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Woman in power is powerless when it comes to meeting men
http://www.mcall.com/ ^ | September 17, 2005 | Amy Alkon

Posted on 09/17/2005 6:59:48 AM PDT by teldon30

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To: Age of Reason
Without a marriage license, the man should have no say over and no obligation to any child that reasults.

If women have the "right to choose", men should also. Upon formal notification that he's about to become a father, an unmarried man should be able to make a decision as to whether he will support the child, having at least a few weeks to think about it. The woman can make her own decision from there. (Marriage would be considered an explicit "yes" decision)

And no man would be forced to pay support for a child not biologically his, except if he formally accepts the child in full knowledge he's not the biological father

1,121 posted on 09/18/2005 6:53:10 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
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To: MrNatural

Thanks for your understanding.


1,122 posted on 09/18/2005 6:53:14 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Well, I appreciate the reference; however I am no longer tied up in the workplace where My previous experiences have occurred. I am now working on My own potential startup (to be sold at the earliest opportunity) and trying out My meagre skills as a Writer as well.


1,123 posted on 09/18/2005 6:54:36 PM PDT by Utilizer (What does not kill you... - can sometimes damage you QUITE severely.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

grand solution for any guy: keep your zipper up until you are married.


1,124 posted on 09/18/2005 6:54:45 PM PDT by fqued (radiation comb-over)
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To: everyone

Men of real quality don't want weak or overly dependent women. However, they don't want to feel inferior, either.

This probably excludes within-the-office romance between
a high-ranking woman and a lower-ranking man. But the high-ranking woman need not act high-ranking outside of work and those she works with.

The article is basically correct, in other words, but the solution isn't hard to figure out.


1,125 posted on 09/18/2005 6:59:04 PM PDT by California Patriot
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To: SauronOfMordor

All good points, but there is no incentive for women to support them, as we males are guaranteed cash cows for them with the current status quo. And that is AFTER they take a look at your paycheck!


1,126 posted on 09/18/2005 7:05:04 PM PDT by Utilizer (What does not kill you... - can sometimes damage you QUITE severely.)
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To: marajade
...Thanks for your understanding...

Been there and done it. That's how it has to work.

1,127 posted on 09/18/2005 7:06:13 PM PDT by MrNatural ("...You want the truth!?...")
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To: Utilizer

"I am recently released from the hospital as well where they inform Me they almost lost Me on the table."

Glad you made it through. Probably gave you a greater appreciation of each day.


1,128 posted on 09/18/2005 7:08:07 PM PDT by fqued (radiation comb-over)
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To: Utilizer

again, there would be no problem if the guy exercised self-control. He made the choice to have sex with a woman to whom he wasn't married, knowing the risks. If he kept his zipper up until he was married, there would be no problem.


1,129 posted on 09/18/2005 7:12:11 PM PDT by fqued (radiation comb-over)
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To: Mr. Jeeves; papertyger
Neither one [qualifying a guy by his income/qualifying a woman by the size of her "rack."] is shallow

Agreed.

Qualifying a prospective mate by looks, for example, is evolutionary shorthand for genetic quality and health.

What appears beautiful to us is that which reflects performance, so it is not superficial.

Humans are bidpedal: hence buttock muscles and structure are very important.

And hence the sexual interest of both sexes in buttocks.

Broad shoulders in a man help him to wield weapons, hence a woman's attraction for broad shoulders.

Long legs in a woman help her to flee danger.

Hence the attraction for long legs.

However our inborn conceptions of beauty can be modified by other inborn tendencies and by experience.

One such inborn tendency is to want what others want, as such a mate would likely generate offspring that would be wanted in turn, thereby helping to pass your genes along.

An example of choice modified by experience would be the association of a certain physical appearance with a painful memory.

Despite what subversives tell us, men and women are different, and so men and women place different emphasis on looks and other things.

