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Tropical Storm Rita Discussion (NOAA Discussion -- please pray)
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Posted on 09/19/2005 12:34:29 AM PDT by topher

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WTNT43 KNHC 190307
TCDAT3
TROPICAL STORM RITA DISCUSSION NUMBER 5
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 PM EDT SUN SEP 18 2005

THE LAST RECON REPORT AT 17/2324Z INDICATED MAXIMUM RELIABLE 850 MB FLIGHT-LEVEL WINDS OF ABOUT 55 KT...OR ROUGHLY 44 KT SURFACE WINDS. THERE WAS ONE FLIGHT-LEVEL REPORT OF 67 KT...BUT THIS OCCURRED DURING CLIMBOUT TO A HIGHER ALTITUDE TO AVOID TURBULENCE...AND IS THEREFORE NOT DEEMED REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ACTUAL WIND FIELD. SINCE THE LAST RECON FLIGHT...CLOUD TOPS HAVE WARMED NEAR THE CIRCULATION CENTER...SO THE INTENSITY IS BEING HELD AT 45 KT.

THE INITIAL MOTION ESTIMATE IS 300/09. RITA HAS ACTUALLY BEEN MOVING OR PROPAGATING NORTHWESTWARD THE PAST 6 TO 9 HOURS. THIS MOTION MAY BE DUE TO THE CENTER REFORMING CLOSER TO THE DEEP CONVECTION...OR ACTUAL MOVEMENT TOWARD A WEAKER BREAK IN THE MID-LEVEL RIDGE LOCATED ALONG 75W LONGITUDE. ALSO...AN UPPER-LEVEL LOW PREVIOUSLY LOCATED NEAR JAMAICA HAS MOVED NORTHWESTWARD TO NEAR CAYMAN BRAC AND HAS NOT WEAKENED LIKE THE GLOBAL MODELS HAVE BEEN FORECASTING. THE COMBINATION OF THE SOUTHEASTERLY FLOW ON THE EAST SIDE OF UPPER LOW...COMBINED WITH THE SOUTHEASTERLY FLOW ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF A LARGE MID-LEVEL RIDGE LOCATED EAST OF BERMUDA...SHOULD STEER RITA IN A GENERAL WEST-NORTHWESTWARD MOTION FOR THE NEXT 12 TO PERHAPS 24 HOURS. AFTER THAT...ALL OF THE GLOBAL AND REGIONAL MODELS AGREE THAT THE LARGE MID-LEVEL RIDGE THAT EXTENDS ALONG THE GULF COAST FROM A HIGH CENTER OVER LOUISIANA WILL GRADUALLY BUILD EASTWARD AND TURN RITA WESTWARD. HOWEVER...THE SAME MODELS ALSO AGREE THAT THE HEIGHTS WILL NOT INCREASE ACROSS SOUTHERN FLORIDA AND...IN FACT... HEIGHTS FROM 700 MB TO 400 MB HAVE NOT INCREASED ACROSS SOUTH FLORIDA DURING THE PAST 24 HOURS...BUT THE WIND SPEEDS HAVE DECREASED. THIS ALL SUGGESTS THAT THE EASTERN EXTENT OF THE RIDGE EAST OF FLORIDA MAY NOT BE AS STRONG AS INDICATED IN THE MODEL FIELDS. AS SUCH...THERE MAY A NORTHWARD SHIFT IN THE MODEL GUIDANCE TRACKS IN THE 00Z MODEL RUNS. HOWEVER...WITH SUCH A LARGE AND STRONG RIDGE IN PLACE ACROSS THE GULF COAST...RITA SHOULD GRADUALLY EVENTUALLY MOVE WESTWARD ACROSS THE CENTRAL GULF AND INTO THE WESTERN GULF OF MEXICO BY THE END OF THE PERIOD. THE OFFICIAL TRACK WAS SHIFTED TO THE RIGHT OF THE PREVIOUS FORECAST TO ACCOUNT FOR THE MORE NORTHWARD INITIAL POSITION. THIS NORTHWARD SHIFT HAS REQUIRED THE PREVIOUS WATCHES FOR THE FLORIDA KEYS AND SOUTH FLORIDA TO BE UPGRADED TO HURRICANE AND TROPICAL STORM WARNINGS.

