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Socialism on the March
Human Events Online ^ | September 15, 2005 | Chris Field

Posted on 09/16/2005 7:36:31 AM PDT by hinterlander

President Bush has just concluded his obligatory speech from New Orleans to tell us how we're all going to be heavily involved and invested in the rebuilding of the Crescent City.

Let's take a quick look at his laundry list -- a list for which he neglected to name a price tag.

• The federal government will "do what it takes" and will "stay as long as it takes" -- great, just what I wanted to hear.

• States will be reimbursed for their efforts in responding to Katrina. Does that include states like North Dakota, Wisconsin, Minnesota, or Montana where some of the victims/refugees might have gone?

• Contrary to the strong suggestions of Jack Kemp, there will be no attempt to employ the idea of capitalism and free enterprise in this "recovery."

• The Katrina aftermath proved to be a massive failure of government. So, Bush and his men think that the correct response to major federal government mess-ups is what -- more federal government?

• He, of course, had to pander to the Left and note that "poverty has its roots in racial discrimination." What a load of malarkey. Poverty has its roots in the current welfare state -- which is exactly what Bush is proposing.

How much is this thing going to cost? Who knows! Could be $200 billion or more.

Who's going to pay for it? You are. I am.

Forget about making the tax cuts permanent. You know, the tax cuts that turned the economy around, pulling us out of a recession.

Want AMT relief? Too bad.

Want to get rid of the Death Tax? Not likely.

Sounds a lot like Marx to me: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

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To: syriacus
I think Bush's announcement of this plan makes sure that the Left has less control over the money and the post-disaster activities than they would have had.





I am referring less to who has control of the purse strings than I am the direction of the ideological debate over the role of government. If the "right" accepts the premise of expanding the federal government's role, it matters little who controls the purse strings. The question is which direction are we headed in respect to what we see as the role of the federal government. Besides not proposing any spending cuts to offset the emergency spending, President Bush acknowledged that the failure was largely a federal failure and made little mention of the local responsibility. In addition, he pointed to an expanded future role for the feds in this area. In doing so, he handed the left and ideological and rhetorical victory.
41 posted on 09/16/2005 9:40:36 AM PDT by rob777
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To: oblomov

Have we heard if Bush has asked Powell to be in charge of this "War on Katrina"?


42 posted on 09/16/2005 9:52:17 AM PDT by syriacus (To stay in power, Democrats need a MSM willing to lie about people + events + the constitution)
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To: rob777
In doing so, he handed the left and ideological and rhetorical victory.

We shall see. We shall see.

Bush played Rugby very well, I hear. In rugby, you don't pass the ball toward your goal. Passing is only done in the direction opposite to your goal.

He hasn't "handed" the Left anything more than he feels they deserve or is necessary..

43 posted on 09/16/2005 10:01:16 AM PDT by syriacus (To stay in power, Democrats need a MSM willing to lie about people + events + the constitution)
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To: rob777
he pointed to an expanded future role for the feds in this area

There will need to be a public "debate" on whether the Fed. gov't (military) can step in without express permission of the state.

The debate will be a good one -- in which Blanco's failures will become apparent, even if no one names names.

44 posted on 09/16/2005 10:04:14 AM PDT by syriacus (To stay in power, Democrats need a MSM willing to lie about people + events + the constitution)
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To: syriacus

Hundreds of billions in pork construction, and the new Medicare drug entitlement program if necessary.

This orgy of spending has to stop.


45 posted on 09/16/2005 10:07:19 AM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam (check out www.prophetofdoom.net))
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To: tomahawk
Hundreds of billions in pork construction, and the new Medicare drug entitlement program if necessary. This orgy of spending has to stop.

Run for office. Write your congressman. Vote Bush's buddies out of office.

46 posted on 09/16/2005 10:10:02 AM PDT by syriacus (To stay in power, Democrats need a MSM willing to lie about people + events + the constitution)
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To: syriacus
There will need to be a public "debate" on whether the Fed. gov't (military) can step in without express permission of the state.

We can guess the conservative position on the issue of Feds taking over state functions. They'd rather see the Feds refrain.

It will be most interesting to see what the libs say. I hope someone asks Hillary point-blank.

My brother (a "super-duper" liberal) was criticising the Feds for not stepping in, right away, to take the "disaster response" reins out of Blanco's hands.

I'm anxious to see how much he really likes the idea of Fed intervention, now that the Libs have opened this Pandora's box.

47 posted on 09/16/2005 10:17:20 AM PDT by syriacus (To stay in power, Democrats need a MSM willing to lie about people + events + the constitution)
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To: Rennes Templar
"Care-taking role..not socialism." Relief in the form of lifesaving, rescue, access etc, I'd agree could be called a gov't function. But care-taking? Check your feet, fella, 'cause you are on the precipice.
48 posted on 09/16/2005 10:27:08 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: syriacus

The federal debt (including unfunded liabilities for future Social Security and Medicare) is currently over $40 trillion, or $133,000 for every man woman and child in this country.

My Congressman (Duncan) is one of the few fiscal conservatives left.


49 posted on 09/16/2005 10:36:56 AM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam (check out www.prophetofdoom.net))
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To: hinterlander
• He, of course, had to pander to the Left and note that "poverty has its roots in racial discrimination." What a load of malarkey. Poverty has its roots in the current welfare state -- which is exactly what Bush is proposing

Poverty has its roots in corrupt politicians promising the world and never delivering, lining their pockets, and always, ALWAYS sucessfully blaming it on the Republicans.

