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Woman in power is powerless when it comes to meeting men
http://www.mcall.com/ ^ | September 17, 2005 | Amy Alkon

Posted on 09/17/2005 6:59:48 AM PDT by teldon30

Dear Amy: I'd like to be in a relationship again, but I never even get asked out (unless you count frisky 85-year-olds and drunks at the corner bar). I'm a 32-year-old woman who's happy, sociable, and attractive. (I paid for college by modeling and continue to take care of myself.) I'm second-in-command at a big company, financially secure, and own a beautiful home. How can I meet men in general, and more specifically, men I'd actually want to date?

Deluxe Chopped Liver

Dear Deluxe: To scare away vampires, it takes garlic and crosses, which make ugly bulges in sleek, satin evening bags. Luckily, all you have to do to scare away men is pull out a business card that says ''senior vice president.''

''Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac,'' said Henry Kissinger. Sure it is — unless you're a woman. Research by Stephanie L. Brown and Brian P. Lewis, published in Evolution and Human Behavior (Nov. '04), seems to confirm what many lonely women at the top already know: When guys go for the woman in the boardroom, it isn't the woman running the meeting but the secretary who wheeled in the coffee and croissants before it started.

Sure, plenty of men will scamper up the corporate ladder for a one-night stand. But, according to Brown and Lewis' study, men looking for dates or relationships tend to prefer their subordinates to their colleagues or bosses. The researchers hypothesize that men evolved to want women they can control as a means of guarding against ''parental uncertainty'' — unwittingly raising kids fathered by the Neanderthal next door as their own. Brown and Lewis think this may also explain why men are suckers for ''behavioral expressions of vulnerability'' — women who act like they might not be able to make it across the street

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To: papertyger
I dare say her highness refuses to entertain the preposterous notion she has been rejected...at least insofar as you haven't made it explicit to her, anyway.

Or she's just hopeful, which makes her see only the positive things and not the rest. Utilizer could stop all this by just being straight with her. His subtle hints obviously aren't as good hints as he thinks they are.

1,001 posted on 09/18/2005 4:24:44 PM PDT by SpringheelJack
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To: marajade
I will agree that SOME women do. However, I think you will of necessity need to travel a substantial distance indeed before you can capture the attentions of any male with an IQ higher than room temperature that will appreciate understanding that you value him for his wallet. I would prefer to believe that you in turn would feel insulted if you knew a male was evaluating you for the contents of your purse.

However, there is a distinct possibility that I am incorrect in that assessment.

1,002 posted on 09/18/2005 4:27:09 PM PDT by Utilizer (What does not kill you... - can sometimes damage you QUITE severely.)
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To: Utilizer

Feeling protected is also included as a part of security. Its not just about money.

I had a choice between marrying a man who made $200 a month in income and another who made over $2,000. Come on, at some point a woman does think about how a man can provide for her and their children.


1,003 posted on 09/18/2005 4:30:30 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: papertyger

Well, women are SUPPOSED to be masters of the 'hint'. I am attempting not to be deliberately rude but shouldn't she be getting a clue by now that I am NOT interested without rubbing her face in it?


1,004 posted on 09/18/2005 4:31:00 PM PDT by Utilizer (What does not kill you... - can sometimes damage you QUITE severely.)
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To: SpringheelJack
Utilizer could stop all this by just being straight with her.

If I'm reading this guy correctly, that's a 50/50 proposition, at best.

"Just hopeful" is simply another way of saying precisely what I said, but saying it in a way that gives her credit he's clearly demonstrated she doesn't deserve.

I'd be willing to bet if he was explicit with her, she'd try to talk her way around it.

1,005 posted on 09/18/2005 4:34:42 PM PDT by papertyger ("ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge" ... Charles Darwin)
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To: SpringheelJack

Bloody 'ell; I am not a female. I am just not as good at subtle hints as they are. But come on; it's been almost a year since we first started seeing each other and almost eight months continually that she has been attempting to communicate with Me. Give us a break here. I KNOW she is not as unintelligent as some I have met in the past.


1,006 posted on 09/18/2005 4:35:02 PM PDT by Utilizer (What does not kill you... - can sometimes damage you QUITE severely.)
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To: Utilizer

Thank you. I know that by God, there are many more out there like her :)


1,007 posted on 09/18/2005 4:35:57 PM PDT by gamarob1 (.)
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To: marajade
I had a choice between marrying a man who made $200 a month in income and another who made over $2,000. Come on, at some point a woman does think about how a man can provide for her and their children.

Are you familiar with the joke about the old millionaire propositioning the ravishing young thing at the dinner party?