For example, a woman's interest in a man may not have to do with his genetic contribution, as she may be interested in him primarily as a protector and provider for her existing offspring or of those she hopes to have by the handsome milkman or married millionaire boyfriend--

And so she will be less interested in her husband's looks and more interested in his wallet and/or social standing.

This all gets complex, and so I'll leave futher discussion for another day.

1,130 posted on 09/18/2005 7:13:45 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: fqued
.. hospital inform(s) Me they almost lost Me on the table ..

Sounds like hard times, partner; glad you made it ..

1,131 posted on 09/18/2005 7:17:23 PM PDT by MrNatural ("...You want the truth!?...")
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To: fqued

Still pretty weak and in a lot of pain. My girlfriend helps a lot but really all she can do is support Me as much as she can. What with her studio taking up a lot of time I am spending a lot of time in turn in front of the computer, but she should be home soon and hopefully not too tired to make dinner. We can always order a pizza, of course, but she says she likes to cook for Me and I can not stand up for very long. I did not choose to place this burden upon her but I am thankful that she is so uncomplaining and supportive. Can't wait until I can get back to cooking for HER, however. Lol. Not all the time, in fact we both tend to prefer premade meals or easily conconcted ones, but I would like to thank her for everything and there are a couple of specialized dishes that she says she loves. Both of our families are from out of the area so it is nice to have someone there that can be relied upon.


1,132 posted on 09/18/2005 7:17:36 PM PDT by Utilizer (What does not kill you... - can sometimes damage you QUITE severely.)
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To: MrNatural

Thank you.


1,133 posted on 09/18/2005 7:20:04 PM PDT by Utilizer (What does not kill you... - can sometimes damage you QUITE severely.)
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To: Utilizer
.. hospital inform(s) Me they almost lost Me on the table ..

Sounds like hard times, partner; glad you made it ..

1,134 posted on 09/18/2005 7:21:19 PM PDT by MrNatural ("...You want the truth!?...")
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To: Utilizer

by the way, if you can get your doctor to prescribe oxycontin / oxycodone for the pain, do so, it is a super pain-killer. I used it for about half a year.


1,135 posted on 09/18/2005 7:22:22 PM PDT by fqued (radiation comb-over)
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To: MrNatural; Utilizer
Apologies for the address mix-up on the last post.
1,136 posted on 09/18/2005 7:23:29 PM PDT by MrNatural ("...You want the truth!?...")
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To: Utilizer

Your girlfriend sounds like a keeper--a real angel.


1,137 posted on 09/18/2005 7:24:59 PM PDT by fqued (radiation comb-over)
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To: fqued

Yes, she is quite a sweetheart. She does pretty good for herself with her photo and graphic design studio and designing some websites for some fairly well-known rock bands. Seems to have her head on her shoulders. Kids are grown up now so there is time for both of us, but we are not making any definite plans yet until we have spent more time getting to know each other, and this sudden illness has not helped there. We can survive on what I bring in, but she really seems to like the business she is in now and seems contented with the direction it is going. Plus, we never got into financial discussions from the outset. She is much more intuitive than I am although she does admit that I still surprise her from time to time, but she tells Me always that My mind is what most fascinates her, lol. I am merely taking things one day at a time for now, as I tire quite easily and the doctors insist that I do not exert Myself for some time yet.


1,138 posted on 09/18/2005 7:34:15 PM PDT by Utilizer (What does not kill you... - can sometimes damage you QUITE severely.)
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To: MrNatural

No worries, mate.


1,139 posted on 09/18/2005 7:35:41 PM PDT by Utilizer (What does not kill you... - can sometimes damage you QUITE severely.)
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To: Age of Reason
Long legs in a woman help her to flee danger. Hence the attraction for long legs.

Exactly what I was thinking the other afternoon in the subway. "Boy, if me and her are ever walking in the woods and a bear pops out from behind a tree, that girl is going to run FAST. Smack my broad weapon-bearing shoulders if I don't get her number...."

1,140 posted on 09/18/2005 8:02:27 PM PDT by SpringheelJack
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