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Making The Move From CD to iPod
New Jersey.com ^ | September 18, 2005 | Allan Hoffman

Posted on 09/18/2005 7:44:51 PM PDT by SamAdams76

I am giving up CDs. Within the next several months, I expect most of my family's CDs will be converted for playing on our iPods and personal computers. The actual CDs will either be sold or given away. As more people connect their digital music players to their home stereos and car stereos, they realize they have no use for the racks of CDs taking up space in their homes. If you no longer play CDs, why keep them? That is the conclusion my wife and I reached, and that is why I am completing the arduous process of moving the music to more compact computer storage from the CDs.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cds; foolsandtheirtoys; ipod; lossofhearing; music; waste; wasteofmoney; wasteoftime
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To: SamAdams76

Sammy, Sam, Sam! I was making a general comment on the subject matter of the article, not a personal judgment about you. I hope you enjoyed your walk.


101 posted on 09/18/2005 9:03:18 PM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel (Theyre digging through all of your files, stealing back your best ideas.)
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To: SamAdams76
Let me ask you something as I have not gotten into downloading music yet. You download/purchase music files to your computers hard-drive or rip songs from CD that you own or borrow, and store those files on your comouter's hard-drive, and then you choose which ones you want on your iPod and load them from the computer's hard-drive onto the iPod. Right? Is that right, or do people download / buy songs from websites right onto their iPods?

Anyways, you come home some night and someone broke into your house and your computer is gone. If you didn't back up those music files somewhere, will the music download sites let you download those songs again if you tell them about the break in? If you loaded songs directly onto your iPod and it gets stolen, or you lose it, you are not getting them back, right, or does one continually back up the files stored on their iPod too?
I'm on my 5th computer since getting online in 96, and a few of the computers "died" as the hard drive went away. I guess if I had wanted to pay some computer file recovery company a lot of money, they could have recovered stored music files (if I had them), but the cost probably would have been prohibitive.

I'm not sure I get it yet. I know people with hundreds of songs purchased online at about $1.00 each, and if their hard-drive seizes or their computer is stolen, are those files not gone? With a CD (if the theif did not steal those) you would still have the music.

Do you back up all your music files?
102 posted on 09/18/2005 9:03:44 PM PDT by BansheeBill
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To: discostu
I can't be awake without listening to music. Literally if I don't have music playing for real I have it playing in my head (I've always been really good at memorizing songs), I'm always listening to music sometimes even music other people can hear.

Music in head - good.

Voices in head - bad. ;-)

103 posted on 09/18/2005 9:05:27 PM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel (Theyre digging through all of your files, stealing back your best ideas.)
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To: GOP_Proud

You are not alone.


104 posted on 09/18/2005 9:05:34 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Dan Nunn
It just seems like Apple and Google are the latest fads among the 'metrosexual' crowd. Now, I have to wash my hands for typing that word.

You're wrong ... but something tells me you're not too open minded.

I work in the stockmarket and almost everyone is a Republican and drives nice cars. Gays are relatively few in my business.

But I can tell you that over the last few years PC owners that I know have gone for the iPod BIGTIME. It is simply awesome..

Why you would equate a consumer device with homosexuality is curious but then I don't want to plumb the depths of your psyche. Do yourself a favor, next time you pass an Apple store, stop in and look at the iPod ... the Nano is my favorite. You might just realize you like it.

105 posted on 09/18/2005 9:06:44 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Death to Islamo-Fascists ...)
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To: SamAdams76

One of my acquaintances was able to get an iPod nano last weeks and is it ever sweet. With no moving parts it's nigh well impossible to make it skip. The biggest drawback to it right now is the slow speed of the Flash RAM which makes it take up to an hour to completely load all 1,000 songs. But that can be overcome by just letting it do the transfer over lunch or at night.

Like the other iPods, these will get sold as fast as Apple can manufacture them.


106 posted on 09/18/2005 9:09:56 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel

It all depends on what the voices are telling you to do and if you do it.

Of course sometimes the music in my head could be bad too. Like when I didn't realize I was whistling with a Tull flute solo during a Latin test, or when I was working at McHell and I had heavy metal playing in my head so loud I couldn't hear the shift manager making grill calls. But for the most part it's fun.


107 posted on 09/18/2005 9:10:06 PM PDT by discostu (When someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back)
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To: GOP_Proud
GOP Proud writes:
Sometimes I think must be the only person left who doesn't have an iPod and doesn't feel the need for one.

I've been a Mac user exclusively since 1987, and as much as a "Mac advocate" as can be found on this (or any) forum. I don't do Windowz.

Having said that, I don't really have any use for an iPod, either. As a music device, it doesn't meet my needs, because it can't record in "real time".