THE VERTICAL SHEAR IS NOW FORECAST BY ALL OF THE MODELS TO GRADUALLY DECREASE FROM THE CURRENT 15 KT DOWN TO LESS THAN 5 KT BY 36-72 HOURS. THIS SHOULD ALLOW FOR SOME SIGNIFICANT STRENGTHENING TO COCUR...ESPECIALLY SINCE RITA WILL BE OVER 30C SSTS AND IMPRESSIVE POLEWARD OUTFLOW PATTERN WILL BE MAINTAINED. THE OFFICIAL INTENSITY FORECAST FOLLOWS THE TREND OF THE SHIPS...GFDL...AND FSU SUPER ENSEMBLE MODELS...WHICH ALL BRING THE CYCLONE TO MAJOR HURRICANE STRENGTH...AT LEAST 100 KT...BY 72 HOURS.

FORECASTER STEWART

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 19/0300Z 22.9N 73.3W 45 KT
12HR VT 19/1200Z 23.4N 75.1W 50 KT
24HR VT 20/0000Z 24.1N 77.5W 60 KT
36HR VT 20/1200Z 24.3N 80.1W 75 KT
48HR VT 21/0000Z 24.2N 83.0W 90 KT
72HR VT 22/0000Z 24.1N 88.5W 100 KT
96HR VT 23/0000Z 24.5N 92.0W 100 KT
120HR VT 24/0000Z 26.5N 95.5W 100 KT


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Louisiana; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2005hurricane; hurricanerita; rita; weather
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It is good they are using Nautical Mile speeds for the wind potential -- you don't want to know what this storm might become in 96 hours.

Prayer threads welcome at this point...

No Northernly direction possible on this storm in the next few days, but very questionable

Any track of this storm being similar to Katrina is bad news (understated intentionally).

This could become a Cat 2 in a few days...

1 posted on 09/19/2005 12:34:29 AM PDT by topher
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To: topher

USING ALL CAPS IS REALLY, REALLY ANNOYING.


2 posted on 09/19/2005 12:37:36 AM PDT by Panerai
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To: Panerai
"USING ALL CAPS IS REALLY, REALLY ANNOYING."

It's cut and paste so blame the Gov't !

3 posted on 09/19/2005 12:43:01 AM PDT by america-rules
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To: america-rules

IBF!!!


4 posted on 09/19/2005 12:43:41 AM PDT by zarf (It's swollen, yes.)
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To: america-rules; Panerai; zarf

Kind of like telling NOAA about the flood.


5 posted on 09/19/2005 12:46:02 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: topher

Hm, isn't this the one that was supposed to be heading straight for Mexico?


6 posted on 09/19/2005 12:47:04 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: america-rules

Most word programs and text editors have an option to change text to all caps and back to small caps.


7 posted on 09/19/2005 12:47:24 AM PDT by Panerai
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To: topher
Tropical Storm Rita Discussion Number 5

Statement as of 11:00 PM EDT on September 18, 2005

 
the last recon report at 17/2324z indicated maximum reliable 850 mb
flight-level winds of about 55 kt...or roughly 44 kt surface winds.
There was one flight-level report of 67 kt...but this occurred
during climbout to a higher altitude to avoid turbulence...and is
therefore not deemed representative of the actual wind field. Since
the last recon flight...cloud tops have warmed near the circulation
center...so the intensity is being held at 45 kt.

 
The initial motion estimate is 300/09. Rita has actually been moving
or propagating northwestward the past 6 to 9 hours. This motion may
be due to the center reforming closer to the deep convection...or
actual movement toward a weaker break in the mid-level ridge
located along 75w longitude. Also...an upper-level low previously
located near Jamaica has moved northwestward to near Cayman Brac
and has not weakened like the global models have been forecasting.
The combination of the southeasterly flow on the east side of upper
low...combined with the southeasterly flow on the southwest side of
a large mid-level ridge located east of Bermuda...should steer Rita
in a general west-northwestward motion for the next 12 to perhaps
24 hours. After that...all of the global and regional models agree
that the large mid-level ridge that extends along the Gulf Coast
from a high center over Louisiana will gradually build eastward and
turn Rita westward. However...the same models also agree that The
Heights will not increase across southern Florida and...in fact...
heights from 700 mb to 400 mb have not increased across South
Florida during the past 24 hours...but the wind speeds have
decreased. This all suggests that the eastern extent of the ridge
east of Florida may not be as strong as indicated in the model
fields. As such...there may a northward shift in the model guidance
tracks in the 00z model runs. However...with such a large and
strong ridge in place across the Gulf Coast...Rita should gradually
eventually move westward across the central Gulf and into the
western Gulf of Mexico by the end of the period. The official track
was shifted to the right of the previous forecast to account for
the more northward initial position. This northward shift has
required the previous watches for the Florida Keys and South
Florida to be upgraded to hurricane and tropical storm warnings.

