.
This is not a man-made solution, except in the sense that we have to think more clearly when we put large cities and vital industries in the paths of these storms.
That works out to 12 gigatons a day. Energy output is about 600,000 gigawatts, according to your numbers.
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