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Relief Head Questions New Orleans Timeline
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/17/D8CM8FC00.html ^ | Sep 17,2005

Posted on 09/17/2005 3:11:24 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud

The mayor of New Orleans has set up an "extremely problematic" timeline for allowing residents to return to the evacuated city, which is still threatened by a weakened levee system, a lack of drinkable water and heavily polluted floodwaters, the head of the federal relief effort said Saturday.

Coast Guard Vice Adm. Thad Allen said federal officials have worked with Mayor Ray Nagin and support his vision for repopulating the city, but he called Nagin's idea to return up to 180,000 people to New Orleans in the next week both "extremely ambitious" and "extremely problematic."

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To: Cboldt

Well, if that is the case, I wish the MSM and Fox would start every story with that----because when they report on bad things that could happen, when these people return....

you KNOW...that somehow FEMA and by extension, Bush will be blamed, instead of Nagin. Just like the evacuation...Nagin STILL hasn't gotten the blame for that like he should.


21 posted on 09/17/2005 4:24:56 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth
... if that is the case, I wish the MSM and Fox would start every story with that----because when they report on bad things that could happen, when these people return.

I hear ya. The media does an awful job of informing. I even go so far as to hold them in contempt. I think the institution of media is despicable.

If one wants to know the true lay of the land, one has to research the facts and principles behind the reports. FR is a big help for that.

22 posted on 09/17/2005 4:28:17 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Look up Nagin in Wikipedia. You will find out he was a Republican til he ran for mayor.


23 posted on 09/17/2005 5:02:34 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: ArmyBratproud
"They took everything _ all the electronics, the food, the bikes," said John Stonaker, a Wal-Mart security officer. "People left their old clothes on the floor when they took new ones. The only thing left are the country-and-western CDs. You can still get a Shania Twain album."

LOL

24 posted on 09/17/2005 5:06:03 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Recon Dad

Who could have voted for this buffoon?
Answer: The people who waited for help to get out of a city?


OK, I know some of them were disabled, and others didn't have cars.

But my burning question is: Just how far did they need to walk in order for people to notice they needed help? Was it half a block, half a mile, a mile? If I HAVE to get out, I'm going to start walking and hope someone notices and helps me. I don't get the impression that these people did that.

Obviously these people, on a regular day-to-day basis got food from somewhere, they walked around SOME to get some of the items, right? How far were they USED to WALKING in order to live on a daily basis? Were they suddenly rendered immobile?


25 posted on 09/17/2005 5:13:03 PM PDT by thinkingman129 (questioning clears the way to understanding.)
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To: Txsleuth

What about the people themselves, willing to return when all common sense screams NO!

Is it Nagin alone who has no sense?


26 posted on 09/17/2005 5:13:53 PM PDT by thinkingman129 (questioning clears the way to understanding.)
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To: Txsleuth

You're saying that Bush should tell Nagin that the FEMA guys are in charge....

Could it be that Nagin still doesn't get it?

Nagin wants to be in charge as long as Nagin can blame it on someone else...


27 posted on 09/17/2005 5:16:08 PM PDT by thinkingman129 (questioning clears the way to understanding.)
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To: Mike Darancette

Makes you wonder what clothes were left behind?

What styles? Sizes?


28 posted on 09/17/2005 5:17:34 PM PDT by thinkingman129 (questioning clears the way to understanding.)
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To: ArmyBratproud
This mayor wants his sheep back.
Reality set in when 60% of his former charges now in Houston decided not to return to the plantation again.
This Mayor, he's a thinking man... but, but, who is going to vote for me next time around?
29 posted on 09/17/2005 7:16:47 PM PDT by hermgem
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To: Txsleuth

Sleuth..Keep in mind..Cal Thomas....Bill Bennet...Crystal.....are all BELTWAY Republicans. Folks from the Northeast who do not have a clue what being conservative means.

Toss Laura Ingraham into that mix. They has a bit of the Oreilly factor in her. Too many times, she advocates ideas...that are not conservative.