 
The vertical shear is now forecast by all of the models to gradually
decrease from the current 15 kt down to less than 5 kt by 36-72
hours. This should allow for some significant strengthening to
cocur...especially since Rita will be over 30c SSTs and impressive
poleward outflow pattern will be maintained. The official intensity
forecast follows the trend of the SHIPS...GFDL...and FSU super
ensemble models...which all bring the cyclone to major hurricane
strength...at least 100 kt...by 72 hours. 

 
Forecaster Stewart

 
forecast positions and Max winds

 
initial      19/0300z 22.9n  73.3w    45 kt
 12hr VT     19/1200z 23.4n  75.1w    50 kt
 24hr VT     20/0000z 24.1n  77.5w    60 kt
 36hr VT     20/1200z 24.3n  80.1w    75 kt
 48hr VT     21/0000z 24.2n  83.0w    90 kt
 72hr VT     22/0000z 24.1n  88.5w   100 kt
 96hr VT     23/0000z 24.5n  92.0w   100 kt
120hr VT     24/0000z 26.5n  95.5w   100 kt

8 posted on 09/19/2005 12:48:33 AM PDT by glock rocks (WYGIWYG !)
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To: topher

9 posted on 09/19/2005 12:51:34 AM PDT by glock rocks (WYGIWYG !)
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To: glock rocks

****.

Great. We take in the New Orleanians, and Someone sends Houston a bloody hurricane.


10 posted on 09/19/2005 12:55:17 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: glock rocks

I bet this will send both crude oil and refined products prices up on Monday. Imagine if the refineries in Houston had to shut down before the New Orleans refineries shut down by Katrina are back up to full capacity.


11 posted on 09/19/2005 12:56:35 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: Spktyr

Time to restock supplies at the Astrodome.


12 posted on 09/19/2005 12:57:29 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: Spktyr
Great. We take in the New Orleanians, and Someone sends Houston a bloody hurricane.

I just want to know who the wise guy was that flushed the voodoo doll down the toilet.
13 posted on 09/19/2005 12:58:42 AM PDT by kingu (Draft Fmr Senator Fred Thompson for '08.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Not to mention all the platforms that will have to be shut down yet again.. Have they all been found yet? Keep meaning to follow up on that, but keep getting distracted.
14 posted on 09/19/2005 12:59:39 AM PDT by kingu (Draft Fmr Senator Fred Thompson for '08.)
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To: Panerai

For us vision impaired people caps are a godsend!!!!!!!!!!!


15 posted on 09/19/2005 1:02:10 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: kingu

If that orange track is correct, the bloody thing is going to hit Houston and sweep up to Austin, Waco, and Dallas, where I live.

Hey, wait a sec. Nagin moved to Dallas, didn't he? Hmmm

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If it makes it up here, it will be much weakened, but hurricanes have a nasty habit of spinning off large tornadoes over land. Having run to downtown Fort Worth to help out a buddy in the hours after that big f****** tornado wrecked the place a few years ago, I'm thinking it might not be a bad idea to stock up on fuel for the generator and more shotgun shells as well as food if that thing gets any stronger.


16 posted on 09/19/2005 1:06:25 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: mariabush

It has been scientifically proven that caps are harder to read for everyone. If it's hard to read text on the screen, there are many adjustments that can be made to your computer to enlarge the fonts to aid you. FRmail me if you require assistance.


17 posted on 09/19/2005 1:07:52 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

They don't completly shut down, they just recirculate till the danger is over like 24 hours. The problem in La. was the pipelines being shut down also and the storm surge. Production would be limited for a very short period of time.


18 posted on 09/19/2005 1:10:35 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: Spktyr
There is another model that was released at 2;48 EDT that shows it may hit south of Houston and Corpus Christi but north of Brownsville.

That would be a better case scenario in that the area is sparsely populated since most of that land is owned by the King ranch.

Hurrican Bret hit there in 1999 with minimal damage.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/1999bret.html


19 posted on 09/19/2005 1:11:40 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Spktyr
I'm thinking it might not be a bad idea to stock up on fuel for the generator and more shotgun shells as well as food if that thing gets any stronger.

Yep. It's not a bad idea to have a good supply all the time, and rotate through it. That makes the economic hit spread out over time.

20 posted on 09/19/2005 1:11:53 AM PDT by glock rocks (WYGIWYG !)
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