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Pope bans homosexuals from ordination as priests
WorldNetDaily ^ | September 19, 2005

Posted on 09/19/2005 4:11:33 PM PDT by scripter

Pope Benedict XVI has given his approval to a new Vatican policy document indicating that men with homosexual tendencies should not be ordained as Catholic priests, reports Catholic World News.

The policy statement is a direct result of the pope's concern about the pedophilia scandal in the church – especially in the U.S.

The new document, prepared by the Congregation for Catholic Education in response to a request made by the late Pope John Paul II in 1994, will be published soon. It will take the form of an "Instruction," signed by the prefect and secretary of the congregation: Cardinal Zenon Grocholewski and Archbishop Michael Miller, according to the report.

The report was first referenced on Joseph Farah's nationally syndicated radio program last week by Raymond Arroyo, author of the new book "Mother Angelica: The Remarkable Story of a Nun, Her Nerve and a Network of Miracles." Arroyo has covered the papacy more than any other journalist

The text, approved by Benedict at the end of August, says that homosexual men should not be admitted to seminaries even if they are celibate, because their condition suggests a serious personality disorder that detracts from their ability to serve as ministers, says the CWN report.

Priests who have already been ordained, if they suffer from homosexual impulses, are strongly urged to renew their dedication to chastity and a manner of life appropriate to the priesthood.

The "Instruction" does not represent a change in church teaching or policy, according to the Vatican.

Catholic leaders have consistently taught that homosexual men should not be ordained to the priesthood. Pope John XXIII approved a formal policy to that effect, which still remains in effect. However, during the 1970s and 1980s, that policy was widely ignored, particularly in North America.

The Congregation for Catholic Education prepared the "Instruction" after soliciting advice from all of the world's bishops, from psychologists and from moral theologians. A draft was then circulated among the Vatican dicasteries concerned with the issue, notably including the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

The pending release of the "Instruction," in the face of certain criticism from liberal forces in America and Western Europe, demonstrates the determination of the Vatican to improve the quality of priestly ministry and to protect the church from some of the scandals that have recently shaken the Catholic community – and no doubt deterred many men from entering priestly training.

Informed sources in Rome indicate that the "Instruction" probably will be made public after the Synod of Bishops, which meets in Rome Oct. 2 through 23.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cnim; gay; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; popebenedict; vatican
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To: bigsigh
you were correct most [pedophiles] are not [homosexuals].

I suspect you are talking about the general population. In that case, it would be astonishing if only 2-3% of the population produced over 51% of the pedophiles. So your statistic is not really meaningful, even if correct.

But in the Catholic Church scandals, well over 90% of the victims were teenage BOYS. There are no female priests. The Church has a homosexual priest problem.

41 posted on 09/19/2005 4:38:37 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: scripter

preaching and practice seem to be two different things.


42 posted on 09/19/2005 4:39:20 PM PDT by zipp_city
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To: jigsaw

I just like watching things grow.


43 posted on 09/19/2005 4:39:34 PM PDT by keithtoo (Howard Dean is a Rove plant, Rove is a NeoCon plant, NeoCons are Trilateralist plants....)
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To: Lorianne
Priests take a vow of chastity/abstenance.

I thought that it was a vow of celibacy. Nuns take a vow of chastity.

44 posted on 09/19/2005 4:40:36 PM PDT by Lessismore
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To: scripter
Pope Benedict XVI has given his approval to a new Vatican policy document indicating that men with homosexual tendencies should not be ordained as Catholic priests.

With that policy in place (if it's enforced), there will be a HUGE shortage of new priests!

45 posted on 09/19/2005 4:42:46 PM PDT by vox humana
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To: FormerACLUmember
I would take issue with the verb "allow" in what you wrote in 29. My observation is that the faggots realized they could hide behind the clerical garb and decided to become faux priests hiding the fact that they were queerer than Gore Vidal.
46 posted on 09/19/2005 4:43:59 PM PDT by Lunkhead_01
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To: thefactor

I wonder about current priests as well. I personally know a man who is homosexual and who became a Jesuit priest two years ago. That is a pretty liberal order from what I understand, and the last I heard from people who have kept in touch with him he was working with AIDS victims in France.