30 posted on 09/17/2005 9:42:32 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: Txsleuth

Why not..

They had no problems getting buses out to drive people to voting boxes. Even when they were not legal voters. Just as long as they voted for Sen Mary (the b-tch) L. and her family and other dems.

But if a storm comes....oh...well....let 'em swim, I guess.


31 posted on 09/17/2005 9:46:09 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: thinkingman129

they were able to walk far enough to 'loot' the shoe stoe on canal street with plenty of cops looking on (had shotguns)--I heard that it was considered "inevitable" and they were there to keep anyone from getting hurt---does hurt some toting bags of shoes, etc. if you don't have a stolen shopping cart--the "Big Easy", easy to steal with the cops looking on or ignoring you-


32 posted on 09/17/2005 9:53:26 PM PDT by cmotormac44
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To: thinkingman129

Exits still open to adjacent parishes were blocked by Louisiana law enforcement. People who wanted to walk out couldn't leave.


33 posted on 09/18/2005 12:27:03 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Txsleuth
I thought the feds took over

Not true. Blanco has never signed control over to the Feds. That is why regular military are still barred from law enforcement duties.

34 posted on 09/18/2005 12:33:01 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: thinkingman129

Believe me all these people have no problem diving for beads along the many parade routes. If you've ever been to one of these you know it's a near riot.
As far as trashing to Dome and Convention Center I kind of thought that was quite normal for New Orleans. The city is usually a trash heap anyway. I lived there so I believe I can say this with authority.


35 posted on 09/18/2005 4:16:15 AM PDT by Recon Dad (The Hallmark JDAM - "For those who want to send only the very best")
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To: Miss Marple

Do you honestly believe that? Or was it hype?
I find it extremely hard to believe that law enforcement would block the citizens' exit.


36 posted on 09/18/2005 7:10:53 AM PDT by thinkingman129 (questioning clears the way to understanding.)
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To: Recon Dad

What do you make of Miss Marpels' statement, #35, that law enforcement blocked their exits?

I find that so hard to believe.

Can't help but think these people only walked for things they wanted. No doubt they had shopping carts near their homes to use as walkers, too, if they really needed to. IF their exiting was blocked, it was probably to block them from leaving with looted items! I can understand that: You can't leave with JUNK, we're not going to allow you to enter this area with unneccessary items...


37 posted on 09/18/2005 7:13:31 AM PDT by thinkingman129 (questioning clears the way to understanding.)
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To: thinkingman129
I think what they are referring to is those people that walked across the bridge to Gretna and were turned back by the Gretna police. Heartless, I don't know, but they were worried that the entire city would show up on the West Bank and overwhelm them. You can't leave the area by going across this bridge, but is was dry.
38 posted on 09/18/2005 8:24:44 AM PDT by Recon Dad (The Hallmark JDAM - "For those who want to send only the very best")
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To: thinkingman129
I am not saying that ALL exits were blocked. I do know that one adjacent parish has admitted that they kept people from entering, both before and after the storm. I believe there was another parish as well.

Are you unaware of this? There were at least two articles posted on FR concerning this.

39 posted on 09/18/2005 9:38:06 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Miss Marple

Unfortunately, I haven't had the time to read every article posted on FR, nor have I heard every dialogue on every station, radio or television.

Your post indicated that people who tried to leave were blocked by law enforcement. The way I read your statement was that no one had any hope. Now you say one adjacent parish, maybe another. Do you see the difference?

And, if there was a different way out, maybe it was in the people's best interest to go out the other way. My frustration isn't as much with you as it is with the entire reporting, and our (nation-wide) gullibility. We hear one thing, and while there may be truth in it, it may be distorted, or there may be the "rest of the story" that may indicate something entirely different. Cause and effect is invalid if all the causes are not evaluated.


40 posted on 09/18/2005 4:50:02 PM PDT by thinkingman129 (questioning clears the way to understanding.)
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