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The Washington Post columnist's report suggests that Farrakhan's poisonous theory appears to have gained currency.

Decades of welfare state mentality created by the 'Rats convince blacks of things that are counterproductive to them.

1 posted on 09/18/2005 10:16:24 AM PDT by wagglebee
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I once had an otherwise very bright African American student tell me that he firmly believed that the US Govt started AIDS to kill black folk. He was very serious, and I could not convince him otherwise. Of course, he was only 15 or 16, but it points out that the problem is that from a young age, some of these kids are taught that it is POSSIBLE and maybe even LIKELY that the white majority govt is out to get them and will stoop to all sorts of awful things to either hold them back or outright get rid of them. It's sad, but I'm not sure how you fight that.
susie


26 posted on 09/18/2005 10:35:18 AM PDT by brytlea (All you need as ID to vote in FL is your Costco card...)
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Evidently being on high ground had nothing to do with not being flooded!


27 posted on 09/18/2005 10:37:11 AM PDT by OldFriend (MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH ~ A NATIONAL TREASURE)
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President Bush....

Q: What is Bush's position on Roe vs. Wade?

A: He really doesn't care how people get out of New Orleans.

28 posted on 09/18/2005 10:37:38 AM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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"Reasonable" African Americans in New Orleans believe that the Bush administration engineered the levee breaks during Hurricane Katrina in a bid to save the city's white sections by flooding black neighborhoods, Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson said Sunday.



There! Someone had to add this to your illiterate Claim.

29 posted on 09/18/2005 10:37:48 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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Unless there are retaining walls (levees) BETWEEN the sections of the town [that would indeed be a gated community writ large], flooding only predetermined parts of town selectively would be a nontrivial problem even for somebody with Karl Rove's magic powers, for water seeks its own level.
30 posted on 09/18/2005 10:38:09 AM PDT by GSlob
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Yet again, some MSM goon tries to insist that he speaks for me. He's full of used food.


35 posted on 09/18/2005 10:40:19 AM PDT by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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As a seriously demented intellect, I would like those who believe this nonsense to know that if it were true there would be no survivors.

And no one left to spread the tale.

Anywhere.

We are not that evil, though certain myth makers may want us to believe otherwise.
37 posted on 09/18/2005 10:42:05 AM PDT by mmercier (drugs, delusions, and the imperial culture of the slums)
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""Reasonable" African Americans in New Orleans believe that the Bush administration engineered the levee breaks during Hurricane Katrina in a bid to save the city's white sections by flooding black neighborhoods, Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson said Sunday."


No way!

Now if they had said that the Bush administration engineered the levee breaks during Hurricane Katrina in a bid to drowned all the blacks, then that would have been believable.



41 posted on 09/18/2005 10:46:09 AM PDT by G.Mason
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"These are not wild-eyed people," Robinson insisted. "These are reasonable, sober people who really believe that."

People have believed what appeals to them for thousands of years. It does not mean its truthful. What do intelligent people logically deduce?

The levee failure is true. Why did the levee fail when stressed with high water and wind? Here are some possibilities:
1. It could have been sabotaged by Bush, foreigh terrorists, republicans, or democrats...
2. It could have failed because it was poorly built or that there was fraud in the conctruction.
3. It could have failed because it was never designed to handle this load.
4. It could have failed because in addition to not being designed strongly enough, it suffered from a period of negletct. Have I covered enough?

Now, I have heard that the technical community will look into these matters. But a conspiracy advocate will not trust the results of an "expert" study. I have heard that the levee broke in an area that was recently "upgraded". This means that long neglect was likely not the cause.

Now terrorists only wish they had thought of this, a disaster on the scale that Al Queda likes but so easy to cause that it could happen by itself. (Only it took a hurricane), the terrorists would have done it at Mardi Gras. So lets drop the idea of terrorism.

But this logic also means that Bush and republicans probably did not do it too. Because the hurricane is unpredictable and if they wanted to do in the black people, they would not have had the patience to wait for just the right hurricane. It becomes more and more reasonable to look at the hurricane for the solution.

If the hurricane had something to do with the problem, it probably had a lot to do with the problem. It also trashed I 10 and the causeway across the Lake. Wow, it must have been a powerful storm to do all that damage in Mississippi. Maybe the storm did it?

