Sun's Output Increasing in Possible Trend Fueling Global Warming

Space.com ^ | March 20th 2003 | By Robert Roy Britt

[John Jamieson]

"feasibility rating of 1 out of 10"

Exactly my point, why waste the space on it?

[uscabjd]

Thanks, but I heard him mention the european research and the fact that the sun is producing more energy now than in the last 1000 years. This was from the Max Plant Institute. Was this my imagination? Anyway to find out what Rush was refering to?

[uscabjd]

Any cite to any of this?

[woofie]

pass an anti sun law

[FreedomCalls]

So you're telling me that the sun has been increasing its ferocity for the last few hundred years or so? Ever since we stopped the Aztecs from sacrificing large numbers of humans to their sun god? Uh-oh.

[Old Student]

"Oh dear! What if the earth is sucked in and incinerated before history reaches its Hegelian teleological omega point of 'social justice???'"


Well, it would result in the forced conversion of a whole bunch of liberal democrats, wouldn't it? Heck, for that, it would almost be worth becomeing incandescent gas, myself.

[USFRIENDINVICTORIA]

Good point. I guess the thing is that they had to discuss it, or they would have been criticized for overlooking an option. The concept of a space mirror has been out there for years -- at least this concept was more advanced, being a mesh to diffuse the light, rather than an actual mirror.

[proud_yank]

Or Fatty Moore, though we don't need a complete eclipse and the start of an ice-age!

[mountainlyons]

Sorry but I forgot where I saw it. I think the thing about the sun becoming hotter was on the NASA channel. The volcano creating as much green house gas as the industrial revolution is an old one.

[inquest]

In the past few years since we've been watching, the polar caps have been in retreat on Mars. New gullies indicating liquid flow have appeared on hillsides.

Something's not right there. Liquid water can not exist on the surface of Mars currently. The atmospheric pressure is too low.

[DownInFlames]

Damn. It can't be that simple. Furthermore, there is no fix.

[inquest]

This is sort of along the lines of what you're talking about, but probably not exactly. Still, it works very strongly against the media-defined "consensus" about global warming.

Sunspot Activity at 8,000-Year High

[muir_redwoods]

Could have been liquid CO2 or even plain old water if it occurred in sufficient quantity to gouge out gullies before it evaporated off.

[MNJohnnie]

Sunspot Activity at 8,000-Year High.

Excellent info thanks. Got to love the July 2004 National Geographic. After telling us all about Sunspots and how a sunspot drought in Shakespears time cause the Thames at London and the Lagoon at Venice to regularly freeze, the unnamed NASA offical they were supposedly quoting is quick to assure everyone that there was more Global Warming currently then could be accounted for by Sunspots peaks. This wack jobs are just not going to let go of man made Global Warming theories as long as "Global Warming" is a direct pipeline to the Govt Treasury.

[inquest]

Neither carbon dioxide nor water can exist at all in liquid form under that low pressure. They just go straight from solid to gas. It's the same way on earth with carbon dioxide. That's why its frozen form is called "dry ice".

[MNJohnnie]

So you're telling me that the sun has been increasing its ferocity for the last few hundred years or so

I vote we start sacrificing Liberal Pols and Hollywierd figures to appease the Sun God's wrath.

[inquest]

the unnamed NASA offical they were supposedly quoting is quick to assure everyone that there was more Global Warming currently then could be accounted for by Sunspots peaks.

That's pretty funny, since the article at Space.com said that the exact relationship between sunspot activity and climate is not fully known. Nice to see how they change their story as it suits their predetermined outcome.

I'll have to look over that issue of NG next time I head down the library. Should be interesting to watch the mental gymnastics they go through on the subject.

[MNJohnnie]

I'll have to look over that issue of NG next time I head down the library. Should be interesting to watch the mental gymnastics they go through on the subject

It was last years June or July's issue. Borrowed it from the guy sitting next to me on a plane trip. It's the cover story. That trip to VA was the week right after July 4th 2004.

[muir_redwoods]

The images are out there showing clear gullies that were not there three years ago. There is a clear river delta formation at the terminal end of the cut and there is no way wind could have caused it. Not being a martian meteorologist I cannot say with certainty what transient conditions might occur. It is possible for local atmospheric pressure to increase somewhat in the event of a large release of CO2 or H2O. Whether that pressure would be of sufficient significance or duration to allow for the gullies to form as a result of flow is, obviously, hard to say. It is harder to explain away the gullies.

[G Larry]

Well now, how in the hell did George Bush screw that up?????
/sarcasm

If he'd paid China and India their polution credits*, this would never have happened!!!!

*pollution credits - required under the terms of the never ratified Kyoto treaty.