The root cause of poverty is poor education, and the root cause of poor education is the socialist Teachers Unions. The Teachers Unions need to be BUSTED and we need a President with big COJONES like REAGAN who was willing to stand up and BUST a union when he deemed it necessary to the public good.

50 posted on 09/16/2005 10:42:21 AM PDT by johnb838 (Logic and reason are tools of the white oppressor.)
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To: diogenes ghost

Parsing words. I consider rescue, lifesaving etc. to involve some degree of care. I was using a catch-all term. Checked feet, see no precipice.


51 posted on 09/16/2005 10:50:50 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: John Robertson

One thing I thought I heard was that this was going to be handled like the TVA. That there is SO MUCH work that needs to be done and these locals are going to get the jobs. Course that won't work for those who WILL NOT work, but I trust that that is a vocal minority.

I also thought I heard him say we're going to raise up parts of the city. If big swaths have to be demolished, and it sounds like they will, why not simply bury them and turn them into hills with land fill. Raise that city up it used to be higher, it sank. It's a perfect opportunity to fix it.

And I think that's the President's point. This is a tragedy, but within the tragedy is an opportunity to fix problems that have been handed down from generation unto generation for almost 150 years. He is bold enough to seize on it. I have my doubts too, but I have to commend him for that.


52 posted on 09/16/2005 10:58:07 AM PDT by johnb838 (Logic and reason are tools of the white oppressor.)
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To: tomahawk
We need to cut back spending in other areas if we're going to fund this effort $200,000,000,000.

But if any one thinks that the cuts will come from entitlements or other direct transfers to individuals, they best think again. The only other sizable pot is the military budget. Yeah, lets cut that, while we have thousands of crazies out there wanting to kill Americans, and while the only really effective relief efforts were provided by the military (including the National Guard and Coast Guard) and private organizations such as the Red Cross and Salvation Army. You could probably squeeze a few dollars of pork out of the federal highway budget, and the budget for other federal works, if the local CongressCritters will let you, which again is doubtfull

53 posted on 09/16/2005 10:59:16 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: rob777

This government has grown SO FAST since Reagan left office. It's like he was the boy with his finger in the dyke.


54 posted on 09/16/2005 11:10:27 AM PDT by johnb838 (Logic and reason are tools of the white oppressor.)
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To: syriacus
I know I felt sympathy for the folks in Florida who have not gotten this kind of help.

Amen. Think they'll even be able to get the building supplies they need to finish rebuilding their homes?

55 posted on 09/16/2005 11:11:20 AM PDT by johnb838 (Logic and reason are tools of the white oppressor.)
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To: oblomov

I liked when he said "Congress has provided $60 billion dollars". Someone said, where did Congress get 60 billion dollars?


56 posted on 09/16/2005 11:12:35 AM PDT by johnb838 (Logic and reason are tools of the white oppressor.)
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To: Rennes Templar
Post-modern People: do not take common sense care of themselves (e.g. buy proper insurance, don't live in dangerous flooding areas, timely evacuation when facing angry Mother Nature, et al.) and take the well known risks (living on the beaches, flood planes, hill sides, et al,) benefitting through the $y$tem of serial $ub$idie$ of our $ociali$m.

People (the hardworking ants), who select their homestead site wisely, buy market rate insurances (take a dam hint about risk if you can't find or afford insurance), save to build their cash reserves for just such callamities, are then punished by governments by having even more of their property/income taxed to support the grasshoppers of our society.

There are always the unlucky which our generous society has always reached out to, except our taxpayers are now the primary insurance/welfare Nanny for all, including the people who function and profit by living recklessly. Just as "First Responders" must be your own self, one's own families and neighbors because residents outnumber the "government" thousands to one. When $!it happens, we're on our own, for up to a week or month, or if the Qaedas nukes ignite, a year or more. There is no Plantation Fairy to carry us all to Neverland Ranch. OOPs, bad example.

People now live en mass where they shouldn't - if they had to bear the true costs of their lifestyle site selection; we'll see in time that millions have concentrated where common sense, supported by field research, tells rational people that known risks are overwhelming. The re-insurance industry with its international money shall redefine insurability. The sheeple are childish in the extreme. They demand that others susidize their life styles.

57 posted on 09/16/2005 11:43:29 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: tomahawk

Interesting facts...thanks.


58 posted on 09/16/2005 11:52:33 AM PDT by syriacus (To stay in power, Democrats need a MSM willing to lie about people + events + the constitution)
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To: johnb838
Think they'll even be able to get the building supplies they need to finish rebuilding their homes?

Good question.

59 posted on 09/16/2005 11:56:09 AM PDT by syriacus (To stay in power, Democrats need a MSM willing to lie about people + events + the constitution)
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To: hinterlander
Poverty has its roots in the current welfare state

What a perfectly pithy statement and thank you for it! What I found fascinating about his speech was this statement:"...It is entrepreneurship that creates jobs and opportunity; it is entrepreneurship that helps break the cycle of poverty..." Now that sounds nice and good and I'm all for helping our fellow citizens, but I have to ask, (someone has to) just how do you change the mindset of people who've been taught "The gov't owes me a living" their whole life? That is another unenviable task before us.

60 posted on 09/16/2005 2:04:47 PM PDT by Pagey (a)
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