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Knights of Columbus vow to appeal Pledge of Allegiance ruling
Catholic News Agency ^ | September 16, 2005

Posted on 09/17/2005 7:02:23 AM PDT by NYer

New Haven, Sep. 16, 2005 (CNA) - The national office of the Knights of Columbus has announced that the group plans to immediately appeal a decision, given earlier this week by a California judge, that the words “under God” render the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional.

The Knights were among the defendants in the case of Newdow vs. Congress of the United States, et al--the decision of which has angered religious groups nationwide.

District Judge Lawrence Karlton said in his Wednesday decision that the phrase violates a student’s right to be ``free from a coercive requirement to affirm God.''

The ruling effects three school districts in Sacramento county, California.

Supreme Knight Carl A. Anderson said that "if freedom of religion in America means anything at all, it means that it's just as constitutional to recite the Pledge of Allegiance – complete with the words 'under God' – as it is to read aloud the Declaration of Independence.”

He said that, “They both express the same truth: that our fundamental rights come from God, our creator, and not from government. To suggest that the language of the First Amendment prohibits the simple statement of that truth is to stand the Constitution on its head."

The Knights of Columbus say that they were instrumental in persuading congress to insert the words, “under God” into the pledge in 1954. Their request to be defendants in the Newdow case this year was granted by the court.

The 1.7 million member Knights of Columbus are being represented in the case by The Becket Fund for Religious Liberty.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Connecticut
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1 posted on 09/17/2005 7:02:23 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 09/17/2005 7:03:57 AM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

This judge has to go.


3 posted on 09/17/2005 7:08:52 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub.)
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To: NYer

"The Knights of Columbus say that they were instrumental in persuading congress to insert the words, “under God” into the pledge in 1954. Their request to be defendants in the Newdow case this year was granted by the court."

Excellent news. Glad to hear it. Can non-Catholics be on your ping list? Do you accept boring, lutefisk eating, potluck supper holding Lutherans? If so, please add me. Thanks! :)


4 posted on 09/17/2005 7:11:33 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: NYer

Someone should tell the non believers that if they do not want to recite the pledge of allegiance, they do not have to. But for those of us who want to, do it! If the non believers do not believe in God, why are they so afraid of him?


5 posted on 09/17/2005 7:14:01 AM PDT by navygal (Numbers 6:24-26)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

>>Do you accept boring, lutefisk eating, potluck supper holding Lutherans? If so, please add me. Thanks! :)<<


LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!


6 posted on 09/17/2005 7:14:54 AM PDT by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I too am a non catholic, but have learned alot from these pings


7 posted on 09/17/2005 7:16:33 AM PDT by navygal (Numbers 6:24-26)
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To: NYer
Looks like freedom of speech applies only to RAT porn, filth or whatever they wish to spew. God is the big thorn in the devil worshipers butt.
8 posted on 09/17/2005 7:27:57 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeePeee!)
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To: NYer

Our Pledge of Allegiance has never been a prayer, does not promote prayer, and does not promote religion. If the pledge were read as "one nation under ______ (insert the name of the god of your religion)" that would promote religion and I'd have a very big problem with that.

I pity Newdow and those who would remove "under God" from our pledge.


9 posted on 09/17/2005 7:28:05 AM PDT by tob2 (Old Fossil and Proud of It!)
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To: NYer
Every year we have a 4th of July parade.

And every year the Knights of Columbus march by. They have heavy wool outifts on. They are wearing capes, they have swords.

And every year, it's 90+ degrees. It's hot, very very hot.

And as they march by, they don't sweat. Not a drop.

10 posted on 09/17/2005 7:30:43 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (If fire fighters fight fire and crime fighters fight crime what do freedom fighters fight?)
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To: isthisnickcool
They are wearing capes, they have swords.

Any friend of Zorro's is a friend of mine.

11 posted on 09/17/2005 7:31:44 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: tob2
I pity Newdow and those who would remove "under God" from our pledge.

Next up .... the currency. Removing the words "In God We Trust" from US currency, has been in the works for quite some time. Now, more than ever, we need John Roberts on SCOTUS.

12 posted on 09/17/2005 7:39:24 AM PDT by NYer
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Good for the Knights of Columbus! They are a GREAT organization. God Bless everyone who is standing up for what is right.


13 posted on 09/17/2005 7:42:13 AM PDT by PatriotGirl827 (God Bless America and Our Troops !)
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To: isthisnickcool; All
Have you considered joining?

Why Join

14 posted on 09/17/2005 7:46:47 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Frank Sheed; All

The Knights of Columbus, which is among the defendants in Newdow v. Congress of the United States, et al., will immediately appeal Wednesday's decision by U.S. District Court Judge Lawrence Karlton, holding that reciting the Pledge of Allegiance in school is unconstitutional.

15 posted on 09/17/2005 7:48:35 AM PDT by NYer
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This world desperately needs more knights.


16 posted on 09/17/2005 8:01:13 AM PDT by teawithmisswilliams (Question Diversity)
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To: NYer

Vivat!


17 posted on 09/17/2005 8:16:08 AM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN - 3rd Bn. Fifth Marines RVN 1969)
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To: isthisnickcool

Those Knights are called Fourth Degree....my father was one. They were tuxedo's under their cape also.


18 posted on 09/17/2005 8:23:49 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: NYer

Is there a female counterpart to the great Knights of Columbus?


19 posted on 09/17/2005 8:25:09 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: NYer
'Under God' was inserted into the Pledge so that NATURAL law would always been superior to POSITIVE law, just as the Founders had written-

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[T]he laws of nature . . . of course presupposes the existence of a God, the moral ruler of the universe, and a rule of right and wrong, of just and unjust, binding upon man, preceding all institutions of human society and government.

John Quincy Adams

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The law of nature, “which, being coeval with mankind and dictated by God Himself, is, of course, superior in obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all countries, and at all times. No human laws are of any validity, if contrary to this.”

Alexander Hamilton, Signer of the Constitution

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The “law of nature” is a rule of conduct arising out of the natural relations of human beings established by the Creator and existing prior to any positive precept. . . . [These] have been established by the Creator, and are, with a peculiar felicity of expression, denominated in Scripture, “ordinances of heaven.”

Noah Webster, Judge and Legislator

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Natural rights [are] the objects for the protection of which society is formed and municipal laws established.
Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Monroe, 1791

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I consider the war of America against Britain as the country's war, the public's war, or the war of the people in their own behalf, for the security of their natural rights, and the protection of their own property.
Thomas Paine, On Financing the War, 1782 ________________________________________________________

The Christian religion does NOT force anyone to BE Christian....it PROTECTS the People from an overreaching government by being the primary source of law!

20 posted on 09/17/2005 8:39:44 AM PDT by MamaTexan ( I am not a *legal entity*, nor am I a ~person~ as created by law.)
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