1,008 posted on 09/18/2005 4:38:37 PM PDT by papertyger ("ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge" ... Charles Darwin)
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To: Utilizer
Oddly enough,I found myself in "hot water" some years ago for rejecting the advances of two different women at work. I was single and a steady worker. Woman no 1 was in process of divorcing for the third time,had an unwed pregnant daughter at home,a son going to the military to avoid local lawmen,and her youngest met us at the curb carrying a full-size hunting knife.He was maybe 8?!I was taking her home from work because she had car trouble and chose to wait hours so that I would be the one to drive her all of maybe 5 miles. I declined her invitation to come inside and sped home. From then on she made sure to point out any failure of mine to higher supervision. Woman #2 was unhappily married to a businessman and had a biracial daughter with baby sans husband at home. She threw a crying fit when I used a newspaper rather than my hand to brush off the bee?wasp? that just happened to land on her inner thigh. Call me coward but at that time I wasn't interested in a job as baggage handler. But her crying convinced supervision I must have done "something".

Some days you can't win.

1,009 posted on 09/18/2005 4:39:48 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: papertyger

No, I am not.


1,010 posted on 09/18/2005 4:41:13 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: papertyger
Just hopeful" is simply another way of saying precisely what I said, but saying it in a way that gives her credit he's clearly demonstrated she doesn't deserve.

I don't know. In these he said/she said sort of things, I take it with a grain of salt that one person could "clearly demonstrate" anything about the other. The impression I get is that he's confusing her, so maybe he ought to be a little more explicit. I think it might demand too much to ask someone to decipher your "clues". If she still won't talk no for an answer, then I don't think you need to be confused about her either.

1,011 posted on 09/18/2005 4:44:32 PM PDT by SpringheelJack
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To: Utilizer
Well, women are SUPPOSED to be masters of the 'hint'.

The only thing I've found women are masters of is "heads, I win. tails, you lose."

If your forced you rub her face in it, I promise you, she'll label you a "bastard" for doing what she pushed you into.

1,012 posted on 09/18/2005 4:44:48 PM PDT by papertyger ("ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge" ... Charles Darwin)
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To: marajade
I had a choice between marrying a man who made $200 a month in income and another who made over $2,000.

So in other words if the first male had suddenly come to you with 5,000 per month your choice would have been different? How about 10,000? Or, 3000? 2500? I know you are probably going to be offended by this but I can not help it; I do not think I am the only one who understands specifically where you stand. If those are your standards, then I do not think I can effectively make you understand how much a piece of meat that makes a male feel like. The higher-priced beefstock is the choice cut. Got you. If I were a husband reading such comments I can tell you right now that I would be making alternative plans for the future as quickly as possible and reconsidering whether I could in actuality turn down that higher-pressure (more pay) position at work. I might not get a comfortable reception at the end of the day. And we males are the problem? Guess I really need to find a higher paying job as quickly as possible or I am doomed to remain celibate and unattached for the rest of My life.

1,013 posted on 09/18/2005 4:46:57 PM PDT by Utilizer (What does not kill you... - can sometimes damage you QUITE severely.)
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To: Utilizer

Hey, you know the story better than I do. All that I'd point out is that your tactic isn't accomplishing what you thought it would, so maybe you better try something different.


1,014 posted on 09/18/2005 4:48:43 PM PDT by SpringheelJack
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To: Utilizer

No, probably not. You are totally fixated on the financial and are projecting it onto women.


1,015 posted on 09/18/2005 4:48:57 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: teldon30
This 32 year power gal has less chance of having a happy marraige and normal family than she does of being struck by lightening.

I mean this literally.

These career women make horrific wives and mothers. So it is just as well that they are kept out of the gene pool.

1,016 posted on 09/18/2005 4:49:26 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: marajade
I had a choice between marrying a man who made $200 a month in income and another who made over $2,000. Come on, at some point a woman does think about how a man can provide for her and their children.

and justifiably so. I do not understand why anyone would think that income isn't a consideration in a marriage (notice I said A consideration). Amusingly enough, I was unemployed at the time I proposed to my wife of 29 years. Clearly she did not marry me for my money.
1,017 posted on 09/18/2005 4:49:31 PM PDT by fqued
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To: papertyger
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires.

Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. Galatians 5:22-25
1,018 posted on 09/18/2005 4:51:18 PM PDT by jer33 3
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To: Utilizer

see my post 1017


1,019 posted on 09/18/2005 4:52:12 PM PDT by fqued
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To: fqued

I can't believe I'm being faulted for actually considering how many babies I can pop out and if I can afford all of them.


1,020 posted on 09/18/2005 4:52:41 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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