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Rangers says bark beetle damage extensive
9 news ^ | 9/20/2005 | Paul Johnson

Posted on 09/21/2005 12:01:36 PM PDT by george76

The U.S. Forest Service says that Monday's late season wildfire near Breckenridge underscores a major challenge facing Colorado's forests - the spread of the bark beetle.

Bark beetles burrow into a tree between the bark and woody part, ultimately killing it.

While they've been in Colorado forests for a long time, rangers say...

The Forest Service says the extent of the infestation is beyond what they predicted, and what they've seen before in Colorado.

"I think there are places where we just can't economically treat enough forest to do any good,"

(Excerpt) Read more at 9news.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Philosophy; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: barkbeetle; barkbeetledamage; beetle; forestservice
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To: ClaireSolt
I wish we had know that information here in our mountains in California. We lost most of the pine trees. We had them cut down and removed. Its sad to see the whole mountain coverd with dead or dying trees.
21 posted on 09/21/2005 2:23:28 PM PDT by sam I am
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To: sam I am

Sorry, posted to wrong person.


22 posted on 09/21/2005 2:26:15 PM PDT by sam I am
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To: whizeup

Scott would be great, again...

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23 posted on 09/21/2005 2:42:03 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

I believe it was the Bark Bettle that killed all the Chestnut trees in the U.S. around 1904. We still have very few American Chestnut trees as a result. Old American Chestnut wood is very desireable among we woodwokers.


24 posted on 09/21/2005 2:44:39 PM PDT by devane617
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To: GSlob
Is there some natural predator for these beetles? Some woodpecker

Yes, but we have only the one, and he works round the clock. He gets the worms, but also removes the bark, which kills the tree anyway.

25 posted on 09/21/2005 2:46:24 PM PDT by RightWhale (We in heep dip trubble)
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To: narby; colorcountry
The ponderosa and pinion pines on my little acre of dirt are dying because of these damn things.

You got those beetles and here in S.E. Michigan we got the Emerald Ash borer. My subdivision had all its Ash trees cut down last fall and on my drive to work in Troy, Michigan, the devastation caused by the borer is becoming more and more evident every day. I first noticed what was going on about 2 months ago when all the trees along my drive on Coolidge Hwy. lost their leaves then I woke up and realized they were ash trees. The city is now in the process of cutting all of them down. Literally every neighborhood in that area has giant ash trees that are now devoid of foliage and for the trees on private property the removal is the responsibility of the homeowner.

Next spring the destruction is really going to be noticible when all the existing dying ash trees will not last the winter and no leaves will appear. What a mess!

I forgot to mention that the Upper Peninsula now has documented cases of the borer. Most likely due to stupid people who chose to make firewood out of their infected ash trees and transport it up to their cottages. All the warnings issued by the state prohibited the transportation of any and all ash trees ..........

26 posted on 09/21/2005 2:55:36 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm tired of idiots and don't have enough ammo to shoot them all.......Jeez, I hate that thought!)
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To: george76

Thanks for the site you emailed for me to go to...i am just learning to use this thing by myself up here by the Canadian border in the beautiful woods...my kids are all gone and grown up so I am learning everyday...thanks again! I have always been political for the last 20 yrs. or so and would not go without a computer again!


27 posted on 09/21/2005 3:00:28 PM PDT by whizeup (God Bless the Idiot's, tuff job,someone has to do it!)
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To: sam I am

It is a mystery to me that SoCal homeowners will watch brush grow on hillsides behind their homes which catches fire and endangers them while they wait for government to tend to it. Or complain for years about a broken fence, or beetles in trees. They act as helpless as the people of New Orleans.


28 posted on 09/21/2005 6:22:56 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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29 posted on 09/23/2005 5:53:20 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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To: freepatriot32

BTTT


30 posted on 09/24/2005 3:09:02 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: colorcountry

Sad isn't it that the keepers of the forests are the very ones who have managed the forests destruction. The communists did say they would destroy US from within.


31 posted on 09/24/2005 3:17:02 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: devane617

A company in Minnesota sells chestnut trees. I have a couple growing in my nursery plot. But be forewarned, they grow very slooooooowwwwwww. I figure I'll be 125 years old before I roast that first chestnut in the fireplace.

If you want the company's contact info, freepmail me.


32 posted on 09/24/2005 5:11:03 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Member of Arbor Day Foundation, travelling the country and destroying open space)
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To: ClaireSolt

"The solution is private property. The sickest forests are the ones mismanaged by the government. If we are going to have urban homesteading, we need some rural homesteading, too. I fantasize about retirees caring for trees."

You beat me to it! I posted nearly your exact same seniments on another enviro-wacko thread yesterday. If people are truly concerned about conservation, they need to understand that the government isn't going to do it for them, so they need to save up their pennies and buy their own land, and fence & post the perimeters well.

We own a whopping 2 acres. We've added 100+ trees (pine, black walnut, red oak, hazelnut, tamarack pine) in the past decade. This is an old dairy farm, but it was an amazingly barren wasteland when we bought it. Not so much as a lilac bush or a stand of rhubarb...but buildings all dating from 1906 and before. Go figure!

I, too, love trees, but totally understand the forest service mis-managing areas due to the pc-cr@pola foisted upon us all from the enviro-dorks. :(


33 posted on 09/24/2005 6:38:25 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Congratulations. I have a dream of planting black walnut trees on a place in the Ozarks. I hope I get it done.


34 posted on 09/24/2005 10:54:11 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: ClaireSolt

"I hope I get it done."

Well, they're beautiful trees, but don't plant them where you want a garden as they put out something toxic in their roots and will cripple or kill other trees or shrubs or plants near them, and don't plant them in a row of 15 along your driveway as I did. Messy, messy trees once mature...and those walnuts are a PITA to deal with. But, one day, they'll make someone a pretty penny for the wood. Hopefully, ME! ;)


35 posted on 09/24/2005 11:39:25 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Pylot

Try driving from Sun Valley, Idaho to Challis. The entire forest has an orange hue due to dieing trees. Frankly, the USFS deserves a lot of blame for this. They have bowed to the enviros for so long, it is difficult not to consider the USFS an environmental-based organization.

I have lots of friends in the USFS and most can't wait to retire and get out. All the old timber experts are considered dinosaurs and it is now difficult to be hired by the FS without a degree in ecology, biology, or recreation management.

Next summer, expect a big fire in the Stanley Basin.


36 posted on 09/25/2005 3:20:41 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: Pylot
Earlier this past week I spent 3 days in Vail, CO enjoying the fall foliage. Interspersed amongst the aspen are evergreen trees and the damage to them by the bark beetle is readily apparent. Vail is presently undergoing a nearly billion dollar upgrade, streets are torn up to install heating systems under the pavers, buildings (in many cases barely 20 years old) are being torn down and new more elaborate ones built. All that money being spent with seemingly little attention given to the devastation to the evergreen trees that make up so much of the natural beauty of the area.
37 posted on 09/25/2005 3:43:20 AM PDT by BluH2o
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