I use minidisc instead. I like to record internet "streaming audio" broadcasts, which I then listen to when I wish (favorite spot is riding on the Harley). As I type this, I'm recording bluegrass from channel #404 on the cable tv tuner. I run a digital coax cable from the "coax out" on the tuner box to the "coax in" on my MD recorder (bookshelf unit), pop in an 80 minute MD blank, and let it go. An hour and a half later I have an MD that sounds very, very good.

I prefer MD for several reasons:
- the music collection is "spread out" across many discs, rather than the "all the eggs in one basket" approach of the iPod. Lose it, or have it stolen, and you lose _a lot_ with an iPod.
- MD media is very rugged, being magneto-optically based. Audio recorded on MD will likely outlast any other current media, including most CDR's, possibly with the exception of commerically-pressed CDs. Those who keep their entire collection of music on the hard-drive-based iPod better have at least one or two full backups somewhere. EVERY hard drive will fail at some point.
- I _prefer_ the fact that each MD runs only 74 or 80 minutes. Try to sift through all the iPod menus while riding the motorcycle - if you dare!

- John

108 posted on 09/18/2005 9:14:22 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: JohnLongIsland
give me my thirty three and one thirds or give me death...

I hear ya, brother! Analog LP's still sound warmer than any digital encoding thats ever been devised so far. While digital may be mucho convenient, they still don't match the soothing dynamics of analog media (LP and magnetic tape)

109 posted on 09/18/2005 9:14:43 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: corkoman
iPod Shuffle. Article is in PC Magazine for June. It is free and will even allow you to use your IPod as a storage device while you have your tunes on it. It can be found for free at http://shuffle-db.sourceforge.net/

The article on PCMagazine is here: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1825075,00.asp

Enjoy
110 posted on 09/18/2005 9:14:45 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: BansheeBill
Your post has lots of good questions. The answers lie in which music service and platform you choose. Your ownership of the songs varies widely from service to serive.

My choice us iTunes overall. But this subject of ownship and transferability was covered in depth in the Wall Street Journal's Mossberg column a few weeks ago. Check:

http://ptech.wsj.com/

It may be under Mossberg File.

111 posted on 09/18/2005 9:15:50 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Death to Islamo-Fascists ...)
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To: SamAdams76; everyone

Please FRmail me with what CD's you all have that you want to sell. I will buy them if they are decent.


112 posted on 09/18/2005 9:18:01 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: GOP_Proud

"Sometimes I think must be the only person left who doesn't have an iPod and doesn't feel the need for one."

Well, now there's two...


113 posted on 09/18/2005 9:20:35 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: Dan Nunn
"It just seems like Apple and Google are the latest fads among the 'metrosexual' crowd."

LOL! Perfectly worded. I think you will see IPods for $5-$15 at garage sales within the year as the next new thing comes out.
114 posted on 09/18/2005 9:21:53 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: SamAdams76

You have found the soundtrack to your life. You have found your pied piper and he plays though an ipod. You all are just programming yourselves. Like Pavlov's dogs. Stimulus and response


115 posted on 09/18/2005 9:22:24 PM PDT by dennisw (G_D : Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: SlowBoat407
I have burned CDs consisting of songs downloaded from iTunes and converted to AIFF - the standard CD music format.

If I may be permitted to nit-pick, AIFF is not quite the same as the CD-audio format. Both AIFF and EFM (the CD-audio modulation scheme) are uncompressed PCM formats (so are WAV files, for that matter), so it's stupidly easy to convert back and forth, but they're not actually identical. Now you know something useless that you didn't before ;)

116 posted on 09/18/2005 9:22:45 PM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: megatherium
Another deficiency with the iPod -- their sound isn't really that good. Not "near CD quality". More like a good chromium dioxide cassette, without the hiss.

Try 128-bit WMA on a Creative player - it will blow your ears off. If you've got the ears for it, go for a higher bitrate, but 128WMA = 192MP3 or better.

Creative is known for the audio quality of their products, especially compared to the iCult.

117 posted on 09/18/2005 9:23:07 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: GOP_Proud

No, you aren't. ;9)


118 posted on 09/18/2005 9:24:11 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: general_re
"That's why, if you run over your discs with a steamroller, you have to buy new CDs instead of getting free replacements - you don't own the music, just a piece of plastic and a license to listen. Sell them, and the buyer now has a license to listen to the music, and you don't any more."

Sait for the rolling check points along highways run by RIAA. Fines for all.
119 posted on 09/18/2005 9:25:32 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: WKUHilltopper
"Sometimes I think must be the only person left who doesn't have an iPod and doesn't feel the need for one."

Well, now there's two...

Well, now there's three...

120 posted on 09/18/2005 9:28:54 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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