Note that we still have the recent upgrade and the possibility of contractor or worker fraud to look at. I don't put Bush in much harm for this. If fraud and corruption helpped the levee to fail, I would look to the democratic machine and the local "fat cats" to blame. Is this logical or what?

45 posted on 09/18/2005 10:48:37 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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These are not wild-eyed people," Robinson insisted.

Ummmm, yes they are...

46 posted on 09/18/2005 10:48:49 AM PDT by GOPJ
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"'Reasonable' Blacks Believe Levee Plot"

By definition reasonable people do not believe unreasonable things.


48 posted on 09/18/2005 10:50:35 AM PDT by BadAndy (Yes liberals, I DO question your patriotism.)
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If you were going to actually 'blow' the levees, the levees couldn't be easily repaired with sandbags. You would have just plain blown them the h3ll away.

The French quarter is near the English Turn.......Let's remind ourselves of the 1814 defeat of the British, and previous defeat of the French, as well as of Ante-bellum homes. All that came about prior to the levees, i.e., on land above the water. Strategically, these positions were/are defensible. If they're of historic value now, or, happen to be White, I really couldn't say, as I have never been there. But this bit of exploding levees is the stuff of pure, fiction--and racism in and of itself. The positions have to do with geography and topology.


49 posted on 09/18/2005 10:50:48 AM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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Reasonable blacks vote Republican.


50 posted on 09/18/2005 10:51:25 AM PDT by NJRighty (Liberals interpreting the Constitution? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!)
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"These are not wild-eyed people," Robinson insisted. "These are reasonable, sober people who really believe that."

NO, these are stupid asses who have been held down for 300 years and cannot make any step without being told what to do by someone.

52 posted on 09/18/2005 10:51:29 AM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (Houston Astrodome - Compassionate Conservatism at work!)
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I would counter with these:

  ABC Stunned: Evacuees Don't Blame Bush (RUSH)
 
 In Katrina I Didn't See Racism, I Saw Brotherhood
 
 Houston We have a Problem : Fewer Than Half of Evacuees Want to Back Go Home -- It's like when the soviet union couldn't keep the truth from its citizens anymore.
 
 To ABC's Surprise, Katrina Victims Praise Bush and Blame Nagin
 
Rush Thread 9/16 -- Kyoto is dead, and Blair has embraced nuclear power.... Article Rush is reading about buses-- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1484451/posts ...
 discussion on the blogosphere vs MSM... The whole empowerment theme will ring true... What Rush and President Bush are saying is ... it is time, time to help those who are in need. That is what makes us the greatest place in the world to live... let us have faith in the good people of Louisiana to recognize that the Dems failed them. They lost lives, property, homes, and hope. Half of them don't even want to go back, and the half that does, surely doesn't want to go back to Mayor Nagin's reassurances that he will save them next time, or better their lives.  He won't and the world knows it.
-- Here's a picture of the woman given it to the jerk at ABC.
 http://newsbusters.org/node/1201
 

55 posted on 09/18/2005 10:53:52 AM PDT by backhoe
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"I heard from a very reliable source who saw a 25 foot deep crater under the levee breach. It may have been blown up to destroy the black part of town and keep the white part dry," Farrakhan told a North Carolina audience.

Um, how do you see a 25' deep hole, under 17-20 feet of turbid water? You can barely see the top half or so of the white sand-bags used to plug the hole in the levee.


56 posted on 09/18/2005 10:54:07 AM PDT by micawber20
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"Reasonable" blacks believe that AIDS is a cracker plot to wipe them out."Reasonable" blacks also believe that OJ and Michael Jackson are innocent.
57 posted on 09/18/2005 10:54:43 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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Of course they do. Its another reason LOLA should be put under Federal control for the next 25 years or till it can think for itself.


58 posted on 09/18/2005 10:55:15 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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Although not detailed in this post, Robinson went on to say that HE didn't believe the story because the corps of engineers didn't have the know-how to do it...implying that if they DID know how he would be able to believe it. Anyone else catch this gem?
59 posted on 09/18/2005 10:56:41 AM PDT by twhitak
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"reasonable"?????? Was an "U" and a "N" prefix omitted from that word??


60 posted on 09/18/2005 10:58:12 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Once sanity and morality is exposed to that DC air, it dissolves faster than a snowball in hell.)
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