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To: Tim Long
Intelligent design isn't science.

That is a weak, overused, and frankly untrue statement. Defend your stance instead of misrepresenting a theory. I don't hold to ID because it is not compelling enough, but evolutionists say that about every alternative to their theory.

Go back and read what the article states:

''Creationism, intelligent design, and other claims of supernatural intervention in the origin of life or of species are not science because they are not testable by the methods of science," the NAS [National Academy of Sciences] stated.

You need to show how CS/ID etc. are testable by science to be doing science. Otherwise, its your religion and belief against someone else's religion and belief, because you are not doing science.
6 posted on 09/19/2005 4:09:07 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Is this a good tagline?)
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To: Coyoteman

The thing is, the idea that anti-evolutionary theory is claimed to be unfalsifiable and therefore not science, which is simply not true. Evolution opponents often believe the Bible is infallible, but they do not hold the scientific evidence they present to be unfalsifiable.


11 posted on 09/19/2005 4:26:26 PM PDT by Tim Long (I'M CREEPING DEATH!!!)
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To: Coyoteman
Agreed, but neither is evolution a science by the same standard, show me how the theory of evolution has been tested and prevailled. Here is some evidence that it is not, mind you it has only been going on for about 100 years:

In 1904, Walter S. Sutton, an American cytologist, decided there might be some connection between Gregor Mendel's 1860s research and the newly discovered chromosomes with their genes. A major breakthrough came in 1906, when Thomas Hunt Morgan, a Columbia University zoologist, conceived the idea of using fruit flies (Drosophila melanogaster) for genetic research. This was due to the fact that they breed so very rapidly, require little food, have scores of easily observed characteristics and only a few chromosomes per cell.

According to evolution, man has lived on the earth for a little over a million years. Yet experiments on fruit flies have already exceeded the equivalent of a million years of people living on earth. Here is a clear statement of the problem: "The fruit fly has long been the favorite object of mutational experiments because of its fast gestation period [twelve days]. X rays have been used to increase the mutation rate in the fruit fly by 15,000 percent. All in all, scientists have been able to "catalyze the fruit fly evolutionary process, such that what has been seen to occur in Drosophila is the equivalent of the many millions of years of normal mutations and evolution."

"Even with this tremendous speedup of mutations, scientists have not been able to come up with anything other than another fruit fly. Most important, what all these experiments demonstrate is that the fruit fly can vary within certain upper and lower limits but will never go beyond them. For example, Ernst Mayr reported on two experiments performed on the fruit fly back in 1948....

34 posted on 09/19/2005 5:15:47 PM PDT by TheHound (You would be paranoid too - if everyone was out to get you.)
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