47 posted on 09/19/2005 4:45:15 PM PDT by libsl (I'm just sayin'....)
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To: Lunkhead_01
I would take issue with the verb "allow" in what you wrote in 29. My observation is that the faggots realized they could hide behind the clerical garb and decided to become faux priests hiding the fact that they were queerer than Gore Vidal.

I basically agree with you. I think the authorities were negligent however in overlooking (?) these homosexuals entering the priesthood during the liberal 1970's.

This will now end.

48 posted on 09/19/2005 4:47:35 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: pabianice
A group of Gay Ninjas from Provincetown have already been dispatched to Rome (they wear pink masks)...


Gay Ninja?

49 posted on 09/19/2005 4:48:32 PM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic (You cannot stop me, I'll just make..........a "move"....)
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To: libsl

this will degenerate into a "don't ask, don't tell" mentality. kinda like right now.


50 posted on 09/19/2005 4:48:47 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: scripter
Ok, I'll admit it, I don't get it. As long as the vow of celibacy is adhered to, who cares what a priests sexual orientation is? I mean let's cut to the chase here: Priests are expected to give up sexuality en toto, so what's the significance here?
51 posted on 09/19/2005 4:49:43 PM PDT by Melas (The dumber the troll, the longer the thread)
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To: scripter

The only way to really make this work is to clear out the liberal leadership and faculty at the seminaries.


52 posted on 09/19/2005 4:49:49 PM PDT by Pontiac (Ignorance of the law is no excuse, ignorance of your rights can be fatal.)
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To: Lorianne
Priests take a vow of chastity/abstenance. So it doesn't really matter which sex he is sexually attracted to, it's supposed to be hands-off.

True, but the Church (and until recently, society at large) recognizes homosexuality as a sexual perversion, not just a mere choice of which orifice you choose to violate. Hence, a homosexual is a pervert who has no place in the priesthood, regardless of whether he buggers adolescent boys.

Besides, many if not most homosexuals have a thing for adolescent and teenage boys. The molestation cases do not usually involve preschoolers or first graders.
54 posted on 09/19/2005 4:52:07 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Lessismore

Is there an operational difference between a vow of chastity and a vow of celibacy?


55 posted on 09/19/2005 4:52:17 PM PDT by Melas (The dumber the troll, the longer the thread)
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To: libsl
Maybe no pedophilia involving boys (which has been what made all the news). You'll still have to lock up your girls, AND keep an eye on your sisters, wives, and mothers.

Wow, Know Nothing'ism is alive and well. Remember, they also pledge their loyalty to a foreign power.
56 posted on 09/19/2005 4:53:41 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Conservative til I die

But we're not talking about homosexuals. We're talking about men who're expected to be asexual. Does it really matter what sexual thoughts a priest gives up so long as he gives them up?


57 posted on 09/19/2005 4:54:43 PM PDT by Melas (The dumber the troll, the longer the thread)
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To: Melas
Everyone is called to chastity, even married people. For one in marriage, that means fidelity to one's spouse.

Celibacy encompasses chastity, plus the vow rules out marriage for the one taking it.

58 posted on 09/19/2005 4:55:53 PM PDT by sinkspur (It is time for those of us who have much to share with those who have nothing.)
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To: scripter



Long live Pope Benedict XVI.


59 posted on 09/19/2005 4:56:42 PM PDT by onyx (North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: Melas
But we're not talking about homosexuals.

Uh,friend, did you actually read the article? We are indeed talking about fags.

We're talking about men who're expected to be asexual. As I said before, homosexuals have an extreme sexual disorder. It is accompanied by a rampant, insatiable sexual appetite and often manifests itself in even more sinister ways, such as raping and sexually assaulting teens and adolescents. Homosexuals are absolute sexual deviants.

Does it really matter what sexual thoughts a priest gives up so long as he gives them up?

Put it this way: If one is a pedophile, does it matter how they lust after 4 year olds as long as they don't act on it?
60 posted on 09/19/2005 4:58